Lens coating damage?

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I just picked up a 35-105mm lens and it appears to be in great shape other than the coating on the front glass (and some serious lens creep). It's not terrible, but if looks a bit mottled and spotted. N Again, nothing awful. It seems to not affect the photos, but I haven't taken many shots yet. Does this mean the coating is damaged, or is there something I can do to fix it? I'd like to keep it. On the few shots I took, it looks like a very sharp lens and feels and looks great.

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"mottled and spotted" sounds like it could be fungus. If possible post some photo's of the front element
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Is it on the outside, and shows up well only under reflected light? It's coating. Don't sweat it...nothing you can do to fix it.

Is it on the inside, and shows up well under direct light? It's probably fungus. Then you might want to worry...it can infect your other lenses.

Fungus can get inside lenses, do coating damage, and then die off from UV exposure. But it's rather rare.

Greg
 
I think it's probably coating on the outside. Here are a couple of
shots of the lens surface. So, far I haven't seen it show up when I
use the lens to take pictures. I wonder if it will affect macro shots
or small aperture shots.
Give the lens a good cleaning with lens cleaner and lens tissue. Make sure and get any grit and such off first and then gentle circular motion with changes of tissue. Some of that is grease and oil film and will clean off with wet cleaning.

Once you have it clean then you can evaluate it better. And put a clean protective filter on. The main reason to keep a protective filter on is to avoid frequent cleaning, which will wear the coating away.

I think you do have some coating damage but hard to tell without cleaning.

Walt
 
If it doesn't scratch your glasses it should be okay for your lens. I don't recommend using harsh cleaning liquids that could wear away the coating. I destroyed a beer can doing that. Now I only use eyeglass cleaning solution.
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Sony A700, Sony A200, Minolta 7xi, 800si, Pentax 6x7, Nikon FE, and Agfa Isola, and Konica C35.
 
Is it okay to use micro fiber cloth and the lens cleaner that comes
with eyeglasses?
A brand new micro fiber cloth fresh out of the bag is probably ok. But after that there is a chance of some hard dust particle from previous use or just from dust in the air imbedded in the fabric. It is far safer to use disposable tissue each sheet of which touches the lens only once.

It depends what's in the lens cleaner. Some glasses cleaners can have waxes or oils to fill the scratches in the eyeglasses. Or other unwanted contents. Best to use lens cleaner that's specific for photographic lenses.

I stlll use Kodak lens tissue and Kodak lens cleaner. Harder to come by these days but I have a fair supply. You can still get both off ebay. Sometimes under different labels.

I don't completely follow the standard directions but here goes, realize that watching me do it will tell you more than these words, my technique I learned from my father who was an excellent photographer:

Start with a blower and lens brush. Blow the lens off, blow the brush off. Then brush the lens lightly with the tip of the brush to dislodge particles. Combine that with more blowing. (If I don't have a blower along I'll use my own breath carefully but you have to be careful about the moisture)

Note the oils may streak with the brush and may contaminate the brush. If you are sure there are no particles on the lens you may want to avoid contaminating your brush and just brush with blowing with a bunched up lens tissue used like a brush.

I then get out a few sheets of lens tissue ready to go. Then I apply one drop of the lens cleaner carefully dead center on the lens being very careful it does not flow to the side. (most instructions say to put it on the tissue but I've always done it this way as it's easier to flow it on the lens. The issue is to avoid the cleaner getting into the lens mount and around the other side of the lens) This is mopped gently around the lens in a mostly circular motion without rubbing with a slightly bunched sheet of lens tissue. (you are trying to pick up any particles doing this) Follow with a new clean piece of lens tissue to clean and polish the lens very lightly while removing the last of the lens cleaner. (this may actually turn out to be more than two tissues used) Use absolute minimum pressure at all times. Do not use the tissue much after the lens surface is dry. Blow off any remaining lens tissue fibers. Then examine the lens carefully.

Any streaks on the lens surface repeat the mop and clean with new lens tissue. Pay attention all the way out to the edge of the lens. Scrubbing or rubbing with any pressure to speak of is to be avoided. A lens as oily looking as yours will probably take more than one round.

Once the lens is perfectly clean then put the perfectly cleaned filter on and leave it on. For most lenses even polarizers can be screwed onto the filter if they are used. You will have to use your own judgement here. But effectively you want that filter outside surface to be all you need to clean. Use a quality multicoated filter for this protective filter and always use your lens hood to keep down excess light hitting it. And use a lens cap when not using the lens.

