Why the Mark III was leaked...

it´s quite clear that they want the wind out of nikon´s sails. Why introduce it just before a nikon anouncement! it´s not even for sale this year!

it´s more like: look what we got......it's gona be better then ......
 
I don't agree with ya, they could have announced itin september, if they wanted too, why just before nikon is announcing new stuff, huh?! It won't be for sale untill a few months, so, it is quite clear they wanna steal the show!
 
you do realize that if you're going to roundoff a statistic you
always round up at 5 right? So, if given the choice between 10% or
15% then 15% is the correct description. (personally I'd say 12.5% or
13%)
Actually you can choose to round of to 10´s or 0,1´s or what ever. Right? So 10% is for me more like a almost precise estimation, given with 1 figure precision, and 15 % is given with 2 figure precision, and the second is false. So actually you might say what you like, but mathematically 10% or 12,5% is much more correct than to say 15% that is simply flawed. And the point was that someone posted fine observation of about 10% difference per axis in resolution, and the response from someone was it is closer to 15%. It definately is EXACTLY as far from 15% than it is from 10%, and if you want the resolution to be enough in any project where you need A3 in 300 dpi or what ever, you are much more in safe side if you roundoff to a smaller figure... (?).

So I would suggest going back to school to study mathematics before you start teaching me the basics...

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Osku
 
you do realize that if you're going to roundoff a statistic you
always round up at 5 right? So, if given the choice between 10% or
15% then 15% is the correct description. (personally I'd say 12.5% or
13%)
Actually you can choose to round of to 10´s or 0,1´s or what ever.
Right?
Uh, no that's not right, unless your universe is different from the one the rest of us live in right now. Perhaps Finland does round down, but then that's the annomoly, not the norm.
So 10% is for me more like a almost precise estimation, given
with 1 figure precision, and 15 % is given with 2 figure precision,
and the second is false. So actually you might say what you like, but
mathematically 10% or 12,5% is much more correct than to say 15% that
is simply flawed.
10% is just as flawed as 15%. Most people/countries round up, so the closest point is 13% (on that I think we agree), but only someone trying to minimize the improvement would say 10%. In this case, I think the shoe fits.....
And the point was that someone posted fine
observation of about 10% difference per axis in resolution, and the
response from someone was it is closer to 15%. It definately is
EXACTLY as far from 15% than it is from 10%, and if you want the
resolution to be enough in any project where you need A3 in 300 dpi
or what ever, you are much more in safe side if you roundoff to a
smaller figure... (?).

So I would suggest going back to school to study mathematics before
you start teaching me the basics...
Hmmmm... I hope you're pondering doing the same. :)
 
You don't know since no-one knows what to expect thisi week. it could be a d1III killer with higher pixel count and more fps!
 
Actually you can choose to round of to 10´s or 0,1´s or what ever.
Right?
Uh, no that's not right, unless your universe is different from the
one the rest of us live in right now. Perhaps Finland does round
down, but then that's the annomoly, not the norm.
Osku is exactly right. And last time I looked Finland rates much higher in basic math education than the USA (sorry but true).
So 10% is for me more like a almost precise estimation, given
with 1 figure precision, and 15 % is given with 2 figure precision,
and the second is false. So actually you might say what you like, but
mathematically 10% or 12,5% is much more correct than to say 15% that
is simply flawed.
10% is just as flawed as 15%. Most people/countries round up, so the
closest point is 13% (on that I think we agree), but only someone
trying to minimize the improvement would say 10%. In this case, I
think the shoe fits.....
As Osku said mathematically 12.5 is exactly as close to 10 as 15. And mathematically there is no general convention to round off up or down in this case. A general convention would be to round off 12.5 to 10 instead of 20 if you want to stay with one significant number. If you want to stay with two significant digits you could say 12 or 13 as well. It would be mathematically necessary to round off 12.5 to 13 only if there would be some digits after the .5 in the raw data. That is if you know your math.

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Kaj
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WSSA member
 
is it lossless? It could simply be cheating, by using compression to speed up processing.
 
Could it be in anticipation of Nikon moving forward with the D3
release? I think 21 megapixels is going to be tough to beat, perhaps
they want to send Nikon back to the drawing board.

Thoughts?
More likely it was to take the spotlight off the 1D Mk III AF
problems for a few days.
Well we can look forward to the following:

"I have a 1DsIII and it does not focus properly, especially when my dog is coming towards me."

"The sensor clean does not work. I wiped my bottom on the sensor and I can still see smears in the images."

"Where is the MLU button?"

"Why when I press the print button does not a print appear? And where do I put the paper?"

"Why do so many people use Zeiss/Leica/Nikon lenses on their 1DsIII?"

And so on.
 
