The Jury is still out??

[RJNedimyer]

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we "Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

 

[LutherHeggs]

I agree. I find it hard to believe that in the final analysis the image quality (the real test) will not be "better". Fuji would have an instant flop if they totally relied on some "noise reduction" algorithm to repair noise in higher iso's. Hopefully, that is not the case for the new 160 vs the 100 iso rating. Software tweaks ain't gonna do it - and I don't think they are (or would be) foolish to rely solely on that.

I'm looking foward to the increased af speed along with less noise at higher iso's. That would be enough for me to sell the old 6900 and upgrade.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

 

[rick b.]

I am another individual that has been following the camera releases this spring. I have ruled out the Sony 707 simply because I find it difficult to carry using one hand (OK, it looks funny too). I really want to like either the S602 or the Minolta D7i. I have looked at many sample images from the S602, 6900 and the Minolta 7.

It does appear that the D7 has slightly better resolution, but the Fujis appear to be a superior mechanical build. I have held the D7 but have never seen a 6900 in a store. Do people just buy the Fuji sight unseen?

I have read that the Minolta was suppose to look more like film, less processed look. Is this really true? Are people splitting hairs or are there really significant differences in the images? Can you really see the difference in these 2 cameras when printing to an A3 size?

I'm looking foward to the increased af speed along with less noise
at higher iso's. That would be enough for me to sell the old 6900
and upgrade.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

 

[Jared Hunter]

It does appear that the D7 has slightly better resolution,

Are you sure? http://www.pbase.com/image/1718209

 

[wetweekend]

It does appear that the D7 has slightly better resolution,

Are you sure? http://www.pbase.com/image/1718209

Nice one.

Does anybody really think that Fuji would produce a camera that equals that of its own 6m SLR professional digital camera, I think not. 602 looks good enough to me.

 

[tony gilmour]

Dcresources have done their final review
Here is their conclusions

How Does it Compare?

The Fuji FinePix S602 Zoom is one of the most highly anticipated cameras of 2002. Does it have the same, nice 6X zoom as its predecessor? Yep. Does it have all the features any enthusiast could want? Yes, got that too. Does it support add-on lenses an external flash? Sure does. Does it have a nice movie mode? The best, in my opinion. Does the new 3rd-generation SuperCCD sensor let the S602 leapfrog the competition in terms of photo quality? Nope.

While the S602's photos look great printed and downsized, when you look at the raw images, especially at the 6MP (interpolated) setting, the artifacts, jaggies, and noise will jump right out at you. Of course, most people don't show off their photos in that form -- they print them or shrink them to a more useable size. The S602 isn't the photo quality leader, but the photos are still very good. It's up to you to decide if the S602 is right for you. Does the FinePix S602 get my recommendation? You bet.

What I liked:

Nice 6X optical zoom lens
Full manual controls
Industry-leading movie mode
Very good image quality, especially when printed or downsized
Impressive macro mode (two of them, in fact)
SmartMedia and CompactFlash Type II slots
Fast startup and shot-to-shot times; minimal shutter lag
Shift Shortcut feature saves a trip to the menus
Support for external flash
What I didn't care for:

Lots of noise, artifacts, and jaggies, especially at the 6MP setting
Noticeable barrel distortion at wide-angle
A few missing features in playback mode (slideshow, image protection)

Some other high-end cameras to check out (and it's a long list) include the Canon PowerShot G2 and S40, Casio QV-4000, Minolta DiMAGE 7i, S304, and S404, Nikon Coolpix 995 and 5000, Olympus C-4040Z, E-10, and E-20, Panasonic Lumix DMC-LC5, Sony DSC-F707 and DSC-S85, and the Toshiba PDR-M81.
Camera models in bold have a zoom lens greater than 3X.

As always, I recommend a trip down to your local reseller to try out the FinePix S602 Zoom and it's competitors before you buy!

Photo Gallery

You want photos? I've got plenty. Check out the standard and Chicago galleries!

Want a second opinion?

For more information on the S602, check out reviews at Steves Digicams and Imaging Resource.

Feedback

Jeff welcomes your comments or questions. Send them to [email protected]. Due to my limited resources, please do not send me requests for personal camera recommendations.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

 

[slipstream]

So Eric you agree with this? As this means that after 2 reviews the camera is judged as HIGHLY RECOMMENDED and as : Does the FinePix S602 get my recommendation? You bet.

