GPS on a Photo shoot....

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I need to sometimes fix a location for later shooting (like a different season, cloudy day, early am, foggy. sunset ....) I really don't want to Geotag all my photos so any ideas on the best handheld GPS that allows adding description to a waypoint/location?

Thanks Richard
 
Thanks for the reply. I do not want to geotag photos, just want to save the exact spot where I took a shot (to come back another time).

Richard
 
On a similar note, I got a Garmin 600CSx for Christmas that I'd like to eventually use to sync with my photos. I've heard you can set the clocks on the GPS to match that of the camera and some program will then later blend the info adding the GPS data to the file info for each photo. Anybody have experience with this process? Tips?

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Thanks,
B
 
Actually I haven't seen one yet that didn;t allow you to enter waypoints of your own in. I have the Sony device too.. it's OK but acts a little weird when there is a lot of cover. If I really wanted this to work I suppose the best way is to just have a proper GPS uni that can record the track it's taking then use software to Tag the photos. I know you don't want to tag them but really it's pretty seamless. For the photos you don;t want it on just leave it alone but for the ones you do just record your track then you can forget about it and just shoot all your pictures. if you record the track then put it with your photos you don;t even have to tag them untill you need to know where each shot was taken .. like when you go out again in the spring.

The GPS set their own time to the GPS time which is accurate like the atomic clocks and is automatic. just check your camera to make sure your time hasn't slipped there.. my A200 and A700 have been accurate but my F717 loses time.
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F717 (Legendary)
A700 (what a fantastic machine)
A200 (Almost as fantastic)
 
I use a Qstarz BT-1000, the provided Qstarz data downloader and the free Geosetter software, in order to eventually tag my photos. Works very nicely, and the GPS is good, small and cheap.

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Sony Alpha 700, Sony Alpha 100, Minolta 9xi, Metz 54 MZ-4, Minolta 2.8/100 macro, Sony 1.4/50, Sony 2.8/70-200 SSM, Sony 1.4x TC, Tokina 2.6-2.8/28-70 ProII, Tamron 4.5-5.6/11-18 Di II LD Asph, Tamron 2.8/17-50 Di II LD Asph, Minolta 4.5/400 HS, Canon S70

see some of my images at

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=953875 .



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I use a Qstarz BT-1000, the provided Qstarz data downloader and the
free Geosetter software, in order to eventually tag my photos. Works
very nicely, and the GPS is good, small and cheap.

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Sony Alpha 700, Sony Alpha 100, Minolta 9xi, Metz 54 MZ-4, Minolta
2.8/100 macro, Sony 1.4/50, Sony 2.8/70-200 SSM, Sony 1.4x TC, Tokina
2.6-2.8/28-70 ProII, Tamron 4.5-5.6/11-18 Di II LD Asph, Tamron
2.8/17-50 Di II LD Asph, Minolta 4.5/400 HS, Canon S70

see some of my images at

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=953875 .



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--Doesn't the software included with the Qstarz tag the photos? Do you have much problem with the gps drifting when you are still for very long?
Thanks

Gary
Canon XTI
Tamron 18-250mm
Sigma 10-20mm
http://joslin-family-photos.smugmug.com/
 
Easiest thing to do is simply to photograph the view and then photograph the GPS position display. Any GPS will do.
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Chris Malcolm
 
a Garmin GPS for about 8 years now. All but the simplest models will allow you to insert a waypoint at any time. You can also add a description. My GPSMap 76CS allows about 50-100 characters - really not sure of the limit, but it is substantial. Entering the info is cumberson. You have to cursor around a grid selecting each letter, but if you are good at that sort of thing, it shouldn't be a problem.

All you need to do is make sure the clock in your camera is set to exactly the correct time. The GPS will always be withing a second or so as long as it is locked onto satellites. It won't work indoors unless in some cases you are using the latest chipset.

You can also keep a tracklog of everyplace you go and won't have to worry about waypoints since each trackpoint contains exact coordinates & exact time. Doing this you would have to analyze the tracklog, find the trackpoint matching the time with the photo EXIF time and add a description later. You can set the GPS to add a trackpoint as frequently as every second. The tracklog can also be loaded into Google Earth. Here's a link to a GE with tracklog screen shot I made a couple of years ago:

http://arthurhass.fotopic.net/p37434405.html

Learning GPS is not trivial, but when you get used to using a specific unit, they can be very handy. I use mine for traveling by auto (using it as we speak driving across the US from Little Rock, AR to Portland, OR), cycling, hiking & photography (rarely). It is necessary to have a computer to get the most out of a GPS unit. My 76CS with complete maps of the US cost about $600.

