Casio shown prototype next generation DC ( 60fps )

[Geir Ove]

Hello,

I fly an ELA Gyrocopter: One interesting challenge is to Track the rotor blades (make sure they fly in the same plane). I tried using a film camera, but it is way to slow. 300 FPS pro gear costs $10.000 and up....

So, when this baby is realeased, I will buy one for sure: And I have already have a DSLR.

10 + points to Casio for coming up with something NEW and Innovative.

See me flying my ELA 07 Gyro here: http://www.objective.no/gyro/ela/ela_07_i_norge.htm

Norwegian ELA Distributor
http://www.objective.no/gyro/ela/

Geir Ove
Norway

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[iso rivolta]

The preburst mode is interesting. Are there any other current models
that have this feature?

Olympus SP-550 and SP-560 have the so called "pre-capture". SP-550 buffers the last 5 images before pressing the shutter button at a resolution of only 1.2 Mpx. SP-560 buffers the previous 10 images at the same low resolution.

 

[bokzy]

Additional (noisy, though, taken by some compact visible in reflection) images of Casio's prototype:

http://www.engadget.com/photos/hands-on-with-casios-60fps-digital-camera/

And some more info on Sony's CMOS:

http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol47/featuring.html

Looks very interesting, although I believe this is just an early sign of upcoming generation of cameras with new Sony's CMOS.

 

[mstar]

10 + points to Casio for coming up with something NEW and Innovative.

Absolutely. I even filled out the survey on their site telling them the same thing. And I normally ignore that kind of thing.

If this thing is priced appropriately, I'm all over it--and I have a DSLR too.

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[Diopter]

I agree, we have to wait for more mature packaging to a new sensor. Who knows, maybe just a matter of days?

Long zoom is the last, what I need in this type of camera right now. What is for sure - end of D(oubious) SLR is coming soon - as expected.
To have bigger picture of near future, please see an almost ignored thread here:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=24529211
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[Diopter]

... is also eye-cathing in provided samples

 

[digital_ray_of_light]

As Casio puts it on their news page title

• http://www.casio.co.jp/release/2007/ngdc.html -

It is almost certain that it use the newer generation of sensor that
can take very quick sequential capture as in the text the highlight
of the DC prototype is

• 1/1.8" 6.6MP sensor ( CMOS ) with sensor based Anti-Shake
• 60fps super high speed capture ( sequential capture )
• 300fps Video
• your typical 12X zoom that equate 35-420 at 2.7-4.6

This may given an out for manufacturers to stop the megapixel wars and start the FPS wars. The latter would have the benefit of making the cameras faster!

And since more megapixels means lower FPS - other things equal, this might be the out engineers needed to stop the silly marketing megapixel wars (and start the FPS wars?)

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[Diamond2a]

It's 60fps for 10bit 6mp images, 15fps for 12bit "high quality images"

not sure what the difference is, but 15fps is still class leading.

I'll give this camera a look if it has the 'fundamentals' down (ISO, usable EVF, good handling, IQ)
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[Daniel Card]

Might it have problems with shutter life by doing so many exposures?
Or does a digicam like this not suffer from that kind of problem? I
do know DSLR's and digicams use a different kind of shutter.

It has an electronic shutter, which means nothing mechanical. Or another way of thinking about it, is it doesn't have a shutter, just decides to record or not.

 

[Martin Setvak]

Since the camera will be fast enough, it shouldn't be a big problem to implement also a reasonable timelapse (interval shooting) mode ... starting at 1 second (or even shorter), no limit of images which can be taken in this mode ... I already suggested this to them on their questionnaire page.

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[sharpsh00ter]

Since the camera will be fast enough, it shouldn't be a big problem
to implement also a reasonable timelapse (interval shooting) mode ...
starting at 1 second (or even shorter), no limit of images which can
be taken in this mode ... I already suggested this to them on their
questionnaire page.

I agree good timelapse would make it a very interesting camera combined with the slow motion ability. A great second camera to my DSLR, although this may make a very good 1st and only camera to many people.

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[optical_illusion]

Not sure if this was already posted, but amazing demo here.
http://dc.casio.jp/ngdc/features3.html

I think its pre-capture mode seems quite useful.
http://dc.casio.jp/ngdc/features2.html
Thanks to this feature, we won't miss shutter chance though it's not a DSLR.

 

[JohnMcL7]

I believe the S7000 had something similar, when you held the shutter button it would start taking pictures and fill the buffer but save none of them. Each new shot would cause the oldest picture in the buffer to be discarded until you released the shutter button it would then save the five images sitting in the buffer.

John

 

[kessler]

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[Snoz]

Did anyone notice there appears to be two flash bulbs in the pop-up flash ? There also appears to be a continuous flash mode on the second dial on the top. I'm wondering if this is some kind of onboard strobe ?

 

[nokedli]

60fps is already enough to fool the eyes to make it sees continous
motion. Any more is a waste of storage space. Anybody knows why
Casio would do this?

I would definitely have a use for this. I study (among other things) insect behavior, and some events are way too fast to be caught on my 30FPS camera. 300 fps would be incredibly useful to really see what's going on.

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[D Q E]

One thing I did learn in my exploration of commercial high speed
cameras is that you need a lot of light cause at 300fps your shutter
speed has to be at least 1/300s. You'd need ISO sensitivities of
6400 to achieve this in anything but bright sunlight. They must be
binning the pixels like the recent Oly's with 6400 ISO ?

Eh? I use shutter speeds shorter than 1/250sec daily with resorting to ultra-high ISO or lighting equipment.

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[kessler]

It seems like this can be used to capture images in multiple time slices, for that matter why not have only a single super small f-stop so that when a use dials in 1/60 what they get is X stacked slices and when a user dial in 1/30 they get 2X slices. This might simplify the electronics and would be totally awesome for dynamic range, which would be only limited by the well capacity during the very small time slice. If this sum where done on the fly then there would be no storage issue, just fabulous DR. I guess it come down to what fraction of that short time slice is spent capturing light versus reading out the data.

-m

 

[Greg_WT]

The preburst mode is interesting. Are there any other current models
that have this feature?

Nikon D90 MindProbe Technology comes in mind (negative shutter delay):

http://yourphotoarchive.com/laugh.htm

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Greg

 

[Diamond2a]

I saw that too, I agree with the strobe theory
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