So thats 2-0 for the 602.

Nice work FUJI.

 

[tony gilmour]

Read what you will into it , thats why i posted ...............it just bears out what i was saying.if you can live with the jaggies etc. thats fine...for me i need to move forward not backward, if the s602 had delivered the goods i would be buying ...but it has not.......the images just don't stand up.

So Eric you agree with this? As this means that after 2 reviews the
camera is judged as HIGHLY RECOMMENDED and as : Does the FinePix
S602 get my recommendation? You bet.

So thats 2-0 for the 602.

Nice work FUJI.

 

[Ismail Timor]

Hello RJNedimyer

Your comments are very valuable for me.I always read your and Mr.Noack's comments for a 2-3 months.Thanks both of you.

I.Timor

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

 

[Richard Dunn]

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.

I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.

For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same impact but I will wait and see.

 

[Jay S.]

Richard,

I can answer your question partly. It is, for me anyway, because the 6900 is getting very difficult to find. I have a brand new one that I received a little over a week ago. I also have the S602 preordered from the Dell site ($619). I can still return the 6900 for a full refund, if I want. I do not think that I am at this point.

I can only base that on the following. I am not an expert, but enough of them have posted photos with the S602 that, again in my mind and view, show that the S602 photos are not as detailed, ISO for ISO are not as good (there was another thread comparing where I submitted a photo), that have colors that just do not appear as vibrant.

I am not an expert at manipulation through software, nor do I want to be. I realize that products such as Photoshop can almost make a silk purse from a sow's ear (old phrase), but again, it shouldn't have to. Out of the box, I see none of that with any shot the 6900 I have has produced. Not one. Again, the images I've poured over are from the various folks reviewing the S602. Would I love more battery life, of course, a clearer EVF, yes, but not at the price of image. Just my humble and non-scientific opinion.

Jay S.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.
I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until
they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it
to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but
most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.
For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than
my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same
impact but I will wait and see.

 

[Jay S.]

Sorry, here is the ISO thread I referred to.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=2573156

Jay S.

Jay S.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.
I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until
they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it
to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but
most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.
For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than
my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same
impact but I will wait and see.

 

[BertD]

Jay,

I think the most important message of your post is we all need to have a S602 in our hands and see what it is able to produce just as you have with your 6900. The 6900 proved to more than the reviwers wrote and one can only hope the S609 will follow once it's out in production and people post pictures as that will be the ultimate testament.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=2573156

Jay S.

Jay S.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.
I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until
they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it
to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but
most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.
For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than
my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same
impact but I will wait and see.

 

[Jay S.]

Bert,

Again though, the only problem for people like me, is that the 6900 is getting scarce for NTSC format, with a non-grey market warranty. I was able to get both an NTSC format and warranty covered by USA. For me, it was get something everyone said is a great camara (with some useabililty flaws that can be overcome), or wait and risk not getting a 6900, which may even jump in price IF some of the imaging problems turn out to be real on the S602. I still have my S602 on order, and don't know what to do. Since I got it at an excellent price, I suppose I could get it, and sell the one I am less pleased with after comparing. I may take a hit, but I got the 6900 at good price as well. VERY difficult position to be in.

Jay S.

I think the most important message of your post is we all need to
have a S602 in our hands and see what it is able to produce just as
you have with your 6900. The 6900 proved to more than the reviwers
wrote and one can only hope the S609 will follow once it's out in
production and people post pictures as that will be the ultimate
testament.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=2573156

Jay S.

Jay S.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.
I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until
they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it
to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but
most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.
For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than
my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same
impact but I will wait and see.

 

[Richard Dunn]

Jay S.

I think the most important message of your post is we all need to
have a S602 in our hands and see what it is able to produce just as
you have with your 6900. The 6900 proved to more than the reviwers
wrote and one can only hope the S609 will follow once it's out in
production and people post pictures as that will be the ultimate
testament.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=2573156

Jay S.

Jay S.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.
I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until
they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it
to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but
most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.
For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than
my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same
impact but I will wait and see.

