Metz 32 MZ-3

[michael lim]

Hi!

Will the 32 MZ-3 be fully compatible for all TTL features in P/A/S and manual mode? For my applications, I do not need a powerful flash such as the 54 although I understand it is a feature packed flash as well. Thanks! Mike

 

[Steve Green65835]

Hi!
Will the 32 MZ-3 be fully compatible for all TTL features in P/A/S
and manual mode? For my applications, I do not need a powerful
flash such as the 54 although I understand it is a feature packed
flash as well. Thanks! Mike

Michael:

I asked the Bogen rep the same question a while ago, and he said that the 32 does NOT provide full TTL with the Oly. I don't remember the details, but IIRC, it uses the older SCA 3xx series modules.
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Steve Green

 

[Michael Eggers]

Hi,

i use a 32MZ-3 with the SCA 3202 adapter with my E-20 and it works great for me. TTL is no problem with this adapter and you can also use the combination as a slave flash. This is what i often do, i set the built-in flash to -1,5EV and use the Metz in his computer mode. esp. often in for macros, so i can flash from a little greater distance and angle.
regards
Michael

 

[michael lim]

i use a 32MZ-3 with the SCA 3202 adapter with my E-20 and it works
great for me. TTL is no problem with this adapter and you can also
use the combination as a slave flash.

Hi Michael,

Your reply is exactly what I was hoping for. So with 32MZ-3, it can do TTL in all P/A/M mode without problems? Appreciate your valuable advise. Thanks. Mike

 

[John_of_LA]

I'm also using 32MZ-3 + SCA3202 + E-10 w/ no problem. I've noticed overexposing of near shots (not only macro), that I need to lower the flash power. Another problem is underexposed when bouncing, which i need to increase flash power.

Mostly, I was using A mode with the flash, some people has report that there are some probs with P mode....
Hope that helps,
John

i use a 32MZ-3 with the SCA 3202 adapter with my E-20 and it works
great for me. TTL is no problem with this adapter and you can also
use the combination as a slave flash.

Hi Michael,
Your reply is exactly what I was hoping for. So with 32MZ-3, it can
do TTL in all P/A/M mode without problems? Appreciate your valuable
advise. Thanks. Mike

 

[michael lim]

Hi John,

Just got my flash! So for no fuss shots, I just set to CZ, TTL and run it in P/A/S or manual mode? So the flash icon will still control the flash for all modes on the Metz (ie, flash, flash cancellation, etc). Any valuable tips?
Thanks! Michael

 

[John_of_LA]

Dear Mike,

I am assume that you have installed SCA 3202 module. Set the flash to CZ is the best. But if you got corner drop out at wide angle, try setting at 28 mm or use the reflecting card.

I was using ISO 64 setting for a while, but one of our friend here said it should be set to ISO 100. I changed it and got better result (less overexposed shot). If u photograph something near, u might need to avoid direct flash, it would overexposed, or u can lower flash level by -1 to -1 2/3 stop. (if u want to use direct flash to photograph something near, try to use on-board flash. it works better in this case!)

You can use any mode on camera (P/A/S/M) but A mode seems to work best for me. Don't use too narrow aperture because our flash is not that powerful. Try it and you will see. Nevertheless, it's not fully support TTL in all mode. The manual of SCA3202 is said clearly.

Most of my use is boucing it to ceiling. Usually, the result is good (A mode, f/2.8-4). However, sometime u need to compensate the flash strength in your camera setting (+2/3 to 1 stop).

And, Yes! the flash icon on camera LCD is still control the flash for all mode! But once u turn the flash on, u can't cancel it using flash icon (but u can just simply turn the flash off!).

Last thing, Metz 32MZ-3 is not a very 'professional' flash. If you fire the flash in high power too often, it will be fried. Says normal use is fine but if you try to use high power at rate, says, one flash per 10-15 sec for 10-20 minute, I'm sure it will be burnt coz I've done it!
Enjoy now! It's a lot more fun with external flash!
John

Hi John,
Just got my flash! So for no fuss shots, I just set to CZ, TTL and
run it in P/A/S or manual mode? So the flash icon will still
control the flash for all modes on the Metz (ie, flash, flash
cancellation, etc). Any valuable tips?
Thanks! Michael

 

[michael lim]

You can use any mode on camera (P/A/S/M) but A mode seems to work best for me.

Hi John,

Thanks very much for your valuable tips. I would like your advice on the following:

1) Fill in flash- Can the E20 built in flash be used simultaneously with the Metz eg Metz to bounce off the ceiling while the built in be used for fill-in or normal frontal shots? For outdoor shots, will it do a good job for fill in shots as well?

2) Shutter priority mode- Is the maximum shutter speed 250? Or would 125 be more appropriate?

3) Aperture priority mode- what would be the ideal setting for portrait? For subject to stand out, aperture of 2+ is good (with blurred background) but does the Metz takes into consideration shutter speed chosen by camera and output the right amt of flash?

Other than putting the Metz to its CZ settings, what are your rule of thumb should you resort to setting it manually in P/A/S mode?

Thanks again for your advice!

Best regards,
Mike

 

[John_of_LA]

Hello Mikey!

You can use any mode on camera (P/A/S/M) but A mode seems to work best for me.

Hi John,
Thanks very much for your valuable tips. I would like your advice
on the following:

1) Fill in flash- Can the E20 built in flash be used simultaneously
with the Metz eg Metz to bounce off the ceiling while the built in
be used for fill-in or normal frontal shots? For outdoor shots,
will it do a good job for fill in shots as well?

Ans: Sorry, the answer is no. I'm using E-10 but I assumed it would be the same as E-20. When you attach the 32MZ-3 to the camera, the internal flash will not fully popped up so the camera would think it's not yet popped up. Nevertheless, I think if you could put 32MZ-3 off camera using extension cable, u might be able to do it.

2) Shutter priority mode- Is the maximum shutter speed 250? Or
would 125 be more appropriate?

Ans: Due to my understanding, E-10/20 can sync flash up to its highest shutter (i.e. 1/640, not mentioning progressive scan mode!). So, it's the question that how much ambient light that you want in the shot rather than camera limitation.

3) Aperture priority mode- what would be the ideal setting for
portrait? For subject to stand out, aperture of 2+ is good (with
blurred background) but does the Metz takes into consideration
shutter speed chosen by camera and output the right amt of flash?

Ans: I think it has nothing to do with shutter speed much in this case, flash would be so brief compared to the shutter speed. The Metz would definately takes the aperture, but the camera will decide the shutter speed. And, yes, the metz will do the right job for correct light amount.

If you want blurry background you should stick with wider aperture and more focal length.

Other than putting the Metz to its CZ settings, what are your rule
of thumb should you resort to setting it manually in P/A/S mode?

Ans: Mostly CZ setting is fine with me, but I usually got some vignette at 35mm-28mm (with WCON), so I use 28mm setting.

I'm not sure about boucing flash that you should use wider setting or the CZ (I'm curious about that too! but the CZ setting is fine with me)

Thanks again for your advice!

Ans: My preasure! I think you already got the things, the best thing you can do is try it out!

John

 

[Hans H. Siegrist]

Hi!
Will the 32 MZ-3 be fully compatible for all TTL features in P/A/S
and manual mode? For my applications, I do not need a powerful
flash such as the 54 although I understand it is a feature packed
flash as well. Thanks! Mike

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