sRGB and wide gamut monitor questions

[cspringer]

I can't really add anymore than what has been said...a Wide Gamut monitor will not display sRGB images correctly on non color aware programs (desktop, IE, etc.) and does not get any closer using an sRGB profile. I think you might be missing the fact that a WG monitor does not recognize sRGB (unless it gives you that option in the OSD menu). MS Color Management program and using an sRGB profile does not fix this issue either.
If you want a WG monitor make sure that you can switch between WG mode and sRGB.

You can also use your video card settings to get close to sRGB and tone down those radioactive colors by adjusting the hue but this is not for photo editing (I did this before sending my 3007 back). You will not have a correct calibrated file if you make adjustments to the video card.

True, but using Srgb and the Srgb profile will get you much closer to what it will look like for other people on the web.

Don't care to much, the majority doesn't have a calibrated monitor anywy and try to get the best output you can. It will never look the way it does on your monitor and then on another, simple as that.

The problem is...It will never look the same on "your" monitor between color aware and non color aware programs and we are not talking about a slight difference that you can live with. Forget about comparing it to a 2nd monitor. You just have to trust us on this. We have been through it and everything you say makes sense on sRGB monitors...but does not apply to wide gamut monitors.

Again, the monitor is using an sRGB profile. The left is my desktop and the right is Photoshop. All non color aware apps would look the same.

I hope this might clear things up a bit.



Even their advertising shows the radioactive colors.

 

[Taraboom]

As for yourself, you may want to use Firefox as your web browser (instead of IE) and activate the color management. That way you will see your images correctly.

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Chandra

I apologize for jumping in the middle of discussion. Can you please mention how to activate color management in FireFox. The only color related setting I can find in"options" is "use system colors". Or it is Firefox 3.0 that had color management?
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Pavel

 

[sankos]

The easiest way is to install this add-on:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6891

Mind you, I think Firefox doesn't read icm's version 4, so you'll be better off with making version 2 profiles for your monitor.
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[Taraboom]

Thank you. Pavel

The easiest way is to install this add-on:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6891

Mind you, I think Firefox doesn't read icm's version 4, so you'll be better off with making version 2 profiles for your monitor.
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Pavel

 

[andrewD2]

Even their advertising shows the radioactive colors.

How can their advertising show "radioactive colours"?

They are posting the image in sRGB and as such the colours can not be outside that gamut.

Anything you see as "radioactive" is the fault of the application you are viewing it in. Not the fault of the screen and certainly not the fault of an sRGB advert.

If the application takes the output profile for the monitor into account then sRGB yellow would then be mapped to something less than full saturation on a wide gamut screen.

Yes, a wide gamut screen can show the very saturated colours of aRGB. Thats the whole point. Why is this a problem for you? You shouldn't see these colours if you want to work in sRGB with a colour managed workflow.

If you are now commenting on this advertising image on a standard gamut monitor your comment is rather bizarre, if you think about it.

Andrew

 

[David Mac]

http://blog.patyuen.com/2009/07/04/firefox-35-and-color-management/

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Dave
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[Phill Brannon]

The latest Firefox release version is 3.5.5 and it's not fully color aware. It will only support ICC version 2 profiles. The last release version to support version 2 and version 4 profiles is 3.0.15. Below is a release note from Mozilla on Firefox 3.5.5

Firefox 3.5 will only support color profiles as specified by ICC v2, later versions will add support for ICC v4 (see bug 463221) From what I've read on the Mozilla site, they have little interest in correcting this problem. The say it will be addressed in a later release, but no idea when. I use version 3.0.15 which is fully color aware, 'version 2 & 4 profiles'. It has to be enabled in about:config, but that's very simple to do.

http://blog.patyuen.com/2009/07/04/firefox-35-and-color-management/

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Dave
CP5700 / D40

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[Phill Brannon]

In the link David posted if you read all of it, at the very bottom he does say 3.5 only supports ICC Version 2 profiles. The problem I have with that blog, the guy leaves the impression that 3.5 is Fully Color Aware , which isn't the case by a long shot. Only after reading all the way to the bottom, do you get the true story. This should have been included when he was singing the praises of 3.5 being color aware, which to me and most here means just that, Color Aware , not partially color aware, which is a joke.

The latest Firefox release version is 3.5.5 and it's not fully color aware. It will only support ICC version 2 profiles. The last release version to support version 2 and version 4 profiles is 3.0.15. Below is a release note from Mozilla on Firefox 3.5.5

Firefox 3.5 will only support color profiles as specified by ICC v2, later versions will add support for ICC v4 (see bug 463221) From what I've read on the Mozilla site, they have little interest in correcting this problem. The say it will be addressed in a later release, but no idea when. I use version 3.0.15 which is fully color aware, 'version 2 & 4 profiles'. It has to be enabled in about:config, but that's very simple to do.

http://blog.patyuen.com/2009/07/04/firefox-35-and-color-management/

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Dave
CP5700 / D40

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[Svein Skogen]

Now in windows 7 and a plug-in for windows xp let's you use different profiles for different applications/monitors.

Where did you find this info on per-application profiles?

I'm very interested in this.

Svein
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[Taraboom]

Finally got my Firefox up to the scratch as far as color management goes (many thanks to everybody who shared their knowledge).

It came down to re-installing Firefox 3.5, installing 3.08, then installing color management plug in for 3.0 version and bingo.

Verification page is here
http://www.color.org/version4html.xalter

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Pavel