TV settings on G2

Carter Howards

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When I go to TV or M and set identical settings to those read by me when the camera made its choice in automatic mode, the resulting images are not focused the same. Auto is sharper. (Flash off, WB, AF and all other choices were the same.)
What am I missing here?
Thanks for any explanation,
Carter
 
When I go to TV or M and set identical settings to those read by me
when the camera made its choice in automatic mode, the resulting
images are not focused the same. Auto is sharper. (Flash off, WB,
AF and all other choices were the same.)
What am I missing here?
Thanks for any explanation,
Carter
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed thumbnail.

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http://edsphotos.us/
 
Good thinking. That sounds like the ticket. I didn't realize this but it seems that one can't choose RAW in Auto mode. Guess that shows how many times I've used Auto in the last 10 months (zero). :)

Michael
When I go to TV or M and set identical settings to those read by me
when the camera made its choice in automatic mode, the resulting
images are not focused the same. Auto is sharper. (Flash off, WB,
AF and all other choices were the same.)
What am I missing here?
Thanks for any explanation,
Carter
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you
by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot
raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed
thumbnail.

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http://edsphotos.us/
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http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
 
Both photos were taken in JPEG.

Thank you both for replying. I did go out and try to duplicate this problem with a more distant subject. The blur happened again on the same settings in TV but again Auto was sharp and crisp.

The funny part is that my photos are always in focus in P mode and I only started to test TV and M mode because other good photographers seem to be using them in clever ways.

Carter
Michael
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you
by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot
raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed
thumbnail.

---------------
http://edsphotos.us/
--
http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
 
Can you post them?

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Eric
http://www.pbase.com/haglunde
Thank you both for replying. I did go out and try to duplicate this
problem with a more distant subject. The blur happened again on the
same settings in TV but again Auto was sharp and crisp.

The funny part is that my photos are always in focus in P mode and
I only started to test TV and M mode because other good
photographers seem to be using them in clever ways.

Carter
Michael
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you
by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot
raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed
thumbnail.

---------------
http://edsphotos.us/
--
http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
 
You are talking both about blur and focus. You need to find out what problem you see exactly. I have never used AUTO mode because it limits you to use JPG. Perhaps AUTO sharpens the photo right out of the camera. Maybe you should post some examples.
  • Frank
Thank you both for replying. I did go out and try to duplicate this
problem with a more distant subject. The blur happened again on the
same settings in TV but again Auto was sharp and crisp.

The funny part is that my photos are always in focus in P mode and
I only started to test TV and M mode because other good
photographers seem to be using them in clever ways.

Carter
Michael
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you
by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot
raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed
thumbnail.

---------------
http://edsphotos.us/
--
http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
 
OK, you are right. I will take time to learn how to post photos and then ask again.

What I meant by 'blur' was that in one photo the edges of leaves are sharp lines and in the other the are soft --if I enlarge twice on the LCD.

In the middle distance photos, I had a cupboard with a plate showing pigs. In one case the drawn outline of the pig showed, in the other it was blended or blurred into the pig's color.

Thanks for your thoughts on sharpening. I figured that action would affect the whole scene and not just the central plate.
I erased the original tests but will take some more to post.
Carter

Sharpening
  • Frank
Thank you both for replying. I did go out and try to duplicate this
problem with a more distant subject. The blur happened again on the
same settings in TV but again Auto was sharp and crisp.

The funny part is that my photos are always in focus in P mode and
I only started to test TV and M mode because other good
photographers seem to be using them in clever ways.

Carter
Michael
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you
by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot
raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed
thumbnail.

---------------
http://edsphotos.us/
--
http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
 
You are talking about viewing the pictures on the LCD? If you see a difference here I guess it’s because the camera uses the thumbnail for the LCD. Perhaps this isn’t the case in AUTO mode. Actually, I would think the camera uses the original file for the LCD, as long it’s not RAW. How does it look on your monitor – that’s what count isn’t it? As I wrote before I never shoot in JPG and therefore the LCD does not produce a sharp image. I only use the LCD for composing and after I take the picture I check the histogram for any blown out highlights.
  • Frank
What I meant by 'blur' was that in one photo the edges of leaves
are sharp lines and in the other the are soft --if I enlarge twice
on the LCD.
In the middle distance photos, I had a cupboard with a plate
showing pigs. In one case the drawn outline of the pig showed, in
the other it was blended or blurred into the pig's color.
Thanks for your thoughts on sharpening. I figured that action would
affect the whole scene and not just the central plate.
I erased the original tests but will take some more to post.
Carter

Sharpening
  • Frank
Thank you both for replying. I did go out and try to duplicate this
problem with a more distant subject. The blur happened again on the
same settings in TV but again Auto was sharp and crisp.

The funny part is that my photos are always in focus in P mode and
I only started to test TV and M mode because other good
photographers seem to be using them in clever ways.

Carter
Michael
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you
by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot
raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed
thumbnail.

---------------
http://edsphotos.us/
--
http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
 
What shutter speeds were you using in M and Tv modes? It could be that Auto automatically set a large aperture (small f/number) to make sure you were using a fast shutter speed but you may have set the shutter speed too slow in Tv and M modes and got motion blur from "camera shake". The general rule of thumb for hand-held shots is to set your shutter speed to at least 1/focal length. For example at wide angle (34mm) you shouldn't go below 1/30 sec. For max zoom (102mm) you shouldn't go
below 1/100 sec. Let us know what shutter speeds you were using.

Michael
it’s not RAW. How does it look on your monitor – that’s what count
isn’t it? As I wrote before I never shoot in JPG and therefore the
LCD does not produce a sharp image. I only use the LCD for
composing and after I take the picture I check the histogram for
any blown out highlights.
  • Frank
What I meant by 'blur' was that in one photo the edges of leaves
are sharp lines and in the other the are soft --if I enlarge twice
on the LCD.
In the middle distance photos, I had a cupboard with a plate
showing pigs. In one case the drawn outline of the pig showed, in
the other it was blended or blurred into the pig's color.
Thanks for your thoughts on sharpening. I figured that action would
affect the whole scene and not just the central plate.
I erased the original tests but will take some more to post.
Carter

Sharpening
  • Frank
Thank you both for replying. I did go out and try to duplicate this
problem with a more distant subject. The blur happened again on the
same settings in TV but again Auto was sharp and crisp.

The funny part is that my photos are always in focus in P mode and
I only started to test TV and M mode because other good
photographers seem to be using them in clever ways.

Carter
Michael
How are you judging this sharpness, on the LCD? If so then are you
by any chance using RAW in Tv and M but JPEG in Auto? If you shoot
raw the LCD display of the image is from a tiny, highly compressed
thumbnail.

---------------
http://edsphotos.us/
--
http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
--
http://www.pbase.com/mooremwm
http://www.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=7178
 

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