Dimage 5

[juko]

Hi,

First sorry for my bad english.

(5 = Dimege 5
7 =Dimage 7)

I'm going to buy Minolta's Dimage 5 with flash 3600 HS(D). What you think about these?

Should I change to Dimage7(i) and 5600 HS(D)?

Here is some requirements:

I want shoot birds and others animals from long (5;250mm, 7; 200mm)

Sometimes I have to take shot indoor (at house), so 28 mm (7) is much better comparing to dimage 5 (35mm).

How about those flashes?

I have Minoltas reflex camera (505Si) and flash (3500xi). Does that flash work with digital camera?

How are firm updates?

I have read that Minolta will be make update for Dimage 7 to be closer Dimage 7i (just software). Don't ask me about the details -> www.minolta.com.

Shoul I over my budget anf buy Dimage 7i? If I buy Dimage 5 and aftef couple weeks, I will be dissapointed.

Please,

Give good advice.

Best Regards

Juha

 

[Andrew Cruickshank]

I'm going to buy Minolta's Dimage 5 with flash 3600 HS(D). What you
think about these?

Should I change to Dimage7(i) and 5600 HS(D)?

Here is some requirements:

I want shoot birds and others animals from long (5;250mm, 7; 200mm)
Sometimes I have to take shot indoor (at house), so 28 mm (7) is
much better comparing to dimage 5 (35mm).

Remember that you can crop the 7's 5Mp images down to 3.3Mp and get
something like the equivalent of the D5 at 250mm.

How about those flashes?

I have Minoltas reflex camera (505Si) and flash (3500xi). Does that
flash work with digital camera?

The 3500xi will only work with the D7 in manual mode (it fires at
full power or its low power setting only -- so you have no TTL or
ADI metering). The D7i will probably not improve this situation.

Whether you go for the 5600HS(D) or 3600HS(D) depends on
your needs. Both will work better with the D7i than the D5. The
5600 offers better manual control, greater power, and horizontal swivel.

Shoul I over my budget anf buy Dimage 7i? If I buy Dimage 5 and
aftef couple weeks, I will be dissapointed.

I'd go for the D7i. Wait a bit until discount prices have settled.
Trade down from the 5600 to the 3600 and put the difference
towards the D7i.

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---------------
Andrew.

 

[mark Cooper]

Hi Andrew

Iv'e not had a lot to do with the D7 D7i but the pics that the D5 takes are fantastic. check this out.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark_cooper

there are many other on here that will let you see their photos, it may help you to decide.

Coopes

I'm going to buy Minolta's Dimage 5 with flash 3600 HS(D). What you
think about these?

Should I change to Dimage7(i) and 5600 HS(D)?

Here is some requirements:

I want shoot birds and others animals from long (5;250mm, 7; 200mm)
Sometimes I have to take shot indoor (at house), so 28 mm (7) is
much better comparing to dimage 5 (35mm).

Remember that you can crop the 7's 5Mp images down to 3.3Mp and get
something like the equivalent of the D5 at 250mm.

How about those flashes?

I have Minoltas reflex camera (505Si) and flash (3500xi). Does that
flash work with digital camera?

The 3500xi will only work with the D7 in manual mode (it fires at
full power or its low power setting only -- so you have no TTL or
ADI metering). The D7i will probably not improve this situation.

Whether you go for the 5600HS(D) or 3600HS(D) depends on
your needs. Both will work better with the D7i than the D5. The
5600 offers better manual control, greater power, and horizontal
swivel.

Shoul I over my budget anf buy Dimage 7i? If I buy Dimage 5 and
aftef couple weeks, I will be dissapointed.

I'd go for the D7i. Wait a bit until discount prices have settled.
Trade down from the 5600 to the 3600 and put the difference
towards the D7i.

--
---------------
Andrew.

 

[wgm-cp4500]

Neither camera would very good for BIRD photography... you need at least 500mm for anything serious unless you only intend to take relative large birds in habitat settings!

A far better digital choice would be the Coolpix 995 (38-152mm) or even 5000 (28-84mm), the 995 takes wide angle attachment lenses and both can take 2x and 3x attachment lens. The Minolta are not designed to take attachment lens, hence Minolta doesn't make them, and you may well cause damage to the Minolta extending lens system.

For the ultimate in bird photography you should be considering digiscoping thats where the Nikon's excel and are the leaders in the digital world.

