Norton Internet is a bomb

My disillusionment with Norton set in after I recently noticed several trojans on my machine, incluiding one mass email mailer, despite running it constantly. It's not worth the overhead for that level of efficiency.
Of the past half dozen Windows machines I've had to fix for friends and relatives all we're running either Norton or McAfee security suites. In each case the Trojan/Malware had no problems getting around this worthless bloatware.

When the Blaster virus reared it's ugly head some years ago I saw a fleet of corporate laptops get infected while the norton security client did nothing. At least the software firewalls were smart enough to alert you that something was going on, which is all the software firewalls are good for - telling you your're screwed after the fact.

Yet with all this, people in this thread still insist on sending Symantec shareholders $35 and bloating down their systems while Russian trojan/malware writers also install the same software on their boxes to learn how to get around it and laugh their fool heads off.

All the legitimate Windows security suites have concluded the number #1 security defense against malicious software is to not use an account with admin rights for regular use. Yet I see most people in this thread are too lazy to do this, or don't know how. Trust me, the outsourced Indian engineer that has their job in three years will know how.
 
but people always seem to think that if it is free it must be rubbish. I feel sorry for them.
 
Years...

Anyone who knows anything about computers..knows that Norton and McCafee stink......

And thanks to norton..they took out sygate...bought them out..which is called free firewall competition elmination..not impressive.

Words spring to mind..not touch bargepole
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All the legitimate Windows security suites have concluded the
number #1 security defense against malicious software is to not use
an account with admin rights for regular use. Yet I see most people
in this thread are too lazy to do this, or don't know how. Trust
me, the outsourced Indian engineer that has their job in three
years will know how.
Have to say though that it's people WITHOUT administrative rights who keep introducing bugs and trojans to the network where I work, not the ones with them.

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You are one arrogant, self righteous little man Scott. Reading through your posts in this thread gives a good insight to your character. I mean, in this thread wtf has Quicktime got to with anything? Why should the OP brush up on their Security knowledge? In this day and age, things like installing an AV program should be simple to even the most ignorant end users.

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Years...

Anyone who knows anything about computers..knows that Norton and
McCafee stink......
Barry, what is a good alternate for Virus Protection software ? With the problems I read about Norton, surely there must be one or more good alternates....
And thanks to norton..they took out sygate...bought them out..which
is called free firewall competition elmination..not impressive.

Words spring to mind..not touch bargepole
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Vernon...
 
Barry, what is a good alternate for Virus Protection software ?
With the problems I read about Norton, surely there must be one or
more good alternates....
Well I think I have tried them all. My idea of a good AV is one which doesnt bog down the pc and does its job with min of fuss.

Have to say I like both Avast and AVG a lot...both offer free and paid for versions...having used them both for some time (on different machines! lol).......I rate them as more than good enough.

I did use NOD 32...which was good..and very fast at scanning..but I felt it wasnt worth buying..when the free ones are good enough. I have 3 years on NOD...
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Barry, what is a good alternate for Virus Protection software ?
With the problems I read about Norton, surely there must be one or
more good alternates....
Well I think I have tried them all. My idea of a good AV is one
which doesnt bog down the pc and does its job with min of fuss.

Have to say I like both Avast and AVG a lot...both offer free and
paid for versions...having used them both for some time (on
different machines! lol).......I rate them as more than good enough.

I did use NOD 32...which was good..and very fast at scanning..but I
felt it wasnt worth buying..when the free ones are good enough. I
have 3 years on NOD...
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Barry, I appreciate your feedback. I will check these out.
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Vernon...
 
--Norton is a sad story indeed...:-(

When your present subscription runs out, switch to McAfee, MSFT CareOne or even one of the FREE on-line anti-virus internet condoms.

Norton, installing a nightmare...

Gary
 
99% of the Windows users are still
stuck in the conceptual world of Win98 and have been brainwashed
they need after market security applications.

