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I was a bit skeptical ordering a "refurb" camera, but the place i ordered it from offered 14 days return if i didnt like it so i figured id give one a try. Today it arrived. Box is marked refurb. All manuals, strap, battery, charger, cords, etc are new as far as I can tell. Camera looks perfect, perhaps a few tiny marks on the plastic shield for the display.

Now for the confusing/shocking part... when i asked about how many shutter counts they typically have, i was told that it could be really any number but nothing would be over 2000 ever. Actually that was when i asked about a d200, i guess D300's would be even lower. So i took a photo and checked the exif data... Was very suprised to find it was Shutter Release #6 !! The file naming on the new card though is reading around DSC_4090 or so.. Im a bit confused by the corelation between the numbers. Im also curious if anyone knows if Nikon resets the Exif count data after a "refurb" or could this really only have had 6 shots on it??? The salesman did tell me that someone called him last week to say theirs only had 2. I have to wonder if those shots are the test shots after the refurb or the total shots ever.
 
Sound reset, to be honest. Hey as long as it works, right?
stang8s said:
I was a bit skeptical ordering a "refurb" camera, but the place i ordered it from offered 14 days return if i didnt like it so i figured id give one a try. Today it arrived. Box is marked refurb. All manuals, strap, battery, charger, cords, etc are new as far as I can tell. Camera looks perfect, perhaps a few tiny marks on the plastic shield for the display.

Now for the confusing/shocking part... when i asked about how many shutter counts they typically have, i was told that it could be really any number but nothing would be over 2000 ever. Actually that was when i asked about a d200, i guess D300's would be even lower. So i took a photo and checked the exif data... Was very suprised to find it was Shutter Release #6 !! The file naming on the new card though is reading around DSC_4090 or so.. Im a bit confused by the corelation between the numbers. Im also curious if anyone knows if Nikon resets the Exif count data after a "refurb" or could this really only have had 6 shots on it??? The salesman did tell me that someone called him last week to say theirs only had 2. I have to wonder if those shots are the test shots after the refurb or the total shots ever.
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Yea more of a curiousity thing. They say a refurb was never owned by any customer. They are demo/salesman models or used at trade shows in a display case or something. So it is possible.
 
I have seen cards that were used on other cameras report the wrong frame numbers in the new camera.

Also, 4,000 shots is nothing I put that on my new D700 in 2-3 weeks.....

If the camera works flawlessly, with great metering, exposure, etc. I would count that as a plus and keep the camera.
 
The card was brand new out of a sealed package and i formated it when i put it in the camera for the 1st time.
 
Yea im debating if the Mac warranty is worth getting. They give you a 90 day from Nikon and they extend it to 1 year thru them. They offered me a 3 year Mac for $119 more. Really only 2 years since they are already giving 1. They said it includes 3 cleanings, maybe worthwhile just for that, dunno.
 
stang8s said:
Yea more of a curiousity thing. They say a refurb was never owned by any customer. They are demo/salesman models or used at trade shows in a display case or something. So it is possible.
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I've heard that before and - considering the volume of cameras and lenses that Cameta evidently sells - I find this hard to believe. Not that there'd be anything wrong with a camera returned by someone who had buyer's remorse or had a problem with it and it's now fixed, I just am skeptical that there are so many demo models of all those refurbs sold by Cameta.
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If custom setting D6 file number sequence is set to "ON" in the camera it will name the next file one higher than whatever the image number is on the card that is in the camera.

If someone used a CF card with image DSC_4090 to test the camera, your next image would be DSC_4091 even if you used a new a blank CF card and the shutter count was 6.

To get my shutter count to match my file numbers I did the following:

1. Reset the file numbers to 0. It's under the Custom setting D6.

2. Inserted a blank CF card and shot one one image.

3. Inserted the CF card in my computer and used Opanda to find the actual shutter count.

4. Renamed the image to same number as the shutter count.

If Opanda shows shutter count as 6, I would rename the file DSC_0006.jpg and the next image shot will be DSC_0007.

