New Laptop, colors way off

[Undah]

Just got a new Toshiba i3 and find the colors to be way off as compared to my old Toshiba.

Even worse, I'm having a hard time finding the adjustments to correct this. Any ideas?

If it helps, it has Windows 7 Home 64 bit, and the video 'card' is the built-in Intel HD with shared memory.

 

[AikenMooney]

If you have been on this forum very long you understand how bad (at least not very good) laptop screens are. The $4000 HP is said to have a good screen and there are some more that are not so bad. Some people on this forum think you should not even bother to calibrate a laptop. I disagree with that.

You say "compared to your old Toshiba". Was your old Toshiba calibrated? I have a Sony Z series that I travel with and it is in the "fair" category after hardware calibration. I also calilbrate my digital projector and it made a a noticeable improvement.

I have a friend with a fairly new Dell Inspiron and it was the worse looking screen I have ever seen. She does scultpure and I was e-mailing her my photography of her work and she was not a "happy camper". Finally I suggest she come over here and see the photos on my 2 calibrated desktop monitors and she could not believe the difference. To her, they went from unuseable to beauriful. I calibrated her laptop with a Spyder and there was a huge improvement. It is now up to the "not too bad" category and she can now show clients her work. I had to impress on her that the client still had to be directly in front of the laptop.

You might try some of the test images on the net as a visual test but that is not too much beter than not doing anything. Laptops have few controls over the monitor in any case.

 

[Spad16]

I may be wrong but I have a feeling that older lap-tops had better screens. Certainly I was very happy with the screen on our old HP 17" till the mother-board went and it was replaced with a new one, the new one has never been as good, with the typical TN-screen problems. Our newer ASUS UL30 13.3" laptop has an attrocious screen. I had to get an IPS monitor for it (a HP ZR24w which is very nice).
Anyone else feel that older laptops were better, or was it just luck?
Neil

 

[Peter 13]

+1

I have a Vaio Z, too, and I like it a lot, well, not so much as my external ISP panels. I have calibrated 7-8 laptop screens so far with Spyder 2 and Spyder 3. Each one benefited from it.

One of the worst laptop screens I have seen is a recent Thinkpad (they have some good screens but this was not one of them). The best are my old Thinkpad T43p (ISP ), and my new Vaio Z (TN ).

So, in short, calibrate it. But if it looks washed out, it will stay that way, more less.

If you have been on this forum very long you understand how bad (at least not very good) laptop screens are. The $4000 HP is said to have a good screen and there are some more that are not so bad. Some people on this forum think you should not even bother to calibrate a laptop. I disagree with that.

You say "compared to your old Toshiba". Was your old Toshiba calibrated? I have a Sony Z series that I travel with and it is in the "fair" category after hardware calibration. I also calilbrate my digital projector and it made a a noticeable improvement.

I have a friend with a fairly new Dell Inspiron and it was the worse looking screen I have ever seen. She does scultpure and I was e-mailing her my photography of her work and she was not a "happy camper". Finally I suggest she come over here and see the photos on my 2 calibrated desktop monitors and she could not believe the difference. To her, they went from unuseable to beauriful. I calibrated her laptop with a Spyder and there was a huge improvement. It is now up to the "not too bad" category and she can now show clients her work. I had to impress on her that the client still had to be directly in front of the laptop.

You might try some of the test images on the net as a visual test but that is not too much beter than not doing anything. Laptops have few controls over the monitor in any case.

 

[caspianm]

Look under all programs, Intel, intel control center, ccc. Or right click the mouse on desktop and click on graphic properties.

It provides RGB control to do a D65 calibration. You can use external color profile as well for 5500 color temp.

I still have my Toshiba and color accuracy in terms of RGB and secondaries were excellent. The problem is color temp that needs to be calibrated with all monitors. They come out of box very blue and contrast cranked up.

Under intel control center use brightness for bias and contrast as overall gain across the grayscale for each color. If you have colorimeter use it otherwise do an eye approximation of what you like.

 

[fringephoto]

I find that in general most laptop manufacturers are using really crappy LCD screens in most of their models. Whenever possible always upgrade and getter the better screen because all the base screens just seem to be terrible these days.

Maybe most people don't care but I like having a high resolution but try finding that on a 15" laptop, doesn't really exist that much, very limited options.

 

[Skipper494]

Useless for imaging. Use Win 7 Pro 64-bit and a desktop with a decent monitor for less money, then you can download the applets that run the XP virtual machine and run older programs. I"m running Lotus Organiser. a Windows 98 program.

 

[Undah]

This is what I'm looking for: a way to change color temp.

Look under all programs, Intel, intel control center, ccc. Or right click the mouse on desktop and click on graphic properties.

I didn't find anything where you pointed out.

Right click, graphic properties doesn't have an option for color temp. Any other things I can look for?

It provides RGB control to do a D65 calibration. You can use external color profile as well for 5500 color temp.

I still have my Toshiba and color accuracy in terms of RGB and secondaries were excellent. The problem is color temp that needs to be calibrated with all monitors. They come out of box very blue and contrast cranked up.

Under intel control center use brightness for bias and contrast as overall gain across the grayscale for each color. If you have colorimeter use it otherwise do an eye approximation of what you like.

 

[caspianm]

Rightclick on the desktop, click on graphic property, click on color enhancement.
Mostly you would want to reduce blue. Try -15 clicks.
If no graphic property available, try Intel under all programs.

If not available right click, personalize, display, calibrate color, then adjust gamma and colr temp by messing with blue, green etc.

 

[pk pete]

passing comments:

My experience has been - notebook displays are not good for photo editing or slide show.

I used my Colormunki to calibrate my new macbook air 13' and Thinkpad W500, but in vain. Colormunki does not do anything except making them bad. I had to revert to factory default. Don't get me wrong. I use Colormunki to calibrate my 24" ips display which hooked to my MacPro. The calibration is ok.

If Lenovo can put the old T60p (ips) display on their modern notebooks, it would be great for modern photo viewing and editing. T60p simply does not have enough
CPU power to drive today's softwares (limted to 32-bit).

pete