Canon 70-300 non is f/4-5.6

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Hey All,

Recently got my Canon eos 450 camera with kit lenses. I used my 70-300 over the weekend at my son’s football game and was quite disappointed with the quality of images taken. Have any of you got the same lens?? If so can you post some images so I can see what the lens is capable of doing. I must admit that I am new to DSLR and my techniques may be the cause of poor quality images. This is also a kit lens, so I guess that the images may be representative of the quality of the lens?? Please advise.

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Al Dee
 
There is not a non-IS 70-300, you must have the 75-300 which is a very poor lens. It's not a kit lens, but someone may have bundled it as one. Shooting sports is not easy and your technique could improve the photos. Also, you didn't state what the lighting was like. If it was not sunny then you would have problems. Are you shooting in full Manual or Av? What was your AF set at, should have used Ai-servo. If you're shooting in "sports" mode and expecting great shots then it's more the person behind the camera than the lens, even though that lens is probably the worst telephoto lens still produced by Canon.
 
When you refer to being dissapointed in the quality of the images, I am assuming they are fairly soft?

The 70-300mm lens isnt that great of a lens. I do not own it but my girlfriend used to, she used it 2 or 3 times and I used it once. It seems to perform best when on a tripod closed down to f/11. Something that cant be done while photographing sports. In most other situations the lens performs poorly, very slow AF, rarely actually locks onto the subject, very soft, very cheap build, looks cheap as well.

http://www.CherishtheMomentPhotography.net

 
Sorry mate!! Deleted all of them. When I purchased the Camera, I opted for the kit containing the 55-250 IS lens but the sales person told me that I would get better range from the 75-300. I think he was trying to get rid of them.
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Al Dee
 
Sorry mate!! Deleted all of them. When I purchased the Camera, I
opted for the kit containing the 55-250 IS lens but the sales person
told me that I would get better range from the 75-300. I think he
was trying to get rid of them.
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Al Dee
You will get better range from the 75-300, so he wasn't lying, but the 55-250IS is a much better lens. It's still not a very good sports lens because of the slower focusing and small aperture.
 
I often see some brilliant photos of cyclists (I think it's called panning) and wonder what type and brand of lens, not costing the earth, could produce such wonderful images.

Sorry about the vagueness!!

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Al Dee
 
Guys
then do you mind telling which lens is best for 450D in his situation.....
will you mind telling that....or giving some advise.....
instead of saying the lens he has is bad......
 
Guys
then do you mind telling which lens is best for 450D in his
situation.....
will you mind telling that....or giving some advise.....
instead of saying the lens he has is bad......
OK, bright light conditions:

decent- 70-300IS USM

better- 70-200 F4 IS or non-IS(you don't really need IS for sports, fast shutter speeds)
better- 100-400IS

The best zoom would be the 70-200 F2.8 (Canon or Sigma, but Canon better QC, slightly better optics, and higher resale value), which would also work for evening sports. You could add a 1.4x TC to increase the focal length to 280mm and still retain an F4 aperture(good for daytime. The 70-200 F2.8 with a TC is still much better than a 70-300IS USM at 280mm.
 
The 75-300 is junk, IMO. Even the IS version isn't that great. If cost is a concern then go with the 55-250IS, not to be confused with the 55-200 which is also junk.

If you plan on going with the 70-300IS then also consider the 70-200 f4 non IS. What you give up in focal length you get a far better return in image quality and build construction.
 
Hey All,

Recently got my Canon eos 450 camera with kit lenses. I used my
70-300 over the weekend at my son’s football game and was quite
disappointed with the quality of images taken. Have any of you got
the same lens?? If so can you post some images so I can see what the
lens is capable of doing. I must admit that I am new to DSLR and my
techniques may be the cause of poor quality images. This is also a
kit lens, so I guess that the images may be representative of the
quality of the lens?? Please advise.

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Al Dee
first and foremost, and i'm disappointed that nobody has mentioned it yet, do you know how to use a telephoto lens? also, do you know how to use a "cheap" lens? both require a touch of finesse on your part...

in order to use a TELEPHOTO lens, you have to be sure to keep your shutter speeds up. what mode were you using? auto? sports? P? Tv? i typically use Av mode or M mode with a telephoto lens. i set the aperture then watch the shutter speed.

you might be familiar with the "rule" that says you should have a shutter speed of 1/focal length. converted for your crop factor, and adding an factor of safety, you can call that 1/ 2x focal length. so for instance, at 100mm you would want a shutter speed of 1/200s or faster. at 200mm, i like 1/500s, and at 300mm, 1/750s. these are high shutter speeds. did you have your ISO set appropriately?

