Canon EOS 1D(s) Mark III Flawed or Not ?

[WalterSrChat]

I have only properly tried one 1DS III, and it is not fine. It wont

So, you tried your colleague’s 1DS III and 100mm macro lens, and then decided there was a problem!

focus at all at times on the canon 100mm macro, then only sluggishly.

Correct you need to understand why, which you obviously no not.
Hint read the 1Ds III manual

I tried the same lens under the same conditions at the same time on

You tried the same 100mm macro lens on the 5D and 1Ds III at the same time! Not possible to have the same lens on two different cameras at the same time in the real world.

my 5D and it was fine...... this is a colleagues 1Ds I am going to
try the latest firmware fix for her. Otherwise the camera will have
to go back to Canon like all the others..... I was toying with the

That seems to be the only way to verify that your problem is from a lack of experience with the 1Ds III.

idea of the camera for myself later this year, but on this

Please do not purchase the 1Ds III, we already have enough complainers!

demonstration the AF is flawed.

If I find any AF flaws in my 1Ds III, they belong to me, and I have the option to send the camera in for repair. After all I paid for them, so you do not have to deal with them. I made the correct choice for me.

 

[jwestveer]

So you do NOT own a 1DS MKIII, but you tried a friends, and could not get it to work with your lens. So what is flawed, you or the camera?

 

[barrie2504]

Like a previous poster I have used the 1Ds3 since January and have got nothing but praise for the camera. My work does not use rapid fire techniques and focus is the most accurate of any auto-focus camera I have ever used - although I choose the focus point I want because I cannot rely on the camera to know where I want it to focus - to that end the recent firmware update to allow any focus point to be chosen with the joy-stick is a very useful addition - this great camera just got even better!

Unlike some other posters on dpreview I don't have to wait for RG to tell me if there is a focus issue - if there was one in the way I need to use this camera I would know it by now, and if I didn't my editors would have told me in no uncertain terms.

Barrie

 

[NickMJr]

there is no indication that the just released firmware release has
anything to do with the "root cause" business. The large amount of
time between the advent of the "rumor" and the release date implies
no connection.
--
Leon
http://homepage.mac.com/leonwittwer/landscapes.htm

If there is a RUMOR that a couple is to be getting married, and 8 months they get married, so by your logic, the RUMOR was not true because there is a large time period.

Canon, will not release a firmware and call it the "Root Cause" solution, because they want to leave the door open for more firmware's to come. Did you also notice, to save face, the for the first time ever I believe they added features to an existing camera. They did this to help wipe the egg off of there face for the blunder they have caused.
http://nickmjr.smugmug.com/
Nick M

 

[astirusty]

focus at all at times on the canon 100mm macro, then only sluggishly.

Correct you need to understand why, which you obviously no not.
Hint read the 1Ds III manual

Unless you can point to a specific section of the manual that covers using a 100mm macro as to why it wouldn't work with a 1Ds-Mk3 when it does work with a 5D; then your post is just another RTM TROLL remark.

I tried the same lens under the same conditions at the same time on

You tried the same 100mm macro lens on the 5D and 1Ds III at the same
time! Not possible to have the same lens on two different cameras at
the same time in the real world.

I think most intelligent people understood what he meant.

 

[Tarn Tantikij]

Canon, will not release a firmware and call it the "Root Cause"
solution, because they want to leave the door open for more
firmware's to come. Did you also notice, to save face, the for the
first time ever I believe they added features to an existing camera.
They did this to help wipe the egg off of there face for the blunder
they have caused.

As I speculated on other threads, the root cause will likely be fixed with the new models.

It's been nearly a year now, and many firmwares, folks.

If it could be fixed it would have been fixed.

tarn

 

[José B]

At the end of the day it's my decision to buy or not

Cheers,

José

Like a previous poster I have used the 1Ds3 since January and have
got nothing but praise for the camera. My work does not use rapid
fire techniques and focus is the most accurate of any auto-focus
camera I have ever used - although I choose the focus point I want
because I cannot rely on the camera to know where I want it to focus

• to that end the recent firmware update to allow any focus point to

be chosen with the joy-stick is a very useful addition - this great
camera just got even better!