There are also very simple & cheap ($50) data recorders that just keep a tracklog of where you've been. I've never used one however.
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Answer: Mon to Fri. Nothing, Sat & Sun I rest!
 
--Doesn't the software included with the Qstarz tag the photos?
well, there comes some software with it, but GeoTagger is so much better. And its free.

Do
you have much problem with the gps drifting when you are still for
very long?
no. The only time you get drifting or signal loss is, when you go inside a bigger building or tunnel.

the GPS chipset on my GPS happens to be excellent. It is much superior to older GPS systems that I had.
Thanks

Gary
Canon XTI
Tamron 18-250mm
Sigma 10-20mm
http://joslin-family-photos.smugmug.com/
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Sony Alpha 700, Sony Alpha 100, Minolta 9xi, Metz 54 MZ-4, Minolta 2.8/100 macro, Sony 1.4/50, Sony 2.8/70-200 SSM, Sony 1.4x TC, Tokina 2.6-2.8/28-70 ProII, Tamron 4.5-5.6/11-18 Di II LD Asph, Tamron 2.8/17-50 Di II LD Asph, Minolta 4.5/400 HS, Canon S70

see some of my images at

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_search.php?action=file&userID=953875 .



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Found it !!! Exactly what I was looking for:

Lowrance XOG Crossover Navigator @ Bass Pro Shops.

Is weatherproof to IPX standards, has very good street nav. (NAVTEQ) but also has trail, point to point, Marine & can use overlays (TOPO & Sat.)

Has 3+ hr battery life but can also use STD 5v mini-usb external charge devices (as cheap as $10.00) to go almost unlimited time (depending on how many AA batteries U want to carry along.

Can enter way points & very, very easily name them & mark with descriptive "pins".

Also creates "bread crumb" trails that u can name, save, recall & share.

Has SD card slot for updates, backups, play MP3s & show jpgs.

Hand held (7.2 ozs) & has a very nice 3.5 in. screen (320 x 240)

MSRP $299.00 Bass Pro Shop special $159.00 (+ $35.99 for optional 2yr replacement warranty)

Thanks to everyone,

Richard
 
On a similar note, I got a Garmin 600CSx for Christmas that I'd like
to eventually use to sync with my photos. I've heard you can set the
clocks on the GPS to match that of the camera and some program will
then later blend the info adding the GPS data to the file info for
each photo. Anybody have experience with this process? Tips?
The clock on the GPS is set from the satellites it's reading. It's the GPS system time that controls it. It's also the correct official time. So set your camera to it.

I also use a Garmin 60CSx for all kinds of things. It's pretty complete. If one wants a real GPS to use it's probably the one I'd recommend for most uses.

The 60CSx can keep a tracklog that you can save as a file. That includes location and time (and other things). But I'm not familiar with any software that would go through photo exif data and compare it to the log and then set it. At least not for the regular GPS tracklogs. As someone mentioned Sony does make such a device but it's very limited as a GPS.

Walt
 
Found it !!! Exactly what I was looking for:

Lowrance XOG Crossover Navigator @ Bass Pro Shops.

Is weatherproof to IPX standards, has very good street nav. (NAVTEQ)
but also has trail, point to point, Marine & can use overlays (TOPO &
Sat.)

Has 3+ hr battery life but can also use STD 5v mini-usb external
charge devices (as cheap as $10.00) to go almost unlimited time
(depending on how many AA batteries U want to carry along.
My Garmin 60CSx Can run for two complete all day bike touring rides, including recording tracklogs into the 2 gig micro SD chip I have in it. Three hours is way too short for track logging. You want at least a full day. Battery changing will generally mess up your track logging. Or at least require starting a new track.
Can enter way points & very, very easily name them & mark with
descriptive "pins".
From the very first GPS I had, a very long time ago, marking waypoints in this manner is a standard function. It's basic to GPS.
Also creates "bread crumb" trails that u can name, save, recall & share.
These are a standard function in most GPS, called a track log. The trick is how long a log it will store and how easy/hard it is to get it out of the GPS in a usable form for elsewhere.
Has SD card slot for updates, backups, play MP3s & show jpgs.
I have the entire SE US in the 2 gig micro SD in my 60CSx, including both street with navigation and a full POI database and topo maps. With well over half left over which would record tracklogs over a very long trip (think months).
Hand held (7.2 ozs) & has a very nice 3.5 in. screen (320 x 240)