When you are done you will have a little pile of lens tissue to throw away, don't reuse it, at least not for cleaning lenses. Make sure and protect your supply of lens tissue from dust. The original Kodak tissue came in packaging that did a lot toward doing that with a folder inside an envelope. I keep those in a ziplock in as clean a part of my camera bag as possible.

That's more or less it. Just remember no matter how careful you are each time you do this microscopic amounts of the coating get worn off. So clean sparingly and protect the cleaned lens surface. On average I have to clean my lenses less than once a year, the protective filter outer surface has to be cleaned more often. But if it's coating is damaged it's cheaper to replace.

I always give any used lens I'm thinking about buying the third degree about their surfaces. That's particularily necessary if it's a lens that did not have a protective filter or was otherwise cleaned lots. The wear of the coating is the why of protective filters, not the blows breaking the lens, which is extremely rare if you are careful.

Note the back element of the lens can also need cleaning. and that can be quite a problem on some lenses though the technique is basically the same. Use a back lens cap always. And a blower is all you will need most of the time.

Walt
 
here is the link what sony said about lens cleaning hope it contains some helpfull information:

http://support.sony-europe.com/dime/tutorials/howto_clean/howto_clean.aspx?site=odw_en_GB&m=DSLR-A200

' Lenses

Lenses need to be treated with particular care. The glass that makes up the lenses is very fragile and can scratch very easily.

A lens should only be cleaned as a last resort. The optical surface is affected each time it is cleaned. Marks are always left, even if they are not immediately obvious to the naked eye.

It is better to have a lens that is slightly dusty than a lens that is scratched.

Lenses need to be treated with particular care. The glass that makes up the lenses is very fragile and can scratch very easily. A lens should only be cleaned as a last resort. The optical surface is affected each time it is cleaned. Marks are always left, even if they are not immediately obvious to the naked eye. It is better to have a lens that is slightly dusty than a lens that is scratched.

In our view, cleaning is essential if you notice fingerprints; by their nature these are oily and acidic, and can damage the anti-reflection coating of the lens. Dried water droplets and sea spray contain salt crystals that may also damage the glass and must be removed.

Removing dust and microparticles:

First, use a blowing ball to remove most of the dust. Never blow with your mouth. Doing this results in particles of saliva on the lens which leave marks that are hard to remove.

Next, use a very soft-haired brush to remove the dust on the lens. Do not touch the hairs of the brush with your fingers as this will make the hairs oily and will result in smears. Do not press too hard. After a day at the beach, for example, microparticles of quartz or silica may be resting on the glass of your lens and improper cleaning may scratch the optical surface.

Removing oily smears and fingerprints:

As a general rule, avoid touching the glass with your fingers. If fingerprints are present on the glass, never remove them using your clothes or tissue. Their fibres are too coarse and may scratch the glass.

Use a microfibre cloth and keep it in a bag or your carrying case to prevent it from getting dusty.

If you need to use a liquid to remove oily smears, do not use tap water as the salts in this may scratch the glass.

Instead, wet your microfibre cloth in deionised water and, without rubbing, dab the surface of the glass.'
 
Well, before I read the last few posts, I broke most of the rules. Nothing too serious, but I did get the lens looking pretty darn good compared to how it was before. I used my eyeglass cleanser (which said it could be used for camera lenses) and a microfiber cloth. I probably rubbed more than I should have, but still not excessively. Some of the spots were tough to get off and one small one I just decided to leave. I still have a bit of discoloring around the edge of the glass in a few places, but decided to err on the side of caution and not continue to rub there. I found an old UV filter and put it on for protection, but I'll probably have to pick up a better filter when I get a chance (any suggestions?) I'm at work now, but I'll post a shot of the cleaner lens when I get home.

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How about the Zeiss handi-wipe style cloths? I saw a pack of 50 in a store recently & you would think that something with the Zeiss name would be ok for lenses (it had a little drawing of a camera on the package).
 
I have these Zeiss pre-moistened lens cloths, 90 in a box. On the box it claims cleans without leaving streaks or residue and it can be used on camera lenses. However, I just could never have clean glass at all and the surface was always left with steaks and residue. Did I do anything wrong? or the unclear "cleaned" surface is ok to be left alone?
 

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