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denniswms said:
Exactly what feature is Aperture 2 lacking that is holding back your day rate increase or inhibiting your ability to take more interesting, technically superior, photographs?
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For me personally, absolutely nothing. Aperture works great and does everything I need it for. There is no way I would give up the DAM capabilities in Aperture. I will patiently wait for the new version. It will be here soon.

Ken
 
Apple is NOT a software company. The simple rule "follow the money" works here too. Software sure isn't the big money maker...

They use software to drive their hw sales....
Marco S Hyman said:
Marco S Hyman said:
Hahaha Apple a hardware company.
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Cringely said: "Remember Apple is a software company that sells its products in an expensive hardware box."

I think he's right. I just happen to like their software and find the hardware box not that much more expensive than the equivalent from other vendors. Maybe we'll see a new Aperture when Apple figures out how to ship it in an expensive hardware box ;)
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webfrasse said:
Apple is NOT a software company. The simple rule "follow the money" works here too. Software sure isn't the big money maker...

They use software to drive their hw sales....
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True, but they bought Logic and changed it from a front running pro audio app to another prosumer Apple style app that I haven't seen in use in a recording studio in years, and they alienated the original users and haven't made up for it with new ones.

FCP? They blewit on that as well. Used to see it around. Now I know far more editors that switched away from it than to it, or kept it as their tool.

Pros can't wait for solutions. They go get them. Software that has gaps is consumer or prosumer software, and they buy iMacs, not top of the line G5s.

Apple needs to address that or settle for being a consumer/prosumer company (and I'm an Applefanboy, all day long)
 
webfrasse said:
They use software to drive their hw sales....
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This is probably where Aperture users should place their greatest hope. Back when Aperture was first released, a lot of Mac users (like me) were cut out because Aperture demanded CPU and video card power that was only at the top end of Apple's hardware line. Back then Aperture was must-have, so many users upgraded their systems to run Aperture. Like you said, software drove hardware sales.

Well, now the Apple pro line is all due for a refresh. The new Core i5 and i7 chips are so powerful that you now have iMacs that outrun Mac Pros, that is obvious to everyone. CPUs of this new generation have to end up in MacBook Pros and Mac Pros soon. Don't be surprised if Apple rolls out new hardware sometime this year, driven by the latest CPUs, and at the same time comes out with an amazing new Aperture but the catch is it "runs best on our latest hardware" so give us money now and we'll gladly upgrade you...

So maybe Apple is setting up Aperture to drive their pro hardware again, when both are ready.
 
Ken BK said:
denniswms said:
Exactly what feature is Aperture 2 lacking that is holding back your day rate increase or inhibiting your ability to take more interesting, technically superior, photographs?
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For me personally, absolutely nothing. Aperture works great and does everything I need it for. There is no way I would give up the DAM capabilities in Aperture. I will patiently wait for the new version. It will be here soon.

Ken
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I've been wanting to try Aperture for a long time. It works fine with my D300, but couldn't be used for my old LX3 files. Since then I've bought a Canon S90 and also a Panasonic GF1, but Aperture won't recognize the files. I could shoot JPGs, but then I wouldn't need a RAW-converter...

Guess I will be very surprised the day I can process all the RAW-files I've shot the past two years.
  • iau
 
graybalanced said:
webfrasse said:
They use software to drive their hw sales....
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This is probably where Aperture users should place their greatest hope. Back when Aperture was first released, a lot of Mac users (like me) were cut out because Aperture demanded CPU and video card power that was only at the top end of Apple's hardware line. Back then Aperture was must-have, so many users upgraded their systems to run Aperture. Like you said, software drove hardware sales.

Well, now the Apple pro line is all due for a refresh. The new Core i5 and i7 chips are so powerful that you now have iMacs that outrun Mac Pros, that is obvious to everyone. CPUs of this new generation have to end up in MacBook Pros and Mac Pros soon. Don't be surprised if Apple rolls out new hardware sometime this year, driven by the latest CPUs, and at the same time comes out with an amazing new Aperture but the catch is it "runs best on our latest hardware" so give us money now and we'll gladly upgrade you...

So maybe Apple is setting up Aperture to drive their pro hardware again, when both are ready.
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I agree with what you say here. When I tried the Aperture demo the performance on my equipment was OK but not much more. Things were not axactly fast and the Shadows and Highlights slider in particular was really slow and only moved in fits and starts.

The Lightroom of the time ran a lot more smoothly and I qualified for the free copy as a paid up Rawshooter owner so that is where I have stayed and am on the latest version, I also am looking at the LR3 beta .

The problem for me if Ap 3 turns out to be a must have, is that I understand that all the editing I have done done will not be transferrable from LR.

That is a show stopper for me. I am not prepared to repeat all the work I have put into my images. I also doubt that either of the programs will be so superior to the other that established users will go to the effort of switching unless it can be made reasonably easy in terms of time to do it.
I think that the longer the wait for AP3 the more this will be the case.
 
photogs everywhere should stop complaining when the update will come, and start thinking about if it does, what cool apps could we design to put on the iPad to make it a cool, pro display and shooting device. The tethering, display, blogging, and other on the fly editing possibilities are almost endless.

Aperture 2 works great for me. Any update would be nice but I'm not losing any sleep.

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Sure, and Windows XP works just fine as well. But the world moves on and the added features and performance boosts of Bibble, Capture One, Lightroom, etc... will make Aperture look and feel underpowered, old and irrelevant.

Furthermore, there are enough users of Aperture experiencing glitches and graphic corruption with 2.14 and Snow Leopard that have forced users to revert to the old OS. This is regressive. The 2.1.4 release seems like a quick patch fix for the "under the hood" Snow Leopard changes. Certain OpenGL issues and OpenCL issues exist for users with graphics cards, further compounded by the fact that previous Apple Intel computers do not support the new CL code. At least, this is what I have gathered from my internet reading on various developer and software sites in the past several months. While this may seem a crude reference, I have seen Aperture perform miserably on 2 of 3 machines with the Snow Leopard OS compared to Leopard OS. On the Apple Discussion forums, the most widely read message is the one titled 2.1.4 + Snow Leopard Problems (tens of thousands) Apparently, Apple is much too liberal with the minimum specifications required of systems running SL and Aperture. I have Aperture installed on an external disk with Leopard...no problems. I have Aperture cleanly installed on a brand new HD with Snow Leopard, no additional software or peripherals...the program runs horribly. (beach ball edits, graphics corruption)

How many users out there are using 2006/2007 intel machines without a hitch?
 
If you are using a late 2007 MacBook Pro, haul out your original install disk and run the hardware checker. You may find that your 8600GT GPU has an issue. These machines are still covered until they are 3 years beyond purchase. Requires a whole logic board exchange.

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I appreciate the advice. Actually, I have an iMac and have opened the thing for visual inspections to check all capacitors and voltages. I also have new RAM and new HD. I have run the hardware diagnostics, performed separate RAM checks and disk tests. Everything seems to work extremely well except Aperture. Under Leopard, no problems with the same version of Aperture (2.1.4). I have gone so far as to perform a completely clean install of SL and 2.1.4 on a new HD with no peripherals or additional software. NO fix. Thanks again.
 
Aperture 3 will not be released before the aperture 3 books are released in the ibookstore for the ipad.......LOL

Iemke
 
Alpha Doug said:
Not really dead. They just didn't want to pollute the intro of the iPad with extraneous stuff. I still expect to see the Aperture announcement within the next month or so.
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I agree also, I'm sure that the focus on the iPad and iPhone have taken away some developer time from Aperture... but imagine iPad companion software for Aperture. It could be really something.

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