This sequence will continue unless you reset it to 0 again in the camera or use a different CF card with existing files on it.
 
My Cameta demo unit came with 31 (per Opanda) clicks on it and it is/was absolutely spotless. Nary a smudge, scratch or dent when it got here.

I believe I am correct in thinking that a "refurb" is a camera that has been sold and then returned for whatever reason and has since been checked out and/or repaired (and this is a big plus over a straight new camera buy) before being offered for sale again . The "Demo" units have never been sold, but may have been used by reps for varying periods of time. This according to Cameta.

The refurb units could have any shutter count, whereas the demo units are "usually" low shutter count cameras. However, I did read of one unhappy Cameta customer that found his recently purchased refurb D300 had a little over 40k clicks on it. I took that account to be suspect, but...

I am very pleased with having received a very low shutter count body to say the least, because it really is a crapshoot when there are no guarantees as to total shutter count you may receive when ordering demo/refurb units from Cameta. Regards, Jim
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yes that is what read 6
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I find the 'never owned' thing hard to believe. As far as I know, refurbished simply means it was repaired by the OEM and comes with some sort of warranty.

I just wrote about my first D300 which I returned after taking about 1,000 shots. I'm sure it was repaired and resold as Refurbished.
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Hmmmm.. I puchased my DEMO D300 in Nov and... with 6 shutter counts.. and a file number of DSC_2896. The camera came in PRISTINE CONSITION and is working great . So , I will research this a little more BUT I AM Not worried At all . Very satisfied with Cameta . Picked it up on auction at a net of $1087....$1187 minus paypay coupon code of $100=$1087 plus shipping . I also purchased a 18-105VR DX from them also IN PRISTINE CONDITION
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My Cameta demo unit came with 31 (per Opanda) clicks on it and it is/was absolutely spotless. Nary a smudge, scratch or dent when it got here.

I believe I am correct in thinking that a "refurb" is a camera that has been sold and then returned for whatever reason and has since been checked out and/or repaired (and this is a big plus over a straight new camera buy) before being offered for sale again . The "Demo" units have never been sold, but may have been used by reps for varying periods of time. This according to Cameta.

The refurb units could have any shutter count, whereas the demo units are "usually" low shutter count cameras. However, I did read of one unhappy Cameta customer that found his recently purchased refurb D300 had a little over 40k clicks on it. I took that account to be suspect, but...

I am very pleased with having received a very low shutter count body to say the least, because it really is a crapshoot when there are no guarantees as to total shutter count you may receive when ordering demo/refurb units from Cameta. Regards, Jim
stang8s said:
yes that is what read 6
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Wow thats a great price. I paid a bit more then that but i didnt go thru ebay. I also got 2 Demo lenses as well. Both prestine condition.
 
Thanks bwigg . Your info helped a lot . Now my image file and Opanda shutter count match !
bwigg said:
If custom setting D6 file number sequence is set to "ON" in the camera it will name the next file one higher than whatever the image number is on the card that is in the camera.

If someone used a CF card with image DSC_4090 to test the camera, your next image would be DSC_4091 even if you used a new a blank CF card and the shutter count was 6.

To get my shutter count to match my file numbers I did the following:

1. Reset the file numbers to 0. It's under the Custom setting D6.

2. Inserted a blank CF card and shot one one image.

3. Inserted the CF card in my computer and used Opanda to find the actual shutter count.

4. Renamed the image to same number as the shutter count.

If Opanda shows shutter count as 6, I would rename the file DSC_0006.jpg and the next image shot will be DSC_0007.

This sequence will continue unless you reset it to 0 again in the camera or use a different CF card with existing files on it.
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If it was a demo in the shop and they set it to jpg small and basic on fast continuous it'll take 300 shots per minute. Thats 18000 per hour.

I am sure Nikon wil have tested that.

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