News photographer in Iraq accused of insurgent ties

[canonpro]

Pulitzer Prize winning photographer connected with Iraq Insurgent ties...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/photographer.detained/index.html

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[BrowserBug]

Just curious, is there any intention here besides starting an inevitable political flame war? Or do you pretend to be privy to some secret information you will share with us?

 

[phototext]

If anyone is interested:

The free Bilal Hussein site.

http://www.freebilal.org/

AP on Bilal Hussein.

http://www.ap.org/bilalhussein/

 

[JRP64]

AP on Bilal Hussein.

http://www.ap.org/bilalhussein/

Found that link very interesting and different from what the big News Networks have been reporting.

 

[Bali_Mirage]

Found that link very interesting and different from what the big News
Networks have been reporting.

What do you think the AP is?
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[phototext]

Haven't seen much on Bilal on mainstream news sites.

EPUK has had his detention highlighted for a while.

http://www.epuk.org/

Have a look at

http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=20

for more info on the detention of journalists and photographers etc.

AP on Bilal Hussein.

http://www.ap.org/bilalhussein/

Found that link very interesting and different from what the big News
Networks have been reporting.

 

[Dayo]

Really scary how someone can just be locked away without trial for over a year just like that. Great way to ensure support.

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[Franka T.L.]

The story is open to debate, but yet the way the US / US military handling it is but a sad affair. For whatever cause or reason, this chap at least should be granted his right to lawyers and a fair trial.

And all that just made people wonder, if the US, just want to be the big brother, letting you know their propaganda only while not allowing any story from the other side to be told. Which unfortunately increasingly look like the case ( not helped by the self indulgence of many press who fail to show all side of the story either, especially those US/UK ones )

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[MusicmanUK]

The story is open to debate, but yet the way the US / US military
handling it is but a sad affair. For whatever cause or reason, this
chap at least should be granted his right to lawyers and a fair trial.

Reading the AP story, it doesn't even seem that an acquittal by an Iraqi court would guarantee his freedom if the US military consider he's still a threat.

http://www.ap.org/pages/about/whatsnew/wn_112007b.html

Tomlin, however, said that freedom for Bilal Hussein, who is not related
to the cameraman working for CBS, isn't guaranteed even if the judge
rejects the eventual U.S. charges. The military can indefinitely hold
suspects considered security risks in Iraq.

"Even if he comes out the other side with an acquittal — as we certainly
hope and trust that he will — there is no guarantee that he won't go right
back into detention as a security risk.

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[200mm]

Just curious, is there any intention here besides starting an
inevitable political flame war? Or do you pretend to be privy to some
secret information you will share with us?

--lol, you just started.

Roger.

Amateurs worry about sharpness.
Professionals worry about sales.
Photographers worry about light.

 

[jgb]

Pulitzer Prize winning photographer connected with Iraq Insurgent
ties...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/photographer.detained/index.html

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[Chato]

Pulitzer Prize winning photographer connected with Iraq Insurgent
ties...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/11/19/photographer.detained/index.html

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It's a message from the United States that if you get into their black book, you can expect to be treated as an animal...

Guilty? Innocent? This is all besides the point. They are holding him on evidence that they didn't feel strong enough to bring to Court, and even now, they have no evidence strong enouugh to bring to Court. Turning him over to the Iraqi's for "trial" is just sauce on the situation.

Rule of law? They couldn't care less.

Dave

 

[jgb]

nt

 

[Bali_Mirage]

It's a message from the United States that if you get into their
black book, you can expect to be treated as an animal...

Guilty? Innocent? This is all besides the point. They are holding him
on evidence that they didn't feel strong enough to bring to Court,
and even now, they have no evidence strong enouugh to bring to Court.
Turning him over to the Iraqi's for "trial" is just sauce on the
situation.

Rule of law? They couldn't care less.

Boo Hoo.

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[Chato]

It's a message from the United States that if you get into their
black book, you can expect to be treated as an animal...

Guilty? Innocent? This is all besides the point. They are holding him
on evidence that they didn't feel strong enough to bring to Court,
and even now, they have no evidence strong enouugh to bring to Court.
Turning him over to the Iraqi's for "trial" is just sauce on the
situation.

Rule of law? They couldn't care less.

Boo Hoo.

I'm sure you would say the same thing if you were locked up for a year and a half, with or without access to lawyers.

And what exactly is this guy being charged with? One would think they could name ONE specific crime. Instead he's being charged with being able to take award winning photographs. Could you explain to us, how this "helps" our enemies?