Unlike some other posters on dpreview I don't have to wait for RG to
tell me if there is a focus issue - if there was one in the way I
need to use this camera I would know it by now, and if I didn't my
editors would have told me in no uncertain terms.

Barrie

--
Feeling it from downtown with the 1D-Trey and hitting the quadrupLe-doubLe
Recent work:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/kirstie_1diii
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/treina_1diii
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/heather_1diii
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/cris4_1diii

 

[Tarn Tantikij]

Like a previous poster I have used the 1Ds3 since January and have
got nothing but praise for the camera. My work does not use rapid
fire techniques and focus is the most accurate of any auto-focus
camera I have ever used - although I choose the focus point I want
because I cannot rely on the camera to know where I want it to focus

• to that end the recent firmware update to allow any focus point to

be chosen with the joy-stick is a very useful addition - this great
camera just got even better!

Unlike some other posters on dpreview I don't have to wait for RG to
tell me if there is a focus issue - if there was one in the way I
need to use this camera I would know it by now, and if I didn't my
editors would have told me in no uncertain terms.

Barrie

You use the autofocus in a certain limited way.

In a manner one could just as easily manually focus.

It would appear that the socalled "other posters" and RG use their auto focus where it's really needed.

Then they encounter serious problems.

tarn

 

[Tarn Tantikij]

I've had a 1DSMk111 since January. When I first got the camera I
switched to center focus point - because I was often disagreeing with
the focus point the camera selected - and I've had no focus issues.
Focusing is near instantaneous, even with my f4 lenses, and dead on.
I have not used focus tracking, but I can say that for my work, there
are no problems.
--
Regards - Seth

I think the pattern begins to emerge that people who have no focus problem only use the center point and do not use AI SERVO mode.

This may explain why after six months we're just hearing about the problems now with my report.

1Ds3 buyers tend to be static object shooters.

tarn

 

[WalterSrChat]

focus at all at times on the canon 100mm macro, then only sluggishly.

Correct you need to understand why, which you obviously no not.
Hint read the 1Ds III manual

Unless you can point to a specific section of the manual that covers
using a 100mm macro as to why it wouldn't work with a 1Ds-Mk3 when it
does work with a 5D; then your post is just another RTM TROLL remark.

Would you read it if I did?

I tried the same lens under the same conditions at the same time on

You tried the same 100mm macro lens on the 5D and 1Ds III at the same
time! Not possible to have the same lens on two different cameras at
the same time in the real world.

I think most intelligent people understood what he meant.

Well, that eliminates you! ;

 

[barrie2504]

Cheers.

Barrie

 

[barrie2504]

I am at a loss to explain how you know so much about other photographers photographic techniques without you ever discussing the issue with them. Of course, such behavior is then very useful for you to go and make all sorts of assumptions that suit the case you attempt to argue.

The choice of a focus point does not tell you the photographer is shooting static subjects - but then there is no point explaining that is there - you are not about to listen. Also, the fact that I don't use rapid fire techniques does not tell you I am shooting static subjects.

Unfortunately the internet is full of all sorts of strange people - I myself have a friend who is employed by a company to deliberately spread misinformation about competitor's products on the internet - that is her full-time job!

If you seriously have a problem with a 1Ds3 I feel for you. It is an absolutely amazing piece of technology and it is unfortunate if you are unable to appreciate that - it would also be an expensive proposition.

Nevertheless, if that is the case you do have legal redress including the ability to simply get your money back and change to another brand if you can honestly demonstrate that the product cannot fulfill the purpose for which it was sold. Given that you have recourse to a solution, one has to wonder about the commercial motivation of your insistence on beating up a story that isn't there - contrast the widespread concerns regarding the real focus issues of the 1D3 with the lack of responses in relation to the 1Ds3.

Good luck in the resolution of your problem if you indeed even own the camera.

