Prairie Pal
Senior Member
Has anyone tried the upgrade to PSP3? Has the extremely slow performance improved at all? The release text says it has.
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Paint Shop Pro 3 performance
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KEITH-C
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Don't get the joke ?
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Prairie Pal
Senior Member
No joking intended. I have PSP2, but never use it because it's extremely quirky and slow. Today I got an email from Corel advertising the upgrade to PSP3, with "improved performance". So I was just wondering if anyone has tried it to find out if Corel finally realized what a clunker the older versions were.
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John Szeto
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Are you still using PSP3 on your Windows 3.0 computer? I had PSP4 about 15 years ago and it was good for it's time. Modernize and try PSP13.............
canuck dave
Senior Member
I suspect he's referring to PSP X3!
I had about given up on PSP (after about 15 years, many versions) until I upgraded from Win XP to Win 7.
No glitches at all. PSP is wayyyyyy better than PSE and about as good as Photoshop/CS for the vast majority of photographers.
I had about given up on PSP (after about 15 years, many versions) until I upgraded from Win XP to Win 7.
No glitches at all. PSP is wayyyyyy better than PSE and about as good as Photoshop/CS for the vast majority of photographers.
PSPX2 works just fine on my computer. X3 is just too big and if anything is actually slower on my computer. I will stay with X2. I guess I can't expect it to match a $700 program (PSCS5) for $79. For raw files I never bother with it, I use LR for raws and file managment and PSP for plug-ins and layer work etc. PSPX2 does what I need for now and seems plenty fast to me with 12mp camera files.
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Ron J
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Prairie Pal
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Running in Windows 7 and 8GB Ram on a quad core machine.
I like some of the features in PSP X2, but I abaondoned it because it runs just sooooo slow.
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with only 3 GB ram.
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dwalby
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I have both X2 and X3, mainly because they were free after rebate from Fry's. They just offered it again a couple weeks ago, keep an eye out for it and next time get it for free and you have nothing to lose.
I still use older versions of PS primarily (CS and CS2), but have a lot of respect for PSP and use it occasionally. I did notice some speed improvement between X2 and X3, but nothing earth-shattering. I run on a pretty basic dual-core 2GB RAM system and rarely shoot RAW, so I'm not a heavy CPU user.
Our platforms are totally different, and its quite possible Adobe has exploited the quad core much better than Corel in recent versions. If that's the case then I can't compare that for you. FWIW, I've noticed PS running faster in general, but not all that dramatically different from either version of PSP. Maybe I haven't used it enough to find its flaws because I really don't push the limits at all.
If you have a specific application that you'd like me to compare between the two versions I could post back my results. Its probably going to be apples/oranges with your system, but I'd be interested in hearing what is so slow for you and see if I show similar results.
I still use older versions of PS primarily (CS and CS2), but have a lot of respect for PSP and use it occasionally. I did notice some speed improvement between X2 and X3, but nothing earth-shattering. I run on a pretty basic dual-core 2GB RAM system and rarely shoot RAW, so I'm not a heavy CPU user.
Our platforms are totally different, and its quite possible Adobe has exploited the quad core much better than Corel in recent versions. If that's the case then I can't compare that for you. FWIW, I've noticed PS running faster in general, but not all that dramatically different from either version of PSP. Maybe I haven't used it enough to find its flaws because I really don't push the limits at all.
If you have a specific application that you'd like me to compare between the two versions I could post back my results. Its probably going to be apples/oranges with your system, but I'd be interested in hearing what is so slow for you and see if I show similar results.
If you work with large files (e.g. shoot in RAW and work with TIFF files as an intermediate format) then X3 has a memory leak that is known about but hasn't been fixed as yet that means it needs restarting every once in a while once it runs out of memory. The improvements over X2 really aren't that great either. If you have X2 now then i'd be tempted to wait until the next version.
canuck dave
Senior Member
"If you work with large files (e.g. shoot in RAW and work with TIFF files as an intermediate format) then X3 has a memory leak that is known about but hasn't been fixed as yet that means it needs restarting every once in a while once it runs out of memory."..................
I'm not aware of that. I have Win7 64-bit with 4 Gb RAM and regularly work with TIFFs that (due to previous editing) are 100Mb and more, without any problems.
I'm not aware of that. I have Win7 64-bit with 4 Gb RAM and regularly work with TIFFs that (due to previous editing) are 100Mb and more, without any problems.
Its not immediate but after about 10 or so cycles of open, edit, save it'll go south for me (based on 16 bit uncompressed TIFF files created from a Canon 7D RAW) and you'll get an out of memory error and need to restart X3. Annoying if you're working through large batches of shots. Its an acknowledged issue that, after a year or so since it was raised by myself and others, they've never fixed.
BTW I also run Win7 64 bit but with 8GB RAM.
BG454
Veteran Member
And I thought it was my system that was crashing!
