Warning for those who buy D60s on Ebay or from private parties

[Dick Ginkowski]

Hate to sound like a lawyer...even though I play one in real life...

BUT...here is a quote from the Canon USA/Canon Canada warranty:

"THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT EXTEND TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THE ORIGINAL EOS CAMERA OR THE PERSON FOR WHOM IT WAS PURCHASED AS A GIFT..."

So, even if you pay for one in the box on E-Bay or from a private party, the bottom line is that you have purchased something for which there is no factory warranty.

 

[Theodore80476]

...The seller includes the original bill of sale (most legit ones do), then you tell the service centre it was a gift.

--
Theo

Where are we going?!!?....and what am I doing in this handbasket??!!

Hate to sound like a lawyer...even though I play one in real life...

OR THE PERSON FOR
WHOM IT WAS PURCHASED AS A GIFT..."

 

[Dick Ginkowski]

--
Theo

Where are we going?!!?....and what am I doing in this handbasket??!!

Hate to sound like a lawyer...even though I play one in real life...

OR THE PERSON FOR
WHOM IT WAS PURCHASED AS A GIFT..."

 

[Zero]

What you are suggesting is fraud.

...The seller includes the original bill of sale (most legit ones
do), then you tell the service centre it was a gift.

 

[warren prasek]

...fraud???? geez, chill out a bit! if you paid for it legitimately and the other person sold it virtually as soon as they got it, well... damn don't you think you're entitled to warranty???

sheesh... trust me there are many worse things going on in this world!

...The seller includes the original bill of sale (most legit ones
do), then you tell the service centre it was a gift.

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i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

 

[murphy]

...fraud???? geez, chill out a bit! if you paid for it legitimately
and the other person sold it virtually as soon as they got it,
well... damn don't you think you're entitled to warranty???

sheesh... trust me there are many worse things going on in this world!
i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

Yes, you are suggesting fraud. A crime.

I hope the Canon Warranty Police Action Task Force will come after you.

Murph

 

[Rheuter Cheng]

Chill-out people... why everyone has to be so pissed off?

Sigh...

 

[warren prasek]

...he was definitely tongue in cheek there... (sarcasm)

i hope! heh

Chill-out people... why everyone has to be so pissed off?

Sigh...

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i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

 

[Zero]

...fraud???? geez, chill out a bit! if you paid for it legitimately
and the other person sold it virtually as soon as they got it,
well... damn don't you think you're entitled to warranty???

I am chillin', perhaps you need to take some of your own advice.

No. You are not entitled to a warranty. You may try to cheat Canon into giving you one, but I sure as heck would not advertise that over the internet.

sheesh... trust me there are many worse things going on in this world!

Yes there are, but where do you draw the line? A lot of people are under the impression that a used item comes with a warranty - that is blatently false in this case as it is not transferrable. Canon may choose to look the other way, but they are not compelled to.

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Zero my hero

 

[warren prasek]

..i'm not out to buy a d60 right now, and if i did i would probably get it direct from a retailer, more to avoid getting scammed and yes to guarantee i get a valid warranty, but i'm not gonna judge these other people for such an absurdly minor infarcation of the law... sheesh!

i guess you think people should be booked for jaywalking too? i've got better things to worry about, personally.

you dont think virtually every corporation out there will try to screw the consumer every chance they get? i hardly consider this much of a "crime". try reporting someone to the fraud squad for this sort of ILLEGAL behaviour and see how much muffled laughter you get down the phone line...

...fraud???? geez, chill out a bit! if you paid for it legitimately
and the other person sold it virtually as soon as they got it,
well... damn don't you think you're entitled to warranty???

I am chillin', perhaps you need to take some of your own advice.

No. You are not entitled to a warranty. You may try to cheat
Canon into giving you one, but I sure as heck would not advertise
that over the internet.

sheesh... trust me there are many worse things going on in this world!

Yes there are, but where do you draw the line? A lot of people are
under the impression that a used item comes with a warranty - that
is blatently false in this case as it is not transferrable. Canon
may choose to look the other way, but they are not compelled to.

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Zero my hero

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i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

 

[Zero]

..i'm not out to buy a d60 right now, and if i did i would probably
get it direct from a retailer, more to avoid getting scammed and
yes to guarantee i get a valid warranty, but i'm not gonna judge
these other people for such an absurdly minor infarcation of the
law... sheesh!

So why judge me so harshly for pointing out the facts.

i guess you think people should be booked for jaywalking too? i've
got better things to worry about, personally.

In fact, people do get fined for jaywalking in certain parts of the world. I guess flaming me is considered a better thing to do.

you dont think virtually every corporation out there will try to
screw the consumer every chance they get? i hardly consider this
much of a "crime". try reporting someone to the fraud squad for
this sort of ILLEGAL behaviour and see how much muffled laughter
you get down the phone line...