Stop downloading trojan invested pirated software, stop surfing
with admin rights, and keep your OS / Email apps patched. This
eliminates the need for these bloated and service hogging security
suites in the first place.
I may be one of these. I stopped using Norton about 3 years ago. I no longer surf under administrators rights. I use Firefox to surf and Eudora for e-mails...
HOWEVER, I haven't a clue what a patched OS/E-mail app is.
Thanks for the heads-up and I'll investigate this.
 
As for the difficulties in uninstalling some have spoken of, again
I've been lucky. I just installed from the Control Panel, was
patient enough to let it finish the job, and it's gone.
That's what I thought - until I saw many empty Semantec folders littering my PC. There are .dlls lying around, not to mention registry entries. Sometimes Live Update sticks around loading up at startup. Lots of Norton junk remains on the system behind the scene that slows the system down even though the program is gone from the desktop and program folder.
 
99% of the Windows users are still
stuck in the conceptual world of Win98 and have been brainwashed
they need after market security applications.

Stop downloading trojan invested pirated software, stop surfing
with admin rights, and keep your OS / Email apps patched. This
eliminates the need for these bloated and service hogging security
suites in the first place.
I may be one of these. I stopped using Norton about 3 years ago. I
no longer surf under administrators rights. I use Firefox to surf
and Eudora for e-mails...
HOWEVER, I haven't a clue what a patched OS/E-mail app is.
Thanks for the heads-up and I'll investigate this.
A patched O.S/program = the latest (security) updates have been installed.

JohnnyWB

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The business version of Norton which often comes preinstalled on
high-end laptops is not that bad. It still consumes system
resources but at least isn't consistently annoying.
My PC came with trial versions of Symantec Client Firewall and Anti-virus. My internet service (Rogers High Speed) includes Norton for free, so I gave it a try when the free Symantec expired. Symantec did not completely uninstall itself, so of course Norton conflicted with the remnants of Symantec and would not install. I really did not expect 2 Symantec products to conflict like that. I have heard such bad things about Norton that I am now reluctant to use it even if it is free.

This is the first time I have heard about setting up a non-admin user for web surfing.

Does anyone have experience with ZoneAlarm Security Suite? It's firewall gets great reviews and it's AV comes from Kaspersky, which gets better reviews than the free versions of AVG and Avast.
 
This may have been discussed here, but as a technical guy, I have to add my input.

Norton used to be great software. Now, it is bloated, slows your system down, ugly, and not much better than free products.

Remove Norton and anything related to it like LiveUpdate. Follow these tips:

- Make sure your XP has SP2 installed and keep the included firewall turned on.
- Keep all Windows patches current

- Don’t use IE6!!! IE6 was written before there was such a thing as spyware. Use FireFox 2 or IE7.
- Put a password on your wireless router

- Keep a good virus scanner on your PC and keep it updated. (should be automatic with most). Check out AVG Free version.

- When you install “free” software it can be loaded with ads and trackers without your knowledge. In most cases there are equivalents. For example, for AIM, use “AIM AdHAck”. Don’t use LimeWire (horribly loaded with junk), use “FrostWire” and so on.
 
This is swerious. SW this bad can damage folks' computers.

Is there a public site to post such issues?
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This may have been discussed here, but as a technical guy, I have
to add my input.

Norton used to be great software. Now, it is bloated, slows your
system down, ugly, and not much better than free products.
It was very good, when we were using DOS.
 
We used to have their so-called antivirus solution, corporate rollout. It was worse than the virus. It would slow down every machine by 30-40%, hog RAM and CPU and generally make life miserable. On many machines we couldn't even uninstall it. The uninstaller would crash, and you were left with many services, registry entries and files which were orphans.

If there was ever a badly written piece of this is it.
 
Not because it is good..it isnt..but Symantec have a great marketing machine......and spend the cash promoting it...plus the nice flashy boxes.

Even in the stores it is overpriced...and frankly the free AV jobbies run rings around it. Pure system hog...

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