MSRP $299.00 Bass Pro Shop special $159.00 (+ $35.99 for optional
2yr replacement warranty)
The key to GPS is in the chipset it uses. Older chipsets can be blanked out by just about everything. The one in mine will find itself in deep forest, canyons, even inside buildings at least some of the time and it's pretty much state of the art. So make sure which chipset you are getting. Price is some indicator, but not completely.

Not to put too fine a point on it most all of the features you listed are standard on the better mapping GPS. The devil is in the other details.

And once you start using a good GPS you will be surprised just how many uses it has.

Walt[/U]
 
a Garmin GPS for about 8 years now. All but the simplest models will
allow you to insert a waypoint at any time. You can also add a
description. My GPSMap 76CS allows about 50-100 characters - really
not sure of the limit, but it is substantial. Entering the info is
cumberson. You have to cursor around a grid selecting each letter,
but if you are good at that sort of thing, it shouldn't be a problem.
Note that not all brands allow storing a description, though all allow a name change for waypoints.

You do have to be careful as not all software or GPS will take what you can store and what happens then is sometimes not pretty.

There are also limits on how many waypoints, tracks and so on you can store.
You can also keep a tracklog of everyplace you go and won't have to
worry about waypoints since each trackpoint contains exact
coordinates & exact time. Doing this you would have to analyze the
tracklog, find the trackpoint matching the time with the photo EXIF
time and add a description later. You can set the GPS to add a
trackpoint as frequently as every second. The tracklog can also be
loaded into Google Earth.
In Garmin's with memory chip capability tracklogs have an advantage as you are pretty much unlimited in how many or how long they can be. And they store on the chip which gets away from the internal memory limits. Waypoints, on the other hand, store only in internal memory so you are limited in how many you can store without some playing around making them into custom POI.
Learning GPS is not trivial, but when you get used to using a
specific unit, they can be very handy. I use mine for traveling by
auto (using it as we speak driving across the US from Little Rock, AR
to Portland, OR), cycling, hiking & photography (rarely). It is
necessary to have a computer to get the most out of a GPS unit. My
76CS with complete maps of the US cost about $600.
I have several GPS here, larger ones for auto travel, handheld for on foot or bike. I've been using them since the earliest ones were available. They gave no maps, basically just gave you your location and the ability to store waypoints. My first big auto one I programmed a route (in sections) that went from here in Georgia to the Pacific NW and back. Drove most of the way across on small roads which made it a fantastic adventure. Now I use my 60CSx as a bike computer and every ride I record a tracklog I can go back and check later. That even includes things like elevation profiles, speeds and so on. And of course displays on the maps.

For scientific work it's now essential to use GPS to record locations.
There are also very simple & cheap ($50) data recorders that just
keep a tracklog of where you've been. I've never used one however.
Not here either, I stick with the full function mapping GPS now.

Walt
 
Walt, Thanks for the reply. I'm pretty familiar with most of the "current" good HH GPSs.

For me, it had to do with size of screen (old eyes here) & the ability to easily touch (w/gloves in the cold) an on screen keyboard when entering a waypoint description.

As for the battery life, I was able today to get just over 3 & 1/2 hours on the internal ( w/backlight & screen constant on) & over 4 hrs on a pair of rechargeable AA Enloop batteries in a $10.00 external charger. Had no problem adding the external charger as the trip continued without missing a beat.

Topos & Sat. maps are pricey but I only download the exact areas that I need at $5.00 each

I'm actually going back to a lot of the places where I found interesting subject matter & documenting them to be able to get back there quickly in/for different seasons/or reasons. Also to be able to share the info with fellow photogs.

A bit later on I'll be picking up one each, the best Auto unit & HH unit but for now the decent reviews, price, IPX rating, screen usability will work for about 2 years (until I need to do some serious travel).

Richard
 

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