For me the biggest problem with X2 is that it looses all your EXIF information once you've edited and resaved. Does X3 still suffer from this same problem?
I noticed that X3 was on sale recently, does that mean that X4 might be released soon?
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I don't lose EXIF in PSPX2, you have to check the box " save exif info" in your save options dialog box. As far as slowness goes I have no issues with that using a 1yr old mid range quad machine with 8 gigs. Some filters are rather slower than others though (such as the salt & pepper filter). It's not perfect but I still prefer it to PS for my needs.
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coraxphoto
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I run X3 on a pretty basic system: Win7, AMD dual core 2.20 GHz, 3 gig RAM
I never had any issues with X2. X3 runs fine most of the time. I have had the "out of memory" error or whatever it says, happen three or four times since installing, and I tend to use the software often. I like the text tool in X3 waaaaaaay better. I like both better than Elements. I also have CS3 and hardly ever use it. Hopefully Corel starts off with a winning release of X4 whenever that happens.
I don't know if a sale indicates anything new or not. I have noticed a LOT of photo software going on sale the past months. I think it is a reaction to a slow economy more than anything.
BG454
Veteran Member
Hmm, that's interesting. The loss of EXIF with PSP is a well known subject, do a search for "paintshop pro x2 lose exif" and there are dozens of references, including responses from Corel saying (effectively) "that's the way it is."
When I try to save an image in PSP X2 I get the following message:
Perhaps you cam explain to me how you overcome this problem?
(BTW the "Save exif" box in the save menu is ticked.)
I seem to recall that to make the EXIF save, a suggestion was that you need to do a "Save AS" rather than simply "Save", but I can't seem to make that work either.
This is somewhat annoying, since I much prefer PSP over PSE and many of the PSP editing tools are much nicer to use than those in PSE.
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BG454
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My scenario is this:
I'm scanning 35mm slides using VueScan software, and saving them as 16-bit TIFF files for further editing, average file size is around 21MB. Within VueScan there is an option to automatically open the saved file after you save it, using your chosen Photo Editor. When I do this using Paintshop X2, it opens and displays the saved TIFF OK, and I can carry out basic cropping and straightening etc. I resave, close and exit PSP X2 and scan my next slide. After about three slides, instead of automatically opening PSP X2 I get the message "PaintShop Pro Cannot start" and I have to quit everything and start again, whereupon I can then open the latest saved file.
I don't get any specific "out of memory" message, just "PSP Cannot start."
I'm running Windows 7 64-bit with 4GB RAM and a 3GHz Quad core processor.
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brucet
Senior Member
I use PSPx2. I edit 92meg 16bit tiffs and have no real speed issues. (4gig on a 64 bit laptop). Sure sometimes noise reduction etc take a while but it's no big deal.
I also never loose the EXIF info. I get the message but the EXIF is still there. But I also believe it has something to do with the file format you are using.
http://www.pspug.org/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl may be of interest for help issues.
I also never loose the EXIF info. I get the message but the EXIF is still there. But I also believe it has something to do with the file format you are using.
http://www.pspug.org/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl may be of interest for help issues.
coraxphoto
Well-known member
I think more people had buggy issues with X3 than they did X2. X2 was always very stable for me. You might want to contact Corel directly or inquire at a PSP specific message board, as you probably have a more unique situation.
Sorry, it's so rare that I save to a tiff I forgot that you do lose your EXIF when saving to a Tiff, I rarely save to a tiff since my final save from LR is usually a jpeg. I mostly edit in jpeg with PSP since it has no 16bit work flow anyway, I just have not found any real benifit to trying to keep it a tiff. I always have the raw file if I need it.
You can open an edited 8 bit tff converted from a raw in LR (exif will be there) and do all the you want to it then save as a finished jpeg or PSP's native format for further work later. If you save it as a tiff again the EXIF will be gone.
I don't know why Corel does not upgade PSP to a real 16bit work flow with EXIF available to plug-ins but that's the way it is with Corel. PSP keeps getting more bells and whistles but not any real program code updates. For the $29 I paid I can't complain. I would rather pay $200 for solid PS competitor. I just don't care for PS (I really like LR though) or I would have purchased it long ago, its not a money issue I just like PSP better for what I use it for even though it has some drawbacks.
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Ron J
You can open an edited 8 bit tff converted from a raw in LR (exif will be there) and do all the you want to it then save as a finished jpeg or PSP's native format for further work later. If you save it as a tiff again the EXIF will be gone.
I don't know why Corel does not upgade PSP to a real 16bit work flow with EXIF available to plug-ins but that's the way it is with Corel. PSP keeps getting more bells and whistles but not any real program code updates. For the $29 I paid I can't complain. I would rather pay $200 for solid PS competitor. I just don't care for PS (I really like LR though) or I would have purchased it long ago, its not a money issue I just like PSP better for what I use it for even though it has some drawbacks.
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Ron J
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