Although after saying that, I'm persevering with my S304 which I bought for general holiday pics and experimenting with digiscoping. With the S304 you have to do a 50% crop and focusing is challenging BUT the results can be very pleasing.

 

[handsome_a]

Check out of my D5 pictures which I am very very pleased with this camera.

http://imageevent.com/handsome_a/testing

Neither camera would very good for BIRD photography... you need at
least 500mm for anything serious unless you only intend to take
relative large birds in habitat settings!

A far better digital choice would be the Coolpix 995 (38-152mm) or
even 5000 (28-84mm), the 995 takes wide angle attachment lenses
and both can take 2x and 3x attachment lens. The Minolta are not
designed to take attachment lens, hence Minolta doesn't make them,
and you may well cause damage to the Minolta extending lens system.

For the ultimate in bird photography you should be considering
digiscoping thats where the Nikon's excel and are the leaders in
the digital world.

Although after saying that, I'm persevering with my S304 which I
bought for general holiday pics and experimenting with digiscoping.
With the S304 you have to do a 50% crop and focusing is challenging
BUT the results can be very pleasing.

 

[CrayonElectrique]

I'm going to buy Minolta's Dimage 5 with flash 3600 HS(D). What you
think about these?

D5=discontinued model. D7=current model. If you have the extra$$, go for the D7. As far as the flash is concerned... Depends what you're after.

Should I change to Dimage7(i) and 5600 HS(D)?

Here is some requirements:

I want shoot birds and others animals from long (5;250mm, 7; 200mm)
Sometimes I have to take shot indoor (at house), so 28 mm (7) is
much better comparing to dimage 5 (35mm).

IMO, no chance with either camera. Another person said it well enough -- you need at least 500 mm, so unless you plan on getting a 2x teleconverter, (which I belioeve you actually CAN for these cameras), don't even worry about it.

Shoul I over my budget anf buy Dimage 7i? If I buy Dimage 5 and
aftef couple weeks, I will be dissapointed.

I don't think you'll be dissapointed in either camera -- as long as you bear in mind the limitations of the D5/D7.

Cheers, & have fun!

CE

 

[wgm-cp4500]

The poster was specifically interested in bird photography.

Was the red flower RED... I've got these purple flowers in my garden and when I take close ups of then with my S304 they come out SCARLET. They look much nicer scarlet than their true dark purple colour.

The D5 is a very good digicam but that doesn't make suitable for bird photography. Try taking some pics of empids or warblers!

http://imageevent.com/handsome_a/testing

Neither camera would very good for BIRD photography... you need at
least 500mm for anything serious unless you only intend to take
relative large birds in habitat settings!

A far better digital choice would be the Coolpix 995 (38-152mm) or
even 5000 (28-84mm), the 995 takes wide angle attachment lenses
and both can take 2x and 3x attachment lens. The Minolta are not
designed to take attachment lens, hence Minolta doesn't make them,
and you may well cause damage to the Minolta extending lens system.

For the ultimate in bird photography you should be considering
digiscoping thats where the Nikon's excel and are the leaders in
the digital world.

Although after saying that, I'm persevering with my S304 which I
bought for general holiday pics and experimenting with digiscoping.
With the S304 you have to do a 50% crop and focusing is challenging
BUT the results can be very pleasing.

 

[AnaDigi]

Neither camera would very good for BIRD photography... you need at
least 500mm for anything serious unless you only intend to take
relative large birds in habitat settings!

A far better digital choice would be the Coolpix 995 (38-152mm) or
even 5000 (28-84mm), the 995 takes wide angle attachment lenses
and both can take 2x and 3x attachment lens. The Minolta are not
designed to take attachment lens, hence Minolta doesn't make them,
and you may well cause damage to the Minolta extending lens system.

Don't try to scare people!!!! How can you damage-----explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the ultimate in bird photography you should be considering
digiscoping thats where the Nikon's excel and are the leaders in
the digital world.

Although after saying that, I'm persevering with my S304 which I
bought for general holiday pics and experimenting with digiscoping.
With the S304 you have to do a 50% crop and focusing is challenging
BUT the results can be very pleasing.

 

[AnaDigi]

I'm going to buy Minolta's Dimage 5 with flash 3600 HS(D). What you
think about these?

D5=discontinued model. D7=current model. If you have the extra$$,
go for the D7. As far as the flash is concerned... Depends what
you're after.

It is not true, they both are discontinue!!!!!

