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Sounds like a great program, but it makes me wonder how many think you can't adjust things in jpegs. I can see how someone might get that impression from reading threads here. The truth is that exposure, white balance and almost any thing else is readilly adjustable with jpeg images. Mainly you just need to remember not to make a change or two and save and then make more changes and save again. Each time you save a jpeg there is some possibility of artifacts and compression losses so only save after all corrections have been done. Maybe you have more latitude with raw, but you would have to be really off to not have enough with jpeg's.
 
Thanks Andrew,

Is there any difference in terms of editing for d80 versus another? I presume not as once it's converted it is just like any other image?

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I thought the same thing, I could get the same results as the OP with either NX or PS with just the brightness control and better results with levels.....I am not bashing Toneup....Its a great program at a truely wonderful price......I own it and would buy it again.
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No. No diff. in editing D80 images. You can do all the same things as (say) for D50 down to editing the curve embedded in the NEF so, in this respect, it's really a great program. I did write that DCRaw engine isn't as good as the Nikon one or ToneUp native one for D50 but I wouldn't like anybody to be discouraged by this statement. Let me put it in some perspective:

I strive to have all my settings right in the camera and when converting from NEF to JPG, I like the converter to apply all the "in camera" settings. I normally batch the conversion. Than, when I see that I need to change the curve or exposure (not too often), I go back to NEF and manually adjust. In a sense, I would be shooting in JPG if not for one or two images out of a 100-200 shots session but, for these one or two, NEF is beneficial. It also means that, for me, the best is a converter that properly implements the "in camera" settings. Now; the current ToneUp D80 NEF converter set to default (use in camera settings) will produce most images that are (to me) indistinguishable from Capture NX default conversions. Than, on occasion, it will produce an image that will have just a touch less detail in the highlights (when using DCRaw engine) or an image that looks a bit (say) flat when using the ToneUp native converter. In both cases, spending little time, the images can be adjusted in ToneUp to shine so, for somebody who is editing all the images, that is not an issue at all. For somebody who likes editing, it's hardly an inconvenience. For somebody like me who doesn't really enjoy editing... well, it puts ToneUp into secondary position as a converter. Still, I wouldn't be without it because of some of it's features - it can do curves editing in the way that Capture can't match and for the few images that I do edit, I like to play with curves as one of the first adjustments.

For D50, I run a lot of original NEFs through ToneUp and compared them to the same NEFs run through Capture. In my eyes, it was a virtually perfect match every single time. Looking hard enough, I could see some minor differences but could hardly ever decide which one was better or, was it my eyes playing tricks on me. Now, my D50 is converted to IR and ToneUp does fantastic job with these. Not only better curve tool than in Capture but also, channel reversing whenever I desire to do so - a feature that doesn't even exist in Capture and requires several steps in other editing software.

All in all; I think that getting ToneUp was one of the best money I ever spent on photography software and I'd buy it again without hesitation even if the only camera I was using was D80.
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What tone up is doing with exp comp for jpegs is as far as I know quite unique. I suppose you can do the same with curves or levels, but just using a slider is what I till now only saw in RAW converters. It's very convenient.

That's what I would point out: one more reason for staying with jpegs, you can do everything with them what you can do with RAW. With picasa I can adjust wB with one click, with Tone Up I can drag the slider for EC, etc.
(not intending to go into an discussion of jpeg vs RAW here).
 
GPSMapNut said:
Just to be clear; ToneUp can do D80 NEF conversion using DCRaw RAW
engine which is good but not as good as Nikon's.
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hey Todd, can I just say something.

this is another thing I love about your program. the fact that there are two different converters available. I usually try to open a file using both, and even though I prefer the nikon 9/10 times, every once in a while you will have an image that just pops using the dcraw engine. I cant explain it but sometimes the nikon conversion just does not do as well as the dcraw. 1/10 times maybe
 
Hi,

Sorry for the delayed answer - ToneUp will allow tethered shooting of any USB camera (including the D80).

The tethered shooting feature allows you to fire the shutter and transfer images back to the PC. It also allows you to do time lapse photography by specifying a delay between N shutter actuations.

Hope that helps

Todd
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RAL131504 said:
Mainly you just need to remember not
to make a change or two and save and then make more changes and
save again. Each time you save a jpeg there is some possibility of
artifacts and compression losses so only save after all corrections
have been done.
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And remember, that when you shoot jpeg, the first convert/save action that you are advising to skip is done in the camera. Some highlight and shadow details are lost forever. 12 bit pixels are downsampled to 8. No, thanks, I will shoot raw.

sergei
 
Yeah, ToneUp is a great program - all the quality of Nikon software without the awkward/slow performance.

And the best bit about it is that Todd, the developer, is always very accommodating and quick with feature requests. I know I'll be submitting a few more requests soon :-)

Stephen

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I must be missing something as I liked the untouched image best. I found the touched up image lost some detail and was too light and the sky lacked any color and the tank lost that ominous look.

It probably be better to post an image like an English garden and house (my favorite scene) and compare colors.
Thanks for posting the pics and hope to get the program perhaps.
Jeff
 
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