I await with baited breath how this man aided the insurgents by winning the Pulitzer Prize.

Opps, sorry, I forgot, he's been accused, therefore must be guilty.

Dave

 

[phototext]

Bali_Mirage,

"Boohoo" seems a funny reaction from someone from Taiwan, what with China and all, but I suppose without U.S support China would have rolled into Taiwan long ago.

Perhaps you would like to think about the big picture implications of such actions by U.S forces and what that means to freedom of press, freedom of information.

It's a message from the United States that if you get into their
black book, you can expect to be treated as an animal...

Guilty? Innocent? This is all besides the point. They are holding him
on evidence that they didn't feel strong enough to bring to Court,
and even now, they have no evidence strong enouugh to bring to Court.
Turning him over to the Iraqi's for "trial" is just sauce on the
situation.

Rule of law? They couldn't care less.

Boo Hoo.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/cantikfotos

 

[Bali_Mirage]

Bali_Mirage,

"Boohoo" seems a funny reaction from someone from Taiwan, what with
China and all, but I suppose without U.S support China would have
rolled into Taiwan long ago.

Perhaps you would like to think about the big picture implications of
such actions by U.S forces and what that means to freedom of press,
freedom of information.

The same could be said for an Australian since the Japanese were ready to roll into Australia 60 years ago........and let's not forget Indonesia. If they ever decide to head south it will be the US (and only the US) that be able to come save you again.

The photographer in question seems to have an uncanny ability to be exactly where allied forces are being ambushed and where kidnapped foreigners are being executed. Do you think it's because he's some kind of super journalist?

During the Vietnam War, Pham Xuan An worked as a reporter for Time and Reuters in Saigon. He was also a spy for the North Vietnamese. He and others like him had a great effect on the outcome of the war.

The foreign news agencies in Iraq are simply following an old tradition of relying on local stringers who's loyalty is questionable at best. It's no coincidence that their reporting mirrors the agencies anti-american agenda.

 

[LeRentier]

There is no doubt in my mind that the evidence against this fellow is as irrefutable as the evidence of weapons of mass destruction.

I just don't understand how anyone in his right mind would ever doubt anything that is presented by the Bush administration.

People don't seem to understand that, when a photographer takes a shot of a person, the photons create that irrefutable tie and the evidence than get stored on SD or CF cards.

In this case it is not the photographer who steals the souls of those people whose picture he takes, it is the subjects he sees in hiw viewfinder that capture his soul and convert it into a terrorist.

 

[Chato]

Bali_Mirage,

"Boohoo" seems a funny reaction from someone from Taiwan, what with
China and all, but I suppose without U.S support China would have
rolled into Taiwan long ago.

Perhaps you would like to think about the big picture implications of
such actions by U.S forces and what that means to freedom of press,
freedom of information.

The same could be said for an Australian since the Japanese were
ready to roll into Australia 60 years ago........and let's not forget
Indonesia. If they ever decide to head south it will be the US (and
only the US) that be able to come save you again.

The photographer in question seems to have an uncanny ability to be
exactly where allied forces are being ambushed and where kidnapped
foreigners are being executed. Do you think it's because he's some
kind of super journalist?

During the Vietnam War, Pham Xuan An worked as a reporter for Time
and Reuters in Saigon. He was also a spy for the North Vietnamese. He
and others like him had a great effect on the outcome of the war.

He had what this guy doesn't - Access to the US Army.

The foreign news agencies in Iraq are simply following an old
tradition of relying on local stringers who's loyalty is questionable
at best. It's no coincidence that their reporting mirrors the
agencies anti-american agenda.

Strange, you STILL haven't given an example of how he aided the enemy. He never went around with US troops...

And even stranger, NO ONE has given an explanation of how he "aided" the enemy.

So, sure, let's condemn him. He's obviously "guilty" of something.

Dave

 

[Chato]

There is no doubt in my mind that the evidence against this fellow is
as irrefutable as the evidence of weapons of mass destruction.
I just don't understand how anyone in his right mind would ever doubt
anything that is presented by the Bush administration.
People don't seem to understand that, when a photographer takes a
shot of a person, the photons create that irrefutable tie and the
evidence than get stored on SD or CF cards.
In this case it is not the photographer who steals the souls of those
people whose picture he takes, it is the subjects he sees in hiw
viewfinder that capture his soul and convert it into a terrorist.

Maybe he IS a spy? From comments on this thread, one would think that being told (he's not even charged) is enough...

Meanwhile if Scott McClelen is to be believed, the President commited treason to the country, and this incredible story is buried by the press.

Dave