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http://43rumors.com/ft4-fuji-joins-microfourthirds/

Fuji makes really good sensors. This makes sense since they can take advantage of the lenses and existing support for the platform to sell bodies.

I hope it is true. The rumor that Olympus has been testing Fuji sensors for a possible replacement for the Panasonic sensor has been circulating for a long time.
 
I will welcome every camera added to an 4/3 or m4/3 format. A new one will reinforce the 4/3 format that many think that have no place.

A new EVIL camera is an another step forward for mirror less cameras that will replace in time the intermediate supper zooms cameras and the low DSLRs.
I hope it will be good for Olympus also.
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Could be a very good thing.

If we could find the level of IQ that was found in the S3 / S5 cameras from 2-3 years ago, that would indeed be very nice, and help 4/3 go forward.

Now i don't really believe in such a rumor, sadly. Fuji has never done anything in 4/3, and except supplying a sensor i don't see them making a complete camera to compete with the likes of Olympus and Panasonic...

Oh well, we'll see...

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Sounds pretty real to me, and makes sense considering the success of M43 so far. Looking forward to it. I still like the way the colors look in my 3mp Fuji "super ccd" S5000.

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Fuji would be a great addition to the µ4/3 participants--for both bodies and lenses--but as usual I'll take this with a grain of salt. I'm also holding a glimmer of hope for Pentax joining the fun.

Cheers,

Rick
 
That sounds way better than revamping the E-1.
 
I wonder if this is just wishful thinking for Fuji sensor fans (and I'm a fan).

First off, Fuji never made their own DSLR bodies did they? Nikon provided the basic bodies right? Then Fuji padded Nikon's pocket in the form of lens sales. I assume they were under contract with Nikon for the use of their bodies and the Nikon mount. This was not financially feasible I'm guessing due to death of the S series DSLRs. No wonder, they didn't make any off lenses, flashes, or accessories.

If Fuji doesn't want to make lenses, micro4/3rds makes sense. They don't have to buy rights from Olympus because 4/3rds is a non-proprietary lens mount/sensor specification, but Fuji could make their own lenses without agreement trouble (which might have come up with the Nikon relationship and their proprietary mount). Fuji never had FF offerings, so they have developed a fan base of their mid sized sensors. Another plus. Additionally, technology has probably improved on their S5 sensor. If they have continued development, then they could really have something to offer.

But, will they take the risk of getting into a new format just after exiting a format they may have found to be unprofitable? It seems if they don't make lenses and accessories with their body, then they will still be padding the pockets of other companies as they did with Nikon.

I hope they do one of two things. Either make a kicking MicroFT EVIL with a great sensor and Fuji kit lens. Noise comparable to the E-P1 or better while retaining the DR and color they are loved for. Or, I hope they jump into bed with Olympus and provide great sensors for the higher end E-FT (or what ever it will be called).

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Fuji has always made really good stuff, they have just had a limited product offering for specialized photography. The S series has a good following for the way it portrays skin tones and handles noise.

Fuji is an original member of the 4/3 consortium, but they have never produced a product. I think they have been waiting for technology to develop and a market to grow. Sales of the EP-1 have gotten the attention of a lot of manufacturers.

My hope is that Olympus works out a deal to see a Fuji sensor in the E-x or E-xx line of cameras. Panasonic sensors may work for the E-xxx line, but they are not up to expectations for the "pro" market. Improvements need to be made somewhere.
 
I'll hold up their old high-end "prosumer" cameras (e.g., S9100) as an indication they're up to the task. (Unless they've laid off all their old design staff.) Those were very nice cameras, and built like tanks.

I'm still skeptical, but like the idea.

Cheers,

Rick
 
... and Fuji is working on next gen sensors (on the Foveon principle but more efficient). Would love to see this coming on olympus bodies :
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/HONSHI/20061115/123642/

More generally Panasonic and Olympus seems to be less and less close with time (they do not seem to cooperate that much for example for M4/3 lenses since they put the same on market). The 12 MP Pana sensor is becoming quite old now, and while not being bad was not class leading either.