Jay, I apreciate your reply and understand your reasons. I had a 6900 for 9 months and loved the images BUT out of the box they weren't as sharp the ISO was low and poor light photos were difficult.

I like the 601 images out of the box better AND they enlarge up like the 6900 did. Why don't you get hold of a 601 for a while if you like it's images then you'll be fine with 602 I'm sure.

Don't you think you'll be able to get a 6900 second hand if you wait and don't like the 602? I think you will. I too am itching to get another decent camera but I'm going to sit on my hands and wait.

 

[BertD]

Jay,

To me, it's sounds like you are in the drivers seat no matter which camera you pick. You got a damn good price on the S602 and since it may not ship till the end of next month you have time to cancel. If you keep the S602 after it's delivered and it's all it's ment to be you can always sell your 6900 (to eric...lol) on ebay at a good price to all the nay sayers.

Sounds like " win, win" to me.

Happy shooting!

Jay S.

I think the most important message of your post is we all need to
have a S602 in our hands and see what it is able to produce just as
you have with your 6900. The 6900 proved to more than the reviwers
wrote and one can only hope the S609 will follow once it's out in
production and people post pictures as that will be the ultimate
testament.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=2573156

Jay S.

Jay S.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.
I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until
they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it
to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but
most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.
For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than
my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same
impact but I will wait and see.

 

[ianR]

Hi Ray

After a bit of cool reflection I have to agree: I think the 602 is a home run. I can't imagine how it could be otherwise.

It's an improvement on the 6900 in many ways and that, according to fuji, sold out too quickly because it was too successful.

The movie ability will be a major selling point along with the improved focus, low light ability and less hot pixels to name but a few.

I confess to having been a bit of a thread follower, and I realized that if you just follow the threads that say 'look at this lousy image' all you will see are lousy images. When I actually took the time to evaluate all the images I came to the conclusion that they really aren't bad. Also I re-examined the 6900 images as someone suggested and, I agree, the 602 images are better on the same sites.

Finally, I've looked at the first 100 or so images I took with the 6900 and they aren't so hot. I remember I was disappointed at the time. I don't know if this means the camera needs some time to run in, or whether it was me but either way, it may be valid.

The only possible doubts that remain for me are if Fuji have increased the sharpening or jpeg compression (some of the file sizes look smaller but perhaps that's because they have less noise?) And where the CA is coming from? (Yes, I do know what causes it and it shouldn't be worse than the 6900 but it is. Maybe it's just one particular lens).
Overall, and especially at the price, this one is going to run and run...

PS. The threads about the 6900 when it was introduced said exactly the same things in comparison with the 4900.
regards
Ian

 

[RJNedimyer]

Hi Ray
After a bit of cool reflection I have to agree: I think the 602 is
a home run. I can't imagine how it could be otherwise.
It's an improvement on the 6900 in many ways and that, according to
fuji, sold out too quickly because it was too successful.
The movie ability will be a major selling point along with the
improved focus, low light ability and less hot pixels to name but a
few.
I confess to having been a bit of a thread follower, and I realized
that if you just follow the threads that say 'look at this lousy
image' all you will see are lousy images. When I actually took the
time to evaluate all the images I came to the conclusion that they
really aren't bad. Also I re-examined the 6900 images as someone
suggested and, I agree, the 602 images are better on the same sites.
Finally, I've looked at the first 100 or so images I took with the
6900 and they aren't so hot. I remember I was disappointed at the
time. I don't know if this means the camera needs some time to run
in, or whether it was me but either way, it may be valid.
The only possible doubts that remain for me are if Fuji have
increased the sharpening or jpeg compression (some of the file
sizes look smaller but perhaps that's because they have less
noise?) And where the CA is coming from? (Yes, I do know what
causes it and it shouldn't be worse than the 6900 but it is. Maybe
it's just one particular lens).
Overall, and especially at the price, this one is going to run and
run...
PS. The threads about the 6900 when it was introduced said exactly
the same things in comparison with the 4900.
regards
Ian

Thanks Ian I was aware of the site but not the forums at the time I purched my 6900.

BTY for those who are concerned about hoding a 602 before purchase I ordered the 6900 without ever seeing one. The closest camera shop that Fuji indicated would carry them was about 2½ hours 1 away [They indicated they could not keep any in stock so the trip did not seem worth the trip and they wanted MSRP].
--
Ray
RJNedimyer

 

[Peter Marina]

Lets se a show of hands. Who feels sorry for Jays's "VERY difficult position"?