 

[stevetog]

Well perhaps you can tell me then why it does not focus when my 5D does in exactly the same conditions ? its on standard settings. Go on try & help me ?

 

[stevetog]

I have only properly tried one 1DS III, and it is not fine. It wont

So, you tried your colleague’s 1DS III and 100mm macro lens, and then
decided there was a problem!

well actually yes I did, because on standard focus setting the 1Ds does not focus, whereas the 5D did. Perhaps you can tell me what I need to alter to make it focus with this lens ?

focus at all at times on the canon 100mm macro, then only sluggishly.

Correct you need to understand why, which you obviously no not.
Hint read the 1Ds III manual.

Is there a special focus setting for the 100mm lens ? Or should the camera be off standard settings when putting the 100mmm lens on ? Please bear in mind I tried both macro and standard work with both cameras on this lens. At times the AF did not do anything on the 1DS, it was completely dead, not even hunting.

I tried the same lens under the same conditions at the same time on

You tried the same 100mm macro lens on the 5D and 1Ds III at the same
time! Not possible to have the same lens on two different cameras at
the same time in the real world.

Dont be a tw@t.......

my 5D and it was fine...... this is a colleagues 1Ds I am going to
try the latest firmware fix for her. Otherwise the camera will have
to go back to Canon like all the others..... I was toying with the

That seems to be the only way to verify that your problem is from a
lack of experience with the 1Ds III.

idea of the camera for myself later this year, but on this

Please do not purchase the 1Ds III, we already have enough complainers!

I am here to be educated on this camera please feel free to do so......

demonstration the AF is flawed.

If I find any AF flaws in my 1Ds III, they belong to me, and I have
the option to send the camera in for repair. After all I paid for
them, so you do not have to deal with them. I made the correct choice
for me.

That's great so let me have the benefit of your knowledge, why wont the 100mm macro work on thie 1Ds on standard focus settings ???

-

 

[Tarn Tantikij]

I am at a loss to explain how you know so much about other
photographers photographic techniques without you ever discussing the
issue with them. Of course, such behavior is then very useful for you
to go and make all sorts of assumptions that suit the case you
attempt to argue.

Thank you.

I've been waiting for that.

Now you know how the "other posters" feel when you say something like this:

Unlike some other posters on dpreview I don't have to wait for RG to
tell me if there is a focus issue...

tarn

 

[astirusty]

focus at all at times on the canon 100mm macro, then only sluggishly.

Correct you need to understand why, which you obviously no not.
Hint read the 1Ds III manual

Unless you can point to a specific section of the manual that covers
using a 100mm macro as to why it wouldn't work with a 1Ds-Mk3 when it
does work with a 5D; then your post is just another RTM TROLL remark.

Would you read it if I did?

Post the applicable page number & paragraph number or be label a RTM TROLL.

I tried the same lens under the same conditions at the same time on

You tried the same 100mm macro lens on the 5D and 1Ds III at the same
time! Not possible to have the same lens on two different cameras at
the same time in the real world.

I think most intelligent people understood what he meant.

Well, that eliminates you! ;

Actually it points to people like you who can do nothing more than make ignorant replies.

 

[Markuson]

Canon, will not release a firmware and call it the "Root Cause"
solution, because they want to leave the door open for more
firmware's to come. Did you also notice, to save face, the for the
first time ever I believe they added features to an existing camera.
They did this to help wipe the egg off of there face for the blunder
they have caused.

As I speculated on other threads, the root cause will likely be fixed
with the new models.

It's been nearly a year now, and many firmwares, folks.

I just returned from a youth track event...and guess which camera body produced the sharpest sprinters between my 5D and 1D3?

Hint: It wasn't the 1D3.



--
-----------------
A few Markuson Images...
Look-see at:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson

 

[Necip]

Like a previous poster I have used the 1Ds3 since January and have
got nothing but praise for the camera. My work does not use rapid
fire techniques and focus is the most accurate of any auto-focus
camera I have ever used - although I choose the focus point I want
because I cannot rely on the camera to know where I want it to focus

• to that end the recent firmware update to allow any focus point to

be chosen with the joy-stick is a very useful addition - this great
camera just got even better!

