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hi. thinking about getting this cam for the wide angle. have one question. what is the composition of the body? is it metal or plastic? thanks. lisa
 
As far as I can see the body is mostly metal, some extra parts are plastic, similar to the GRD, picture seen somewhere else:

 
Hello everyone

There is a lot more plastic than you think.
The whole top of the body is made off plastic.
Also the complete handgrip and memorycard door.
You can easely feel what part is made off plastic or
metal with your lips.
When it feels cold that part is made of metal.
try it and you wil see.

wilnis
 
Blackmarket Leica traders in Minnesota back alleys are often seen with cameras hanging off their tongues in winter time, after they'd given the camera's top plate a quick lick to test that they'd been passed the genuine article. These poor addicts will never learn the perils of subzero metal.
Hello everyone

There is a lot more plastic than you think.
The whole top of the body is made off plastic.
Also the complete handgrip and memorycard door.
You can easely feel what part is made off plastic or
metal with your lips.
When it feels cold that part is made of metal.
try it and you wil see.

wilnis
 
yes-but the point is that the important bits ,where it serves,are metal.The knobs on the GX100 are certainly as or more robust than other makes.

I have mounted a FL40flash on this cameras hot shoe with no problems.That flash is heavier and bigger than the camera.Perhaps we should say i mounted the camera on the flash...

The strength of the various knobs,wheels etc is important.My C5050z has a very weak exposure control wheel.Breakage is very common.I've been lucky so far.
The GX100 seems better made from this view.
The lenses are made from plastic (except for the glass of course)

Certainly no one is making cameras (apart from leica and similar) like they used to.Something to do with progress and costs.

As to the battery door on the GX100 - you can use aaa cells in there but I didnt like the pressure on the door,so thats really for emergencies only as far as i am concerned.

If the price is right (what you can afford) buy a Gx100.

b rgds

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paul
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These lucky Leica addicts, try this with a fully equipped SLR/batterypack. No tongue anymore, prices will drop.
Blackmarket Leica traders in Minnesota back alleys are often seen
with cameras hanging off their tongues in winter time, after they'd
given the camera's top plate a quick lick to test that they'd been
passed the genuine article. These poor addicts will never learn the
perils of subzero metal.
 
It's not really the body you have to worry about, it is quite strong.

The lens mounting assembly is not, however, and you'll have to get used to the lens moving around disconcertingly. That may also be a factor in the seemingly above-average tendency of this camera to develop dust spots on the sensor that are visible on the images.

Make sure you know how the camera will be serviced, by whom, and how long it will take BEFORE you plunk down your money. I would not recommend doing a mail order of this camera if you are then isolated from someone to talk with if you have problems, though there are people in this forum that seem to have had no problems buying that way.
 
It's not really the body you have to worry about, it is quite strong.
I agree. Holding the GX100 gives me the impression that it's a very sturdy and well built camera.
The lens mounting assembly is not, however, and you'll have to get
used to the lens moving around disconcertingly. That may also be a
factor in the seemingly above-average tendency of this camera to
develop dust spots on the sensor that are visible on the images.
This is where I have to disagree. I know you've surely had your dose of problems, so I can certainly understand your frustration. But to claim an "above average" tendency to develop problems, is use of fuzzy statistics. People experiencing problems tend to speak up about it. People without, tend to keep quiet. So, judging a camera's reliability or tendency to develop problems from a forum like this surely opens for what I'd call fuzzy statistics.

I have worn out other brands of digital cameras, SD cards and so on. And I had to have our prime brand LCD TV being repaired almost the day after we bought it. These unfortunate things happen, and every maker should try to minimize the need for repairs. But as long as repair is possible, it's not all that bad.

Do I have any data indicating Ricoh's cameras are worse than other brands? No. So please share the info/facts if you have come across any.

Buying a GX100 is, for most people in the USA/Canada, a phone/web experience since there are only two vendors. But they are both good and indeed trustworthy, so I would not worry about that part.

Again, I do sympathize with you because of the problems you've had/have. But your experience is not enough to conclude that Ricoh's cameras are any worse/better than other brands.

Cheers
Roger

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Yes, I remember that one quite vividly.

But I still fail to see how that helps establishing statistics good enough for any conclusions other than describing the incidents mentioned in the thread.

I for one, didn't participate in that thread, which again excludes me from the population the fuzzy statistics is based on. But I do own a GX100...

Cheers
Roger
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My longer postings on this topic always point out that I have been unable to get any statistical validation of my hypothesis--and that is all that it is--that at least the Ricoh GX100 has a higher probability of failure than other cameras. I am not trying to prove that point through statistics. More accurately, I have not been able to do that.

The "anecdotal" basis for the hypothesis is simply a lot of prior experience with a lot of cameras, none of which have shown these tendencies, and the seemingly high frequency (relative to the small number of English speaking purchasers of the GX100) of similar problems (lens assembly/dust spotting) that SEEMS to point to a problem. I understand that "anecdotal" data may lead other owners/users to completely different conclusions.

Hard statistical data, which it seems we are unlikely to get, would be a better alternative than ANY anecdotal speculation. In the meantime, however, a prospective new owner would, I hope, benefit from both perspectives. I know that previous postings, including those of the one-time GX100 aficionado lucridders, were very helpful in my realization that the problem(s) with my camera were dust related.
 

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