these are all things to take into account when using a telephoto lens. another thing to keep in mind is that in sports pictures (football), faster shutter speeds are important not only to remove blur caused by camera shake, but to freeze the subjects in time. otherwise, they will come out blurry.

in order to use a CHEAP lens you have to learn its character flaws. my first telephoto lens was a sigma 70-300 APO. this lens could produce some very sharp images, but it suffered from softness at 300mm (max zoom), and also at wide open aperture (f/4-5.6 variable). with this in mind:

300mm, f/5.6 (wide open) - horribly soft
200mm, f/5.0 (wide open) - decent
300mm, f/8.0 (1 stop down) - decent
200mm, f/8.0 ( 2 stops down) - sharp

with this in mind, it's important to think about your shot before you take it, and you can sort of predict what your shots would look like. i'm not going to say that i NEVER took a shot at 300mm f/5.6, but when i did, i didn't expect the world from them. on the other hand, when i took shots at 200mm and f/8.0, i could expect them to be sharp.

this all comes from experience with that particular lens. now i say "cheap" lens, because older, cheaper lenses did not produce consistent results. my new telephoto lens, the 70-200 f/4L, is practically perfect at all focal lengths and all apertures. even the new 55-250 IS is consistently sharp. although is improves as you stop the lens down, it is not the same night-and-day difference that some of the older, cheaper lenses displayed.

that's a lot of text, but the nitty of it is that you can't just throw on a telephoto lens and expect good pictures out of it if you don't know how to use it. i am very experienced with 200-300mm lenses, but if i borrowed a 600mm lens i would not expect great results out of it after the first round...
 
I have an cheapo tamron 70-300

The mean thing is you need speed,so set your camera at Iso 200 in good light it will give you more keepers.

You do not want to take pictures wide open,with any lens.
defently not at 300 Mm

the diference between IS lences is thad you can shoot at lower Iso(or lower speed at statiek objects)
moving objects need an higher speed.

Iff you never used an tele lens before,set your camera to sport,the camera will set Iso to 400 and meantane high shutter speed.

the drawback is the widest aperture will be choisen,but at least you get an feel off the lens,ones you get famulair with the lens set it to the next level and set it to A(Aperture) or(S) shutter priorety)
The problem is not only the lens,but also yourself.
you need to learn wat the lens can,and wat the lens not can.
There is no use to buy an expencieve lens right now.
Iff you can take pictures with an cheap lens,then move to somtinge better.
the pictures will be automatic better.

the only drawnback with an cheap lens is lower light.

It is almost not possible to shoot pictures in low light,and max zoom is not as sharp as an L lens.

But for now try to take pictures in decent light.get the feel off the lens.
and come back iff you have problems :)
here are some pictures with the tamron.
http://demarren.smugmug.com/gallery/7732307_ZRwk4#P-1-25

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Sorry mate!! Deleted all of them. When I purchased the Camera, I
opted for the kit containing the 55-250 IS lens but the sales person
told me that I would get better range from the 75-300. I think he
was trying to get rid of them.
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Al Dee
you're right about that - the 55-250IS is a lot better
 
first and foremost, and i'm disappointed that nobody has mentioned it
yet, do you know how to use a telephoto lens? also, do you know how
to use a "cheap" lens? both require a touch of finesse on your part...
I'm disappointed you didn't read my reply, which was the first and said "Shooting sports is not easy and your technique could improve the photos. Also, you didn't state what the lighting was like. If it was not sunny then you would have problems. Are you shooting in full Manual or Av? What was your AF set at, should have used Ai-servo. If you're shooting in "sports" mode and expecting great shots then it's more the person behind the camera than the lens, even though that lens is probably the worst telephoto lens still produced by Canon."
 
I feel that all poor images should be deleted.
Certainly...if you understand what makes them poor.

But you don't - and because they're gone, we can't look at them and help you. That's why that was a mistake.
 
Thank you SNGX!! I guess you are right. Experience has a lot to do with it. I am not totally blaming the lens. I am a newbie and a little impatient as well. I look at the great images posted on this website and try to take similar shots (far from it). I have a lot to learn and I guess it will take time. I will take on your advice and keep persisting with appropriate settings

FYI- I was shooting in shutter priority mode. Lighting was reasonbly poor. Photos looked dark and blurry. I have other shots that I took indoors that are actually quite worse. For some reason they were not deleted, so i will post them tonight when I get home.

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Al Dee
 

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