F70 image quality

[Ceranic]

Hi to you all.

I want to buy a compact zoom and after reading some good things here on the forum and elsewhere about Fuji F70 and EXR i thought to go for it BUT after seeing sample F70 gallery here on dpreview I am not so sure about it.

Seems to me that F70 does a lot of processing even at ISO 100 and that causes almost all details to appear blurred and not sharp with lots of artifacts especially on low contrast details, such as foliage and hair but on other things as well (faces and buildings on image 22 in gallery)

Have you guys seen the F70 sample gallery. What do you think about it?

I was looking at 100% and pictures look very bad. F200, ZS1, ZS3, even Olympus 9000 images look better than F70.

PS. Sorry for my bad english

 

[prime]

I want to buy a compact zoom and after reading some good things here on the forum and elsewhere about Fuji F70 and EXR i thought to go for it BUT after seeing sample F70 gallery here on dpreview I am not so sure about it.

Have you guys seen the F70 sample gallery. What do you think about it?

We have not looked at the gallery; instead, we have looked at hundreds of images that we have exposed ourselves with our own F70EXR. The images are as good as those we obtained with our former F30, which was and is very good.

 

[Absolutic]

If you are going to pixel-peep at 100% every photo, F70 is not for you. I am very happy with my results, but I don't pixel-peep at them. At a pixel-peep level yes some may look better, but detail-wise at low light F70 is hard to beat. And for the record I think the gallery photos here at dpreview for F70 are excellent!















The last photo was under very challenging lighting conditions at ISO1600....

F72 is quite adequate unless you have fast movements in very low light, then it struggles due to its lens which is pretty slow at the tele end. Other than that, it is fine, as long as you don't pixel-peep at 100%
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[Ceranic]

OK, so it seems to me that F70 beets all others on high ISO, even with slow lens and for all other situations I'll have to not pixel-peep and pics will look good. I am used to DSLR so I was somewhat disappointed with F70 results but I think you are right about pixel-peeping on pictures of p&s cameras.

Thanks for posting that bunch of pictures.

 

[buckshot]

Ceranic

I was looking at 100% and pictures look very bad. F200, ZS1, ZS3, even Olympus 9000 images look better than F70.

I have not looked at all of those cams images in detail but you are right about the F200 so what do you want from the cam? Distance at a concert? F70 Better IQ? F200 Better video ... one of the rest. And you can go on, ask yourself the questions and your answers will narrow the choices quickly

Good luck
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[Paul De Bra]

The F70 and F200 are not very different in price. The sensors are similar (F70 a bit smaller with fewer pixels so same density). The F70 has a much larger zoom range. This inevitably means somewhat less sharpness from the lens. (This is not only true with large dslr lenses but also with compacts.) The camera tries to make up for the lack of sharpness by applying more in-camera sharpening. This produces the more "processed look".

Hi to you all.

I want to buy a compact zoom and after reading some good things here on the forum and elsewhere about Fuji F70 and EXR i thought to go for it BUT after seeing sample F70 gallery here on dpreview I am not so sure about it.

Seems to me that F70 does a lot of processing even at ISO 100 and that causes almost all details to appear blurred and not sharp with lots of artifacts especially on low contrast details, such as foliage and hair but on other things as well (faces and buildings on image 22 in gallery)

Have you guys seen the F70 sample gallery. What do you think about it?

I was looking at 100% and pictures look very bad. F200, ZS1, ZS3, even Olympus 9000 images look better than F70.

PS. Sorry for my bad english

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[Ceranic]

Thanks for answers.

Is it possible to decrease that over-processing in settings of F70. Has anyone tried that and is there a setting for amount of sharpening?

I would prefer more noise in order to get without those processing artifacts.

 

[Absolutic]

Ceranic, I understand where you are coming from if you are used to images from your DSLR. You need to let go, it just won't be like your DSLR images. But then you won't be able to sneak your DSLR with 70-200 2.8 lens to a concert, right? I'd love to be able to have a compact with 10X constant F/2.8 lens....but you know it ain't happening pretty much soon.

I again today was browsing through all the new offering of compacts with large zooms from every manufacturer. Pretty slow lenses everywhere. Pansonic ZS series with 4.7 or 4.8 at the long end and Canon 120 with also I believe 4.8 are the fastest. Everything else is F/5.5, F/5.7 etc, Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji, Pentax, Samsung. Canon S90 or Panasonic LX3 or Samsung's coming TL500 are all 2-4X zooms so I would not even consider them for what I need them for.
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[Absolutic]

oh and just so you know, video on F70 is pathetic. Perhaps better on F80.
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[Edlolim]

Hi,
I"m new to this forum,

but ref F70 and F200, I had a F70 now I have a F200 and I've found you need to do some serious setting-menu adjustments otherwise they will give you a "not so acceptable" result as some may expect. No doubt they are good for low light but definitely not out of the box. For a "regular" P&S shooter you better look at some other options i.e. brands like Canon or Sony and they'll output better IQ without lots of settings/menus adjustments as required by these fuji's cameras.

Pixel peeping at 50% if a picture is not properly exposed it'll look "bad", never mind 100%.

One must know-learn how to get out of a Fuji P&S its goods, not to everyone imho.

Ed

PS by 'regular' shooter I mean a person that does not want to spend too much time considering the general condition and exposure for every shot.