Images from China (EOS D30/1D)

Michael, very wonderful shots. I also shoot with a 1D, and i have been looking for sample shots that are NOT sports related. Everyone seems to 'show off' their 1D with sports shots! I want to see the 'tonal' range of the 1D is more 'artistic' shots and yours did it for me.

ONE observation though... I am on my second 1D now, because the first one suffered from a problem where many has complained about over in robgalbraith.com. And when i looked at your photos, i can't help but noticing too... that your shots seem to be tilted to the right. Have you noticed?

eg:

second trip: #26 or #8... and many more... am i over-sensitive? my new 1D has solved this prob...

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WSLam
 
'Tilted to the right" - just stared myself crazy trying to see it - but then again I am biazed and see what I see. Here is the first image in question:



Not sure if I can see it ???

Anybody else ?

And yes you are right with the sports photo's - I mean great but what ever happend to more artistic kind of photography we used to do on B&W - where composition and lighting was important ( I not trying to put down sport photography - it is very hard to do very well) - the same with colour photography versus B&W - colour is hard to do correct - very few people master it - I am not one of the few

Michael
Michael, very wonderful shots. I also shoot with a 1D, and i have
been looking for sample shots that are NOT sports related. Everyone
seems to 'show off' their 1D with sports shots! I want to see the
'tonal' range of the 1D is more 'artistic' shots and yours did it
for me.

ONE observation though... I am on my second 1D now, because the
first one suffered from a problem where many has complained about
over in robgalbraith.com. And when i looked at your photos, i can't
help but noticing too... that your shots seem to be tilted to the
right. Have you noticed?

eg:
second trip: #26 or #8... and many more... am i over-sensitive? my
new 1D has solved this prob...

--
WSLam
 
Hi Michael, yet another question (that's what you get for posting such superb work).

How did you process the images to B&W? I'm guessing it was with the channel mixer, and if so, did you batch process them (and if so, do you remember your settings), or did you just convert them one at a time? Thanks a lot for answering these questions. Great tones in the pics, like good film work.

And no, unfortunatly I don't have any connections for you, but recommend you make a portfolio of your favorites and show them to a photo rep and/or gallery owner, and make a comp card and mail it to tasteful travel magazines.
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
 
randall,

no problem - I enjoy discussing this - not best practice unfortunately ...

No batch processing - each image in turn - but like this image and the others in the same series they were all done in the same fashion:



I think I had 60%; 10% green and 30 % blue - and remembered it for the next in the series.

I usually start with 33 % on each chanel and then trying each in turn

If the image was badly exposed is was a problem - but the correct exposed seemed to work out by experientmenting. This image and the series were really nicely exposed - there was a dust storm on Tian'anmen square in Beijing and it gave a nice even light ....

Sorry - not much help - suggest you take a couple of correct exposed and play around. D-SLR is just the way to go - I am totally won over - no more messy & smelly darkroom

Michael
How did you process the images to B&W? I'm guessing it was with
the channel mixer, and if so, did you batch process them (and if
so, do you remember your settings), or did you just convert them
one at a time? Thanks a lot for answering these questions. Great
tones in the pics, like good film work.

And no, unfortunatly I don't have any connections for you, but
recommend you make a portfolio of your favorites and show them to a
photo rep and/or gallery owner, and make a comp card and mail it to
tasteful travel magazines.
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
 
Hi Michael,
No this is not the image i was referring to.
Here:
http://www.guishen.com/china-diaries/china-04-2002/pages/page-26.htm

http://www.guishen.com/china-diaries/china-04-2002/pages/page-27.htm (look at how the bkg horizontal line is tilted)

http://www.guishen.com/china-diaries/china-04-2002/pages/page-34.htm (again tilted, look at the roof tops of all the cars)
etc etc.
take a look at this thread:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=18&t=000858

it is a VERY odd problem and i never figured out why it happened, neither did Canon HK who took my complaint seriously.

It is easy to do the test. It is subtle, mine had a 1.3 degree shift.

ws
Not sure if I can see it ???

Anybody else ?