Maybe Olympus is evaluating new sources for their sensors because they absolutly need a class leading sensor because of the 4/3 sensor size (little) handicap ? Fuji would make sense for Olympus and M4/3 or 4/3 would probably make sense for Fuji

Also it seems like dpreview have always been very enthusiastic and positive on M4/3. Maybe they know more things than all of us (ie great things to come)

Just my 2 cents
 
Marc,

I think this would be less of a financial risk for Fuji than coming out with another S camera where most of the components were sourced from Nikon. They need to re-enter the Pro enthusiast market at some level and it might as well be 4/3rds. They could develope a full size dslr but thats a tough market right now and they would be better off to develope a customer base in 4/3rds. JMHO.

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Paul
 
Paul Rabideaux said:
Marc,

I think this would be less of a financial risk for Fuji than coming out with another S camera where most of the components were sourced from Nikon. They need to re-enter the Pro enthusiast market at some level and it might as well be 4/3rds. They could develope a full size dslr but thats a tough market right now and they would be better off to develope a customer base in 4/3rds. JMHO.
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Mmm... Well considered. Maybe a nice utopy, but a 4/3 sensor with nikon electronics ??? Give me that anytime !!

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That is also an interesting thought. We'll see what happens. A Nikon 4/3rds with a Fuji sensor. Wouldn't that be something.
BTW. Nice pictures of the wife at Normandy.

Paul
 
The chance that Fuji will be providing sensors to Olympus for E-x line is probably pretty small, but we can hope. Fuji and Olympus both chose to march to their own beat which makes them a good fit in some ways. The Fuji EXR sensor and the statements from Olympus that they will not be pushing to lead the MP race, but concentrate on improving image quality seem to go hand in hand.
 
Sensor shift IS...so it is at least a possibility for me if I ever go that route. The AF is the only other deal breaker. It will have to be good.
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Looks like 43rumors is moving the Fuji rumor up to their level 5 rating (highest).

Fuji to produce m4/3 and 4/3 products.

Does not mean they will be selling sensors to anyone, but we can hope. Panasonic needs some competition to motivate them a little.

I would guess that the reason the E-620 received the same sensor and features as the E-30 is that the E-x/E-xx line is getting ready for a new sensor with improved systems.

Can Fuji EXR sensors support video?

Maybe a 16MP EXR sensor that can be switched over to capture 8MP images using the HDR mode or high-ISO mode....
 
Maybe Fuji shall be the source of the sensor for the new E-5?! We can only hope... The E-5 needs to be a significant advance over the E-30/E-3 or it shall be a failure. Since the E-30 holds up the midrange pretty good, Oly needs to swing for the fences again. Give us E-620 owners something to lust over again, as in the OM-4Ti days!
 
That would be a good thing, even if the EXR sensor was slightly dissappointing in their latest compact cameras, since it didn't quite fulfil expectations based on the very low noise level of the Finepix F10/11/30/31/40. In Four Thirds size, the EXR technology could probably shine, though.

And if the sensor is really good, we'd like Olympus to put it in their coming DSLRs, of course...

By the way, when I hear EXR, I think pixel binning. Why not simply use the existing EXR pixel pitch, creating a Four Thirds sensor with something like 50 MP, and offering a "high res" (50 MP) mode alongside a pixel-binned, low-noise "standard mode" (12.5 MP)? We really could put our lenses to the test that way ;-)

Cheers,
Robert
 
It's sound logical to me.

fuji, sad that thayer senzor are specific and need specific picture adjustment, so you can't use just the "senzor". You need to use thayer picture procesing procesor too. And that simply imposible no brand will do that...

Why thay choese nikon for DSLR and not 4/3, lets be honest AF senzor is better, better name, more lenses &&& I can't realy wonder about the choese to by a Nikon body and implement fuji senzor/procesor in it. Than to buy 4/3 body...

But with m4/3 it's a whole new storie, thay don't need to buy a body ... becouse thay don't need a AF senzor, mirror flipping mechanizm and all the other stuff thay never maked.

Nikon/Canon isn't offering anything like m4/3 atm, so ofcorse thayer only choese is to join m4/3 (yah samsung is doing NX but well there are less popular than m4/3 => m4/3 1 choese).

So I realy realy doupt you will ever see a 4/3 DSLR with fuji senzor, but I whouldn't wonder if fuji make m4/3 bodies ;).
 
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