I have been more than happy and satisfied with the 8MP my 1DMKII gives me. I owned Nikon religiously prior to that. I jumped because Nikon could not give me what I needed for my shooting. I'm not whining, personally I could care less about this MP war. Quality is what I need. When I need good High ISO because of indoor sports shoots that don't allow flash, I know my camera will give me what I need. When clients refused the images from the D100, D1x and D2H because of noise, that was the last time I put faith into Nikon. Especially when I was told by a Nikon rep "users don't need that feature" which was ISO100 in the case I asked about that. When a company tries to tell the public what they need, the company puts themselves behind the 8-ball, which is where Nikon has been for a while now.

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A picture is no longer worth a 1000 words, it's worth about 5MB.
 
Of course not. A good photograph due to the talent of the person behind the lens? That would be a groundbreaking concept. :o) All kidding aside, the general population is too keyed up on specs and reputation. A great camera does not make a great photographer.

You are right, there are those that are brand loyal and personally, I don't understand why. The way I see it, Nikon did nothing for me. I could defend they honor because I am a Nikonite, but will they do the same for me when a stock agency refuses my images due to a lack of technical quality or due to untolerable image noise? No. It's a dog eat dog world and we use the tools that give us what we need. If Canon falls behind and has a "we will tell you what you need" attitude, the same way Nikon has had for years now, will I jump back to Nikon, you bet.
Well, the 1DMKII sent the D2x back to the drawing board. We'll see
how Nikon responds. They were supposed to announce the new body last
month, after the 1DMKIII was announced. History has a way of
repeating itself...
The last thing anyone wants is for Nikon to be feature for feature
comparable to Canon. If that happens, then it would come down to the
skill of the photographer, and we wouldn't want that, would we?

When I opened my studio, I had the money to by a 1Ds MkII, but I
chose the Nikon D2x. Why? Because I was the one who wrote the check
and besides, I liked Nikon better. But the issue is not which camera
is better, it's what you do with it. Here's a shot I took Saturday at
a Baptism, using my archaic, before the drawing board, Nikon D70:

The way I see it, it's like the Apple vs. Microsoft debate. Microsoft
has the money, but most everyone in the know, knows that Apple users
are totally loyal and would not own a PC. The same can be said about
Nikon.

So when Nikon, comes out with it's next pro body, if it's anything
like Thom Hogan implies, would you like your crow barbecued or
grilled? If I'm wrong, I'll have mine deep fried. :^)

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A picture is no longer worth a 1000 words, it's worth about 5MB.
 
Sorry Jan -- But that photo just shows that you need to know how to set white balance properly... regardless of camera or brand!

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Joe Braun Photography
http://www.citrusmilo.com/
 
Why would Nikon go back to the drawing board? The D2Hs at 4MPwas up against Canons 8MP 1DMarkII and the D2Xs at 12.4MP was up against the 1DsMarkII.

It seems to me that Nikon are more interested in functionality and ease of use not resolution.
 
Oops... Meant to address that to JoeRocket. Sorry Jan!
 
I quite often see people with their Cannons and big long L glass on big tripods at some of my favorite spots. I smile and wave, then go about my business carrying my D100 and short zoom.

They probably get better shots than I do, but I'll bet it has nothing to do with all that weight they are carrying around and the money they spent. if they do.
 
Sorry Jan -- But that photo just shows that you need to know how to
set white balance properly... regardless of camera or brand!

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Joe Braun Photography
http://www.citrusmilo.com/
Wow, and I didn't even ask for a critique. Sigh! People are so quick to lose a point it astonishes me. Regarding the red cast or magenta look and the recently posted dig on my ability to set a white balance, I used a Nik Color Efex Pro 2.0 filter to add the red cast; I like the look for this image.

The point I was trying to make was that you don't need an 8K camera to take a decent image. I used a 3 year old D70 with a Nikkor 50mm f1.4 lens to get this shot.

Here's the original.



and my preferred look:



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I see dead pixels!
 
Wow, and I didn't even ask for a critique. Sigh! People are so quick
to lose a point it astonishes me. Regarding the red cast or magenta
Actually I only bothered to comment because I thought it was ironic. If I told you that you didn't need a D200, all you need is a Coolpix 990, and then I showed you a Coolpix shot that was fuzzy or had bad color, you might point out to me that the image wasn't exactly supporting my point. But I had no idea you were actually introducing that cast on purpose, so sorry. -Joe
 
Oh - it was on purpose - disregard my critique... But I find the original much better, albeit with flat colors. I got your original point, but difficult to keep my mouth shut (or rather, fingers still) when I see an image...
Wow, and I didn't even ask for a critique. Sigh! People are so quick
to lose a point it astonishes me. Regarding the red cast or magenta
look and the recently posted dig on my ability to set a white
balance, I used a Nik Color Efex Pro 2.0 filter to add the red cast;
I like the look for this image.

The point I was trying to make was that you don't need an 8K camera
to take a decent image. I used a 3 year old D70 with a Nikkor 50mm
f1.4 lens to get this shot.

Here's the original.



and my preferred look:



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I see dead pixels!
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