sneak peek of new dx 55-200mm VR

probably f/3.5-4.5. Bummer for me! I eagerly awaited the Sigma
50-150 f/2.8 only to receive a copy that has a stuck apeture and is
SUPER soft at 150mm any closer than 20 ft.
I'm on my second copy of the 50-150 2.8 and it's soft at 150 only because it's front focusing. If you look real good, you'll find something tack sharp in focus. It's a shame Sigma couldn't get this working right. I'm debating if I want to keep it or not. It's better at 135mm but the difference in the zoom ring makes shootin 135 very difficult.
 
I have a feeling that when Sigma rushes out something new to fill a perceived market gap, they have filling the gap as first priority and other things being second. Filling up the numbers is the only thing they care about!

Remember the 18-50 F2.8 ? Horrible CA and now they have a replacement arleady ! So soon after their product launch !!!!

To those who curse Nikon for not churning out lenses quickly enough, (e.g. 18-200 VR), please see what happens if a manufacturer churns out things too quickly simply to fill up the numbers !
probably f/3.5-4.5. Bummer for me! I eagerly awaited the Sigma
50-150 f/2.8 only to receive a copy that has a stuck apeture and is
SUPER soft at 150mm any closer than 20 ft.
I'm on my second copy of the 50-150 2.8 and it's soft at 150 only
because it's front focusing. If you look real good, you'll find
something tack sharp in focus. It's a shame Sigma couldn't get
this working right. I'm debating if I want to keep it or not.
It's better at 135mm but the difference in the zoom ring makes
shootin 135 very difficult.
 
Add me to the list as well. Even better would be a 50-100 mm/2.0... (Olympus has a 35-135 mm/2.0)
 
I have purchased/used 3 Sigma lenses - 70-200, 10-20 and the 30. All 3 had issues with them - ranging from front/back focus, mechanical faults etc. For both the 70-200 and 30, the cost and hassle of going through different copies wasn't worth it; besides, to be honest, I felt embarrassed by the entire "go back to store, complain about problem, ask for another copy".

Just goes to show the posters that routinely pop us asking " Where is my Dxx made?" that country of manufacture doesn't equate to quality. After all, Sigma lenses are all made in Japan...

That said, Sigma is filling important niches that Nikon isn't. I went to my local store to look at (not buy) the 50-150 and was surprised how small it was! This is definitely a zoom I could get away with using in the street. Add VR, WS to that and I'd be a happy camper. Their 30 is another example of a lens Nikon should be making (IMO) but isn't...
Gah! The frustration!
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you may find it disturbing but Sigma lenses focus better on nikon bodies than canon!

I got the 10-20, 105 macro, and 50-150 and it's only the 150 end of the 50-150 when near min focus distance that causes me a problem. Right now I'm leaning towards keeping the lens. I'm not sure I want to pay 2x for the 70-200 and carry it around. :)
 
Amongst all the discussion of the benefits of 55-200VR lens, little was said about the DX format vs the FF capability of the new 70-300VR. I see these two lenses as serving two distinct markets. Nikon has not made a mistake.
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Thom was very close with the D80 but he did miss the D40 on
megapixels, FPS, AF module, and pop-up flash. But the idea was
right.
I knew there was a low-end camera in the works, I didn't know exactly how they'd get there.
Now if only Nikon would put
him on the payroll...
I don't believe they can afford me ; )
Personally I think that after the D40 and D80 announcements Nikon
will make big noise with the Pro bodies to go against Canon's 20th
anniversary at PMA.
Pro body (bodies) indeed seem(s) to be next in the rumbling I hear down the pipeline. But I also wouldn't rule out something between the D40 and D80--there's a pretty big gap there and Nikon is doing quite well at the low end of the DSLR market, and historically there have been small gaps between low-end Nikons.
Looks like a new 18-55mm VR with a 55-200 VR will make for s super
D40 with 2 lens kit for under $1K!
The thing that confuses me is that the 18-55mm was redesigned (new motor for speed) without adding VR. (Well, also that the 18-135mm was without VR.) Are we really going to get a 18-55mm III? That seems a little awkward. But Nikon's whole lens lineup is due for a massive rethink and refresh.

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I knew there was a low-end camera in the works, I didn't know
exactly how they'd get there.
Yeah, it seems odd to me that the D80 was an amalgamation of the D200 and the D50, but the cheaper D40 seems to be its own camera. Wouldn't it cost more to design and build the D40 than the D80?
Now if only Nikon would put
him on the payroll...
I don't believe they can afford me ; )
Maybe that money would be more wisely spent on a new marketing division ; ) and more lens production. They seem to already be making the products that people want and they always have. It seems more and more that reputation is less effective marketing than it was ten years ago. They've really put their foot down with consumer bodies and lenses, they just need to get the word out. Kate's just not doing the trick. Maybe they need to get her playing some badminton or something...
Pro body (bodies) indeed seem(s) to be next in the rumbling I hear
down the pipeline.
I'm glad to hear that. I'm hoping for D3H in spring and D3X (35FF) in fall. I guess they could still unite them.
But I also wouldn't rule out something between
the D40 and D80--there's a pretty big gap there and Nikon is doing
quite well at the low end of the DSLR market, and historically
there have been small gaps between low-end Nikons.
I agree. I think how quickly a "D60" comes out will be partially determined by how many D50's they have left to sell. After all the D50 doesn't do a horrible job filling the gap between D40 and D80.
Looks like a new 18-55mm VR with a 55-200 VR will make for s super
D40 with 2 lens kit for under $1K!
The thing that confuses me is that the 18-55mm was redesigned (new
motor for speed) without adding VR. (Well, also that the 18-135mm
was without VR.) Are we really going to get a 18-55mm III? That
seems a little awkward. But Nikon's whole lens lineup is due for a
massive rethink and refresh.
Do you think the 55-200DX will be discontinued when the 55-200VR comes out? I don't. I think there's room for an 18-55VR to be released with a D60. They seem to make it pretty clear in the News Release that the 18-55 II was made for the D40 and not for cameras above it (just because they mention the D40 several times).

I agree with the rethinking. There were gaps in the lineup before the D40, and with that out there's going to be high demand for AF-S updates across the board. Dan
 
I am not at all excited to see Nikon be warming up to release another consumer lens with slow glass and VR. I think the long term plan of releasing a bunch of consumer lenses with VR will backfire. A lot of people say these lenses are not for the photogs, however what you get is a bunch of consumers taking blurred tele shots of their kids playing sports at 5.6 and they have no idea why. I think many people end up with "starter" DSLRs like a D40 and D50 simply because they want to take better pics. I am also going to go out on a limb here and say that more often than not, they are taking pics of moving objects. To some people spending $500 on a DSLR body, when they buy a $500 lens, to them, that is high end glass.

VR is good and has its uses for sure, however it should not be the new selling point for a number of slow lenses. I like Nikon and when someone shows me a pic and says "I took this on my Nikon" I expect to see a good picture, if it is action or a still shot. The best way to get people taking better pics all the time is to teach them how to use the camera and get them using better glass. There is no way around this, this is the way it has always been and will continue to be. Even if people do not understand the technology they are buying, they will understand the results of better glass. Getting people lenses with fewer limitations is the key.

I think something like a 18-200VR is a good lens and filled a market gap. It is widely accepted and discussed that is is a walk around type lens to work decently enough in any situation. Now they have the 70-300VR, and the 55-200VR upcoming, along with the 24-120VR all shooting tele at 5.6 and covering duplicate zoom ranges. Was there really an in demand gap between 55 and 70 that we needed another new lens to cover?

Meanwhile, almost everyone I know with a Canon DSLR has the 70-200 L F4, and they use it regularly with excellent results. Also, I see the 50-150 2.8 Sigma and the Tokina 50-135 2.8 DX lenses gathering a lot of attention especially from Nikon users who are aspiring for soem good glass. With a Nikon lens, you go from a 5.6 DX lens straight to a large, heavy 80-200 AFD 2.8 lens. There needs to be something in the middle. Either make a F4 with a similar zoom range and good pricing, or create a DX only 2.8 tele zoom so people can buy a smaller, better lens. I want to see Nikon sell some new designs with better glass in the $400 - $600 range, instead of adding VR to slow glass.
 
I'm glad to hear that. I'm hoping for D3H in spring and D3X (35FF)
in fall. I guess they could still unite them.
I think any new D3H or X camera will remain DX. It's just my opinion and a I truly wish the F designation remain in Nikon's lineup. but I do not think Nikon will abandon the F to history. They are a company that is mindful of tradition. I predict that the new FF DSLR flagship will be called the F7D! You heard it here first folks. :-)

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