TTV with M4/3

[lebob]

First attempt at TTV using a Kodak Duaflex. Handheld with nothing made yet to block light around the TLR viewfinder. These are not all that good, just testing it to see if it would work. Done with E-PL1 and kit lens. I recently discovered TTV photos online and wanted to try it. The Duoflex was $10 on Ebay.

The first one is with fungus, the last two are after cleaning the lens.

 

[efix]

Those look quite interesting, but what the ... is TTV?

 

[John Bean (UK)]

Those look quite interesting, but what the ... is TTV?

My thought exactly. I hate it when I see a TLA without explanation ;-)

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[xtraviolent]

I think it means Through The Viewfinder...but I agree lesser-known abbreviations should be mentioned at least once IMO!

 

[Ulfric M Douglas]

"Terribly Terribly Vile ", a special use of scummy glass to render kitchens instantly squalid.



Used to great effect on Eastenders, Shameless and "How clean is your house".(British Telly)

 

[BigBarney]

Those look quite interesting, but what the ... is TTV?

My thought exactly. I hate it when I see a TLA without explanation ;-)

John, TLA is an initialism for Three Letter Acronym. One of the problems of using such abbreviations is that the meaning of the word acronym is abused and expanded to cover whatever the poster wants it to mean! An acronym is a word made up of the initial letters of its full version. True acronyms are things like SCUBA (Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus) or RADAR (Radio Detection And Ranging), whereas things like DSLR (Digital Single Lens Reflex) are more accurately described as initialisms.

Anyway TTV ( Through the viewfinder) is definitely an initialism and not an acronym as nobody in their right mind would ever use TTV as a word in normal conversation. Yes, initialisms can migrate with usage to become acronyms and arguably DSLR is well on the way to such status.

Rant over.

 

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[BigBarney]

First attempt at TTV using a Kodak Duaflex. Handheld with nothing made yet to block light around the TLR viewfinder. These are not all that good, just testing it to see if it would work. Done with E-PL1 and kit lens. I recently discovered TTV photos online and wanted to try it. The Duoflex was $10 on Ebay.

If I understand this correctly you have used your micro four thirds camera to take an image of the viewfinder screen of an old twin lens reflex film camera. Why? If it is the 1:1 aspect ratio you are after you can get this with the latest firmware upgrades on cameras such as the G1 and the LX3, or by simply cropping on any digital camera image.

What did this technique offer you that direct digital imaging could not? The optical quality of the viewing lenses on twin lens reflex cameras were not great compared to the image capture lenses, and if you were after some sort of ethereal image quality you could have done this in post-processing software.

 

[efix]

Maybe I should do my PhD on the linguistics of photography instead ...

 

[dbateman]

All interested I found this link:

http://www.russmorris.com/ttv/02.html

I really like the images you have here. Interesting effect and I never knew of this style. It also makes my kitchen look god like clean!

To the bashing poster, what takes 4 hours in software that can be done for $20 and a shutter click is in my mind plain stupid. If you like the effect and you have $20 to spend on e-bay then buy the kodak camera. If not then don't waist your time.

I have come to learn that doing it right in the camera is the way to go. I rather like to take photos, select what I deem best and delete rather then spend a day a computer!

 

[lebob]

Wow! A lot of responses to respond to. My apologies, I thought TTV (Through the Viewfinder) was academic by now.

http://www.shutterbug.com/techniques/pro_techniques/1109ttv/

What the heck was I thinking. The TV in TTV might have metonymic suggestion. The viewing sceen on the Kodak Duaflex looks like an old TV. I didn't think TTV would create such a stir, haha.

Through the Viewfinder photos are taken through the viewing screen of and old twin lens reflex camera, like a Kodak Duaflex:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Kodak-Duaflex-II-camera-with-flash-and-bulbs_W0QQitemZ290423476407QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439e9690b7

There are many pages of groups dedicated to TTV on Flickr ( http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?w=all&q=ttv )

TTV photos are also one of the top selling photo techniques by artists selling their photos on Etsy.com ( http://www.etsy.com/search_results.php?search_query=ttv&search_type=handmade&ref=auto ).

If you are wondering about the use of such a technique, it gets results like a Holga or other toy cameras. I was looking for another technique to add to my arsenal of interesting and entertaining 2D (two-dimensional) design projects for my classes.

 

[Anfy]

A pity, though, that the two cameras + the "tube adapter" make a very bulk ensemble.

Have you ever tried the Diana F+ lenses with the newly announced adapter instead?

Ciao!

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[lebob]

I didn't know a Diana lens adapter was available. I will look into it. Do you have or have you used Diana lenses on digital cameras?

Thanks

 

[Andrewteee]

Nice work.

 

[lebob]

I found the lenses an adapter online. I'll probably get it all to experiment with. Looks like fun. Plenty of examples to look at on Flickr too.

Thanks

 

[John Bean (UK)]

Big sigh. Do you suffer from IDS[1]? If so then I can confirm you are absolutely right, but must also add that my post was not meant to be taken so seriously.

If you don't have IDS then you probably need to get a life.

Notes:
[1] IDS - Irony Deficiency Syndrome

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[lebob]

Shot with E-PL1.

 

[Ulfric M Douglas]

Big sigh. Do you suffer from IDS[1]? If so then I can confirm you are absolutely right, but must also add that my post was not meant to be taken so seriously.

John, this is an international forum, IDS is culturally and genetically rife.

I enjoyed the explanation of the difference between acronym and initialism though.

Now I'm off to find an old telly to shoot through...

 

[Anfy]

I didn't make use of any Diana F+ lens yet. What makes me think a bit is the huge crop factor: the larger 20mm Diana - a fisheye on 6X6 - should end if I am not wrong, on a micro 4/3 camera (via two adapters), in a 76mm focal lenght lens FF equivalent: 38mm X 2. See there:

http://microsites.lomography.com/diana/products/slr

On the other hand, it should be a great fun!

Ciao!

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[Anfy]

Do you know where may I find some pratical instructions to build the adapter? Also, do you think, on the digital side, that any type of camera could fit well (a P&S as the Canon G10, a Dslr or micro 4/3 camera, a "bridge camera" like the Sony R1)?

Shot with E-PL1.

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