Should I change to Dimage7(i) and 5600 HS(D)?

Here is some requirements:

I want shoot birds and others animals from long (5;250mm, 7; 200mm)
Sometimes I have to take shot indoor (at house), so 28 mm (7) is
much better comparing to dimage 5 (35mm).

IMO, no chance with either camera. Another person said it well
enough -- you need at least 500 mm, so unless you plan on getting a
2x teleconverter, (which I belioeve you actually CAN for these
cameras), don't even worry about it.

Shoul I over my budget anf buy Dimage 7i? If I buy Dimage 5 and
aftef couple weeks, I will be dissapointed.

I don't think you'll be dissapointed in either camera -- as long as
you bear in mind the limitations of the D5/D7.

Cheers, & have fun!

CE

 

[wgm-cp4500]

For the same reason as the S304 the thread is only designed to take light filters, it is not designed to support the weight of heavier attachment lens.

All other manufacturers supply ring adapters to attach the lens to the body of the digicam for those with extending lens designs.

Note that even the E10/E-20 that I believe do not have an extending lens design have a special arm to support the weight of their 3x lens attachment.

The D5/D7 are more substantial than the S304 so there is a greater margin before failure, the D5/D7 also uses a manual method for zooming so this also helps.

If it was 100% safe to attach lenses to the D5/D7 Minolta would make them... They don't because it is not 100% safe hence everyone resorting to Olympus lens attachments.

There's nothing wrong with the D5/D7/D7i they are simply not suitable for serious bird photigraphy. There was a recent post of a very nice hummingbird pic by a D5/D7/D7i owner BUT this is not typical of the conditions under which typical bird photography occurs. In the recent British Birds Photograper of the Year competition almost all the photos were take with 500m lenses + 1.4x converters or 600mm lenses.

Neither camera would very good for BIRD photography... you need at
least 500mm for anything serious unless you only intend to take
relative large birds in habitat settings!

A far better digital choice would be the Coolpix 995 (38-152mm) or
even 5000 (28-84mm), the 995 takes wide angle attachment lenses
and both can take 2x and 3x attachment lens. The Minolta are not
designed to take attachment lens, hence Minolta doesn't make them,
and you may well cause damage to the Minolta extending lens system.

Don't try to scare people!!!! How can you
damage-----explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the ultimate in bird photography you should be considering
digiscoping thats where the Nikon's excel and are the leaders in
the digital world.

Although after saying that, I'm persevering with my S304 which I
bought for general holiday pics and experimenting with digiscoping.
With the S304 you have to do a 50% crop and focusing is challenging
BUT the results can be very pleasing.

 

[AnaDigi]

Thank you very much!

All other manufacturers supply ring adapters to attach the lens to
the body of the digicam for those with extending lens designs.

Note that even the E10/E-20 that I believe do not have an extending
lens design have a special arm to support the weight of their 3x
lens attachment.

The D5/D7 are more substantial than the S304 so there is a greater
margin before failure, the D5/D7 also uses a manual method for
zooming so this also helps.

If it was 100% safe to attach lenses to the D5/D7 Minolta would
make them... They don't because it is not 100% safe hence everyone
resorting to Olympus lens attachments.

There's nothing wrong with the D5/D7/D7i they are simply not
suitable for serious bird photigraphy. There was a recent post of
a very nice hummingbird pic by a D5/D7/D7i owner BUT this is not
typical of the conditions under which typical bird photography
occurs. In the recent British Birds Photograper of the Year
competition almost all the photos were take with 500m lenses + 1.4x
converters or 600mm lenses.

Neither camera would very good for BIRD photography... you need at
least 500mm for anything serious unless you only intend to take
relative large birds in habitat settings!

A far better digital choice would be the Coolpix 995 (38-152mm) or
even 5000 (28-84mm), the 995 takes wide angle attachment lenses
and both can take 2x and 3x attachment lens. The Minolta are not
designed to take attachment lens, hence Minolta doesn't make them,
and you may well cause damage to the Minolta extending lens system.

Don't try to scare people!!!! How can you
damage-----explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the ultimate in bird photography you should be considering
digiscoping thats where the Nikon's excel and are the leaders in
the digital world.

Although after saying that, I'm persevering with my S304 which I
bought for general holiday pics and experimenting with digiscoping.
With the S304 you have to do a 50% crop and focusing is challenging
BUT the results can be very pleasing.