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Read this very interesting article about how black Silicon could
change digital photography. it certainly looks like it wouldn't add
to the cost of the current process in making sensors.

http://gizmodo.com/5062412/black-silicon-discovery-could-change-digital-photography-night-vision-forever
The silicon itself does not AFAIK capture the photons in current CMOS/LCD sensors, and so the research result, even if proven right, does not change that much current sensors unless I am completely mistaken.

Does anyone here have more info about this news? I would stay a little skeptical at the moment.

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Osku
 
You bring up an interesting point. Here is some articles going into more detail:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=29673651

http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2008/10/12/sionyx-brings-black-silicon-into-the-light-material-could-upend-solar-imaging-industries/

Be sure to read the second page of article as it turns out that the sensitvity is NOT due to increased surface area but instead a rearrangement of crystal structure amoung other things. It does sound like this is a significant development.
Will
 
Its been around for many years, and no one has figured out a use for it, just promoters making claims.

However, if you were to attempt to make a 10mp sensor, each photosite would be different and have a different sensitivity, since the high energy laser keavs rather random spikes on the surface. This may average out over a large surface, but a tiny photosite may be impractical.
 
You bring up an interesting point. Here is some articles going into
more detail:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=29673651

http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2008/10/12/sionyx-brings-black-silicon-into-the-light-material-could-upend-solar-imaging-industries/
Be sure to read the second page of article as it turns out that the
sensitvity is NOT due to increased surface area but instead a
rearrangement of crystal structure amoung other things. It does sound
like this is a significant development.
Will
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Osku
 
What ever happened to black silicon? It was supposed to give new ccd's sensitivity 100 times better than they were back in 2008 but there's been no updates since.

Did it just die without a trace or is it still in the labs?

Just curious
 
SiOnyx is still around. I think they're looking for investors or companies willing to license their tech. They are marketing to security/defence, machine vision, and other imaging applications (cars, game systems like XBox Kinect, medical).

While they don't have many exact specs listed, from the way they're marketing it, it seems like it does have slightly improved sensitivity in visible, but most of the improved sensitivity is in the IR range... which would explain why the applications listed above are what they're focusing on. They make no mention of commercial photography or video solutions in their marketing material.

Just yesterday they announced they were awarded $3million by the US DoD for a project to improve infrared sensors.
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~K
 
Thank you! That's me.

As I also wrote on DPreview:

The huge boost in sensitivity claimed by the black silicon team is only for short-wave IR. Out around 2um to be specific. In that region of the spectrum, silicon has very low sensitivity, so there is significant margin for improvement.

However, 2um is way outside the human visual range, so this does not help visible light camera sensors, where there is only small margin for improvement anyway. What's more, the surface treatment used to make black silicon would turn that material in to a very poor image sensor indeed.

The treatment creates a surface that is rough at the nano-scale and absorbs light (IR light). In modern CMOS image sensors, the photodiode is deliberately burried slightly down from the surface of the silicon in order to move it away from the defects that result in dark current. With the absorption in black silicon occurring in a nano-scale surface layer, it precludes the use of pinned (burried) photodiodes. This would limit it to the older, 3T sensor technology which can not use pinned PDs. Conventional 3T sensors have dark currents that are typically around 2 to 3 orders of magnitude higher than can be achieved using 4T technology, and the dark signal non-uniformity (DSNU), which causes pixel fixed pattern noise, is correspondingly high.

I strongly suspect that dark current and DSNU in a black silicon sensor would be much, much higher, as the treatment will be introducing huge amounts of defects in to the surface.

While black silicon may have uses in perhaps solar panels or as detectors for IR lasers, but as a image sensor technology it's a no-go!
 

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