LOL

Peter Marina

Jay S.

I think the most important message of your post is we all need to
have a S602 in our hands and see what it is able to produce just as
you have with your 6900. The 6900 proved to more than the reviwers
wrote and one can only hope the S609 will follow once it's out in
production and people post pictures as that will be the ultimate
testament.

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=2573156

Jay S.

Jay S.

Hello Everyone!

I just read a comment that the jury is still out on the 602.

Sorry, Court has not even conviened yet. The jury has not even been
totally selected and the only thing that has happened so far is the
equivalent of newspaper comments and speculation.

The only reviewer who has commented says it is a home run. Other's
whom I respect along with their opinions have not personally used
the camera but have pretty much condemmed it.

Remember from US history the story of the Tucker Automobile "it's
junk" "it doesn't have a reverse" Not true it was 5 to 20 years
ahead of the competition and we still don't have a steering center
headlight even 50 years later [at least in the US]. So, before we
"Tuckerize" the 602 lets stop and think.

And before we go too far lets allow court conveine and come to a
legitimate conclusion.

I know its hard but, let's all relax a few more weeks and see what
develops (poor choice of words in a digital world but I do not know
the digital equivalent).

BTW: I am willing to state there's a chance I could be wrong but I
think the defence will have an easy time.

--
Ray
RJNedimyer

Ray I agree with you 100%.
I can't understand why anyone would want to make any decision until
they have had a 602 in their hands used it and printed out from it
to their satisfaction. Now I know not everyone can do this, but
most camera shops will let you. So why don't we all wait and see.
For me trying out a 601 for a week showed me it was much nicer than
my old 4700 and the 6800. I feel sure the 602 will have the same
impact but I will wait and see.

--
Peter Marina

 

[ianR]

Hi Ray
It's always nice to here from you, I've learned such a lot from you.

I managed to put my hands on a 6900 at the time but with no battery and 2 security devices. A thing like a telephone cord stuck on one side and a huge round magnetic button on the other. It was a terrible experience.

I imported mine from Focus camera and never regretted it. I could probably still sell it for more locally than I paid for it.

Phil's reviews are the best in my opinion. I've reread his review of the 6900 and I can't fault it. Excellent apart from the final conclusion. The gallery is superb. I'll wager when he finally puts up a review there will be a lot of smiles all round.
Take care
Ian

Hi Ray
After a bit of cool reflection I have to agree: I think the 602 is
a home run. I can't imagine how it could be otherwise.
It's an improvement on the 6900 in many ways and that, according to
fuji, sold out too quickly because it was too successful.
The movie ability will be a major selling point along with the
improved focus, low light ability and less hot pixels to name but a
few.
I confess to having been a bit of a thread follower, and I realized
that if you just follow the threads that say 'look at this lousy
image' all you will see are lousy images. When I actually took the
time to evaluate all the images I came to the conclusion that they
really aren't bad. Also I re-examined the 6900 images as someone
suggested and, I agree, the 602 images are better on the same sites.
Finally, I've looked at the first 100 or so images I took with the
6900 and they aren't so hot. I remember I was disappointed at the
time. I don't know if this means the camera needs some time to run
in, or whether it was me but either way, it may be valid.
The only possible doubts that remain for me are if Fuji have
increased the sharpening or jpeg compression (some of the file
sizes look smaller but perhaps that's because they have less
noise?) And where the CA is coming from? (Yes, I do know what
causes it and it shouldn't be worse than the 6900 but it is. Maybe
it's just one particular lens).
Overall, and especially at the price, this one is going to run and
run...
PS. The threads about the 6900 when it was introduced said exactly
the same things in comparison with the 4900.
regards
Ian

Thanks Ian I was aware of the site but not the forums at the time I
purched my 6900.

BTY for those who are concerned about hoding a 602 before purchase
I ordered the 6900 without ever seeing one. The closest camera shop
that Fuji indicated would carry them was about 2½ hours 1 away
[They indicated they could not keep any in stock so the trip did
not seem worth the trip and they wanted MSRP].
--
Ray
RJNedimyer