I'm not saying Canon is out to screw you or anyone. In fact I commend them for "looking the other way". Read what I said: they are servicing 2nd hand goods as a favour and good customer relations - they are not compelled to do so. For someone to come out and post a way to get around the policy is stupid - that is why I was harsh in my initial post.
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Zero my hero

 

[warren prasek]

well if you consider that flaming, you have a much lower tolerance than i do! i don't believe at any time i was anything but civil... ok i said "chill out" but really... i didnt swear or verbally abuse anyone! did I?

let's get serious, of course it's technically possible to get booked for jaywalking, but are you suggesting people who do this are bad, or lawbreakers? it's such a minor thing most people simply don't worry about it! i mean, really... next you'll say we shouldn't be taping TV programmes onto video because we are infringing copyright. heh.

but anyway back to the point... you commend canon for looking the other way, then condemn people who buy a virtually brand-new product and then want to get the balance of warranty. i simply don't see that as being wrong! and obviously neither do canon? its like with grey market items... the company should cut the extremely lucrative consumers a bit of slack here...

..i'm not out to buy a d60 right now, and if i did i would probably
get it direct from a retailer, more to avoid getting scammed and
yes to guarantee i get a valid warranty, but i'm not gonna judge
these other people for such an absurdly minor infarcation of the
law... sheesh!

So why judge me so harshly for pointing out the facts.

i guess you think people should be booked for jaywalking too? i've
got better things to worry about, personally.

In fact, people do get fined for jaywalking in certain parts of the
world. I guess flaming me is considered a better thing to do.

you dont think virtually every corporation out there will try to
screw the consumer every chance they get? i hardly consider this
much of a "crime". try reporting someone to the fraud squad for
this sort of ILLEGAL behaviour and see how much muffled laughter
you get down the phone line...

I'm not saying Canon is out to screw you or anyone. In fact I
commend them for "looking the other way". Read what I said: they
are servicing 2nd hand goods as a favour and good customer
relations - they are not compelled to do so. For someone to come
out and post a way to get around the policy is stupid - that is why
I was harsh in my initial post.
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Zero my hero

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i was gonna type something witty here but then i changed my mind.

 

[Ian S]

Hey - I live in one of those places!

I got caught for breeding mosquitoes too...
--
Ian S
http://www.rainpalm.com

 

[Tom Melanson]

Hate to sound like a lawyer...even though I play one in real life...

BUT...here is a quote from the Canon USA/Canon Canada warranty:

"THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT EXTEND TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THE
ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THE ORIGINAL EOS CAMERA OR THE PERSON FOR
WHOM IT WAS PURCHASED AS A GIFT..."

So, even if you pay for one in the box on E-Bay or from a private
party, the bottom line is that you have purchased something for
which there is no factory warranty.

Wheel that selects white balance operated, but balance stuck in AWB and would not move. Canon turned it around in a week, though I did have some help from my dealer's factory rep who hand carried it to Canon repair.
A new model, this complicated, begs for a warantee.
Tom
Tom
Tom
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D60, Sigma 14/2.8, Canon 16-35/2.8L, 50.1.4,
28-70/2.8L, 85/1.2L, 70-200 IS USM

 

[Swamp Duck]

I don't know about anyone else, but I bought my D60 as a "gift"...to myself

Hate to sound like a lawyer...even though I play one in real life...

BUT...here is a quote from the Canon USA/Canon Canada warranty:

"THIS LIMITED WARRANTY SHALL NOT EXTEND TO ANYONE OTHER THAN THE
ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THE ORIGINAL EOS CAMERA OR THE PERSON FOR
WHOM IT WAS PURCHASED AS A GIFT..."

 

[Jay Bean]

You are in your local camera store. The clerk drops some money on the floor as he walks past you. You pick it up. While doing so the clerk turns around and sees you picking it up. Do you:

a) Tell him you dropped the money, that it is yours, and keep it?

or

b) Tell him he dropped the money and return it to him.

Have a nice day

 

[Dick Ginkowski]

The issue is that a warranty creates certain legal rights and obligations.

As a matter of practice Canon USA and Canon Canada have been more gracious than they are legally obligated to be, i.e., by servicing grey market goods. The point is that in the absence of a valid warranty they do not HAVE to be and could change their mind tomorrow and the owner has no legal recourse.

Enough said.

 

[Peter Gregg]

You can buy an item on Ebay from a dealer and have the full factory warranty. There are camera stores selling on Ebay besides private auctions. I have seen stores like Canoga, Cameta, Delta International selling items new on Ebay.

Pete

 

[Gordon Berg]

I'm not at all sure that this falls into the area of fraud. For instance, manufacturers have many times listed conditions which 'void' the warrantee, only to have courts tell them they cannot escape merely because they said something voided a warranttee. There has been a lot of litigation regarding this and while I'm not at all expert on it, I know that it's not always enough for a manufacturer to list a condition that voids a warranttee. In this case, it may be established that Canon would not be forced to honor a warranttee on a resold camera but I can't imagine it's fraud to attempt to get them to do it as long as it's within the warranttee period of the original sale. It's certainly self serving of Canon to try to escape repairing cameras that prove defective within the warranttee period so I wouldn't even say it was dishonest to try to get them to do it... treating their statement as having no significant force.

...The seller includes the original bill of sale (most legit ones
do), then you tell the service centre it was a gift.

 

[elmo]

Blanket statements about eeee-vil big business are a disservice to us all.

you dont think virtually every corporation out there will try to
screw the consumer every chance they get?