Unlike some other posters on dpreview I don't have to wait for RG to
tell me if there is a focus issue - if there was one in the way I
need to use this camera I would know it by now, and if I didn't my
editors would have told me in no uncertain terms.

Barrie

You use the autofocus in a certain limited way.

In a manner one could just as easily manually focus.

It would appear that the socalled "other posters" and RG use their
auto focus where it's really needed.

Then they encounter serious problems.

tarn

The type of shots I take I would say use the camera to it's limits of speed of focusing and accuracy, significantly more than just a runner running on a track which is childs play for a lot of camera's and I have no issues or problems. For someone who doesn't use a 1dmkIII you seem to always have a lot to say about it, what is your motives why the interest?

The 1dmkIII is the most accurate and has the most superior focussing system available on the planet when used with the most superior and perfect lens on the planet the 300mm f2.8LIS.

Feel free to browse my gallery you can see this 1dmkIII is worked to the limits and delivers perfection in focusing ability. Maybe you and other doubting Thomas's should go buy one and see for yourselves this cam is no lemon.

--
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http://photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=4130063

http://www.treknature.com/members/Necipp/photos/
http://www.treklens.com/members/NecipP/photos/

 

[brianric]

You use the autofocus in a certain limited way.

In a manner one could just as easily manually focus.

It would appear that the socalled "other posters" and RG use their
auto focus where it's really needed.

Then they encounter serious problems.

tarn

The type of shots I take I would say use the camera to it's limits of
speed of focusing and accuracy, significantly more than just a runner
running on a track which is childs play for a lot of camera's and I
have no issues or problems. For someone who doesn't use a 1dmkIII you
seem to always have a lot to say about it, what is your motives why
the interest?

He got burnt paying a 10% restocking fee on a 1Ds3, so now he slams Canon in retaliation.

The 1dmkIII is the most accurate and has the most superior focussing
system available on the planet when used with the most superior and
perfect lens on the planet the 300mm f2.8LIS.

I agree with the camera, don't know about the lens, as I don't have one. That's next year's purchase.

Maybe you and other doubting Thomas's should go buy one and see for
yourselves this cam is no lemon.

I did, sn 567xxx, and you are right.

 

[Steven S Miric]

I got 1Ds MKIII in April 2008, in Toronto.
Camera works great for what I use it for (stock).
The lenses I tried so far are:

35L
85L II
24L
24-70L

Zeiss 21/2.8
Zeiss 35PC

Results are more than I expected. Number of keeper images is bigger than with 1Ds MKII, and I know that out of focus samples are because human error, not camera error. I did not do any micro adjustments with the lenses I tried since the first samples with each lens were good. I was pleased with 24-70 results, especially after reading some bad experiences on this forum. What really surprised me was the result from 85L MKII: this is a stellar lens/camera combo.

Here is the bottom line:

I do not believe that the 1DsMKIII is flawed as 1DMKII. I think the whole issue is overblown. I think it has to do a lot with introductions of Nikon competition and the feeling that a great deal of forum posters are anxious to get rid of the Canon and get the Nikon, because it's a newest toy. Collective memory is so short, and most of the people don't remember that the same thing happened few years ago when everybody was trashing Nikon and going to Canon.

Yes, there is a chance that some units are lemons as with any other product. But, come on. Not in theses numbers...

I for one, have been over this story once already with my Leica M8 system. Yes, my first M8 body had a problem. Twice. First it was at the service in NJ. Second time, I got the brand new replacement. No issues since than. I have been using M8 system for more than year for my travel stock, and the investment paid off. Same goes with my EOS kit. If there is an issue with the camera, there is a warranty. Use it.

Again, I see to many people testing these cameras till death with crazy unreal situations, shooting traffic signs from te window of the apartment or shooting runners on the parking lot to prove the point. I don't do that. I test my camera when I shoot to keep. I don't go out to try to trick the camera to get a blurry shot. Life is too short...
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http://www.stevenmiric.com