And yes you are right with the sports photo's - I mean great but
what ever happend to more artistic kind of photography we used to
do on B&W - where composition and lighting was important ( I not
trying to put down sport photography - it is very hard to do very
well) - the same with colour photography versus B&W - colour is
hard to do correct - very few people master it - I am not one of
the few

Michael
Michael, very wonderful shots. I also shoot with a 1D, and i have
been looking for sample shots that are NOT sports related. Everyone
seems to 'show off' their 1D with sports shots! I want to see the
'tonal' range of the 1D is more 'artistic' shots and yours did it
for me.

ONE observation though... I am on my second 1D now, because the
first one suffered from a problem where many has complained about
over in robgalbraith.com. And when i looked at your photos, i can't
help but noticing too... that your shots seem to be tilted to the
right. Have you noticed?

eg:
second trip: #26 or #8... and many more... am i over-sensitive? my
new 1D has solved this prob...

--
WSLam
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WSLam
 
This'll be all, I swear.

I'm wondering how you were able to get the up-close candid shots in focus on your first trip with the notoriously bad AF of the D30? Or did you pre-focus using manual (easy to do with a 20mm lens I guess). Thanks again!
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
 
Great shots indeed. Some pictures are a bit too contrasty to my taste but I probably wouldn't do better.

Great work Michael. You're an example.

Kind regards from Belgium,
Frank Vandenberghe
 
Bill:

Technically yes, some of the shots are underexposed.

I think that the perfectly exposed photo is not always the
most appealing one.

I like this style of photography, especially given the subject
matter. Just like bright colors would convey excitement or
blurs would convey motion, this style hides a lot of other
stuff that would distract from the main subject and theme.

PC.
billtoo
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
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billtoo

http://www.pbase.com/billtoo
 
Randall,

I am enjoying the exchange - makes a difference to some of the other postings ... ;-)

On the first trip I relied on the autofous - kind of a mistake - and even when I did a close up look on LCD it was hard to see how much in/out of focus some of the images were - but I kept taking pictures and there were 2 -3 really good and some others ok ... and some out of focus, some with the composition/exposure all wrong ( I had the camera around my neck in the market place I was shooting and was taking images without really trying to raise the camera to my eye and disturb the mood)

On the second trip I used the 70 -200 a lot and was at a distance (kind of cheating I think) - next time I want to go back to the 16-35mm and get close and try and use the camera infront of my face and see what happens - wide angels gives more intensity in the image - it is alos hard because often you cannot crop out distubances in the background !

Some of the great street photographers say that you should force yourself to just walk in, bring the camera up - and if people don't want you too take pictures then don't but if not, be the invisible participent- often people really don't care or notice - that is why when you look at the great masters of street photography (not news photography) that they often just use wide angle lenses and are indeed the invisible participants.

I have just bought book called 'Bystanders - the history of street photography' - and it is very intersting collection of images and a disection of street photograph and its history.

Michael
I'm wondering how you were able to get the up-close candid shots in
focus on your first trip with the notoriously bad AF of the D30?
Or did you pre-focus using manual (easy to do with a 20mm lens I
guess). Thanks again!
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
 
Thanks a lot Michael, it's very interesting to hear how you captured those shots. I'm especially intrigued by the idea of using a wide angle to shoot street scenes -- something I've never done.
I am enjoying the exchange - makes a difference to some of the
other postings ... ;-)

On the first trip I relied on the autofous - kind of a mistake -
and even when I did a close up look on LCD it was hard to see how
much in/out of focus some of the images were - but I kept taking
pictures and there were 2 -3 really good and some others ok ... and
some out of focus, some with the composition/exposure all wrong ( I
had the camera around my neck in the market place I was shooting
and was taking images without really trying to raise the camera to
my eye and disturb the mood)

On the second trip I used the 70 -200 a lot and was at a distance
(kind of cheating I think) - next time I want to go back to the
16-35mm and get close and try and use the camera infront of my face
and see what happens - wide angels gives more intensity in the
image - it is alos hard because often you cannot crop out
distubances in the background !

Some of the great street photographers say that you should force
yourself to just walk in, bring the camera up - and if people don't
want you too take pictures then don't but if not, be the invisible
participent- often people really don't care or notice - that is why
when you look at the great masters of street photography (not news
photography) that they often just use wide angle lenses and are
indeed the invisible participants.

I have just bought book called 'Bystanders - the history of street
photography' - and it is very intersting collection of images and a
disection of street photograph and its history.

Michael
I'm wondering how you were able to get the up-close candid shots in
focus on your first trip with the notoriously bad AF of the D30?
Or did you pre-focus using manual (easy to do with a 20mm lens I
guess). Thanks again!
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
 
Michael,

Your photos are very special. Four small typos on one page, just fyi:

http://www.guishen.com/china-diaries/china-04-2002/pages/page-33.htm

When we visited Xian we ofcourse had to try their locale specialties; the dumpling.

After 17 different dumpling entrés (should be entrées) it was time for the main course; more dumplings.

Not to mention the desert - sweat (should be sweet, I assume) dumplings (and a period is missing here)

Best,

Emil
 
Thanks Emil

I am sure there are many more like that !

One day I will sit down and learn to spell in some of the many languages I had to learn when I went to school (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, German, English, French, Latin, Italian) ...the life of a scandinavian school boy was tough in those days ....
Michael,

Your photos are very special. Four small typos on one page, just fyi:

http://www.guishen.com/china-diaries/china-04-2002/pages/page-33.htm

When we visited Xian we ofcourse had to try their locale
specialties; the dumpling.

After 17 different dumpling entrés (should be entrées) it was time
for the main course; more dumplings.

Not to mention the desert - sweat (should be sweet, I assume)
dumplings (and a period is missing here)

Best,

Emil
 
"I converted using Photoshop 6 - channel mixer "

could you please be more specific, because I relly like your B&W workflow!!!!!!!!!!!!

ax
thanks for the feedback.

I converted using Photoshop 6 - channel mixer

On the first trip I used the 20mm 2.8 alot - especially the close
up of people

My preference is still the 1D - better autofocus and metering !

Michael
Great photos! I esp. like the d30 B&W stuff, it is so rich and
filmlike!
How did you convert? What lenses did you use the most? If I were to
choose, I like the quality of the D30 shots over the 1D. I will be
doing a French photo expo next month for three weeks. I am bringing
a D60,
15-30 Sigma, 28-135 IS, 70-200 f4, a 1V body for chromes, a Toshiba
Libretto mini laptop for storage and review. All in a Lowpro
minitrekker. Fits
great, but I'll bet it will be heavy after a time.
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
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Andy C
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Greetz,

Ax
-D30
-28-105
-50 mm 1.8 mk2
 
Thanks - I appreciate the feedback

Thought it was time to starting taking pictures and sharing and not just talk about the technology ....

Michael
I know very little of workflow, raw, autofocus, etc.

But I know when I see good photos, very good photos.

Keep the good work, best wishes,

Juan Luis
my turn ...

images from two trips to China - first using EOS D30 and the second
using EOS 1D

http://www.guishen.com

Enjoy

Michael
 
maybe he meant "desert sweat" :)
if not, then note the double s in dessert (the sweet kind)

i
Michael,

Your photos are very special. Four small typos on one page, just fyi:

http://www.guishen.com/china-diaries/china-04-2002/pages/page-33.htm

When we visited Xian we ofcourse had to try their locale
specialties; the dumpling.

After 17 different dumpling entrés (should be entrées) it was time
for the main course; more dumplings.

Not to mention the desert - sweat (should be sweet, I assume)
dumplings (and a period is missing here)

Best,

Emil
 
1) layer-> new adjustment layer-> channel mixer ...
2) click okay
3) from the dialog box select 'monochrome'
4) experiment with the sliders (r,g,b) - should be around 100% in total
the trick is to figure out the channel settings - start with 33,33,33
5) image-> mode-> greyscale and select 'flattern' option
6) apply levels to adjust contrast

Michael
"I converted using Photoshop 6 - channel mixer "
could you please be more specific, because I relly like your B&W
workflow!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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