Suggest me a wide angle manual compact camera.

[bydloman]

1. 24 mm equivalent
2. PASM modes
3. 30 or more second of shutter speed available
4. Wide aperture

5. I'm not particularly interested in a 24-30000 mm lens because I rarely use tele

Those are the requirements.

I was thinking about the LX5, but the image quality of the new Olympus XZ-1 looks better... (don't they share the same sensor? That's strange)
Still, the LX5 has a wider angle lens...

Do you know any other model that I should take in consideration?

 

[Barrie Davis]

1. 24 mm equivalent
2. PASM modes
3. 30 or more second of shutter speed available
4. Wide aperture

5. I'm not particularly interested in a 24-30000 mm lens because I rarely use tele

Those are the requirements.

I was thinking about the LX5, but the image quality of the new Olympus XZ-1 looks better... (don't they share the same sensor? That's strange)
Still, the LX5 has a wider angle lens...

And LX5 has 18mm equivalent (16:9) add-on lens , too.

I shouldn't think there's much difference in image quality compared with Oly.. they are both good cameras.. and besides, if you shoot RAW, ultimate output quality is up (down?) to you.
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Regards,
Baz

"Ahh... But the thing is, they were not just ORDINARY time travellers!"

 

[AnandaSim]

1. 24 mm equivalent

If you want 24, it is the LX

2. PASM modes

Both

3. 30 or more second of shutter speed available

Dunno. With that type of camera I would not bother for myself.

4. Wide aperture

Both.

I was thinking about the LX5, but the image quality of the new Olympus XZ-1 looks better... (don't they share the same sensor? That's strange)

I can see colour fringing on the XZ-1 highlight shapes scenes if I look closely but in general it does not bother me. People spot JPEG smearing at ISO above native but maybe the LX5 has too? At native ISO the XZ-1 is sharp and clear and has the Olympus JPEG style. I prefer the XZ but that is me.

Still, the LX5 has a wider angle lens...

Do you know any other model that I should take in consideration?

Someone will speak up.

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[tkbslc]

You specifically mention wide angle and 24mm. That rules out the XZ-1 at 28mm.

That leaves Panasonic LX5 and LX3 or Samsung TL500 (EX1). The Samsung has dropped to around $300 now, so that is a very attractive option if you don't need HD video.

 

[andy amos]

From high to low suitability and price (ish):

1)Top of the crop would surely be the up and coming Fuji X100! Mind you I couldn't aford one myself!

2)I'd head for maybe an olympus E-450 + 25mm pancake lens. smallest SLR combo and some good offers if you look around.

3) Moving on to no-viewfinder cameras, a panny GF2 + the 17mm pancake (The 25mm is better but they don't sell it bundled as a kit with this model)
4) Oly Pen P2 / PL2 + 25mm pancake + viewfinder
5) Point and shoot... the LX5

 

[Barrie Davis]

From high to low suitability and price (ish):

I am puzzled by your suggestions. They are all good cameras, but most of them do not meet the OP's prime requirement of having 24mm lens... (??? )

1)Top of the crop would surely be the up and coming Fuji X100! Mind you I couldn't afford one myself!

Fujifilm X100 is fitted with 35mm equivalent lens... that's a big difference compared to 24mm equivalent.

2) I'd head for maybe an olympus E-450 + 25mm pancake lens. smallest SLR combo and some good offers if you look around.

Huh? That's more of a standard lens... equivalent to 50mm on fullframe. To be so wide as 24mm effective, on 4/3rds cameras the f-length must be 12mm actual.

3) Moving on to no-viewfinder cameras, a panny GF2 + the 17mm pancake (The 25mm is better but they don't sell it bundled as a kit with this model)

GF2 is also a 4/3rds camera, so 17mm is 34mm equivalent, which is pretty much the same as Fujifilm X100's 35mm f-length... therefore also too long.

4) Oly Pen P2 / PL2 + 25mm pancake + viewfinder

Nope! Oly is another 4/3rds camera, so the 25mm is, again, equivalent to 50mm.

5) Point and shoot... the LX5

Yes!! The LX5, also the LX3 which preceded it, do have 24mm at wide end. Further attributes of LX5 model include ..

• Not limited to 24mm... zooms to 100mm+
• Very wide aperture (f/2) at 24mm setting.
• Also has high grade 18mm lens adaptor available....

... making the ensemble the widest, brightest, sharpest, cheapest super-wide outfit there has ever been in the whole history of photography up until this present date (probably).

Samsung also has a wide-aperture wide-angle compact available, and represents an alternative at the 24mm length, but I don't think it has any lens adaptor available to make it wider than 24...[??]
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Regards,
Baz

"Ahh... But the thing is, they were not just ORDINARY time travellers!"

 

[andy amos]

Yep, I stand corrected, have to take back all those camera options apart from the LX5 on the the grounds that non have the desired focal length of 24mm. Shame! Theres the Pentax Kr and beautiful DA 15mm limited, but we're going up in size and the lens alone costs more than the LX5!

It has to be the Panny Lumix then, probably the best point and shoot digital camera on the market for value and quality.

 

[Barrie Davis]

Yep, I stand corrected, have to take back all those camera options apart from the LX5 on the the grounds that non have the desired focal length of 24mm. Shame! Theres the Pentax Kr and beautiful DA 15mm limited, but we're going up in size and the lens alone costs more than the LX5!

It has to be the Panny Lumix then, probably the best point and shoot digital camera on the market for value and quality.

I am currently using a pair of LX3 cameras, one with the 18mm adaptor more-or-less permanantly mounted.

It was only when I had examined the quality of the images the wide-angle combination produced, and considered the hand-held ease with which they had been cracked-off in low light...

... that I realised I had never before had such a very good wide-angle camera....

... and, moreover, that I could not have got the same performance with any other camera, regardless of price, or at any time previously..... (the LX5 stands in the same shoes, so they say.)

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Regards,
Baz

"Ahh... But the thing is, they were not just ORDINARY time travellers!"