F707 + WCON-08B further tests with EXIF information

[GoldenHammer]

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b--http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[Andrew]

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

Can you tell me where you bought the lens and what you paid? Been folllowing your work and it looks like your research has led to another sale. I'll probably buy from B&H but they only list the lenses by manufacturers part numbers...could you post that.

Thanks, happy holidays

Andrew>

 

[Sun46533]

Both the TCON-14B and the WCON-08B can be easily found in Hong Kong. I bought mine from Union Well at US$177.

Can you tell me where you bought the lens and what you paid? Been
folllowing your work and it looks like your research has led to
another sale. I'll probably buy from B&H but they only list the
lenses by manufacturers part numbers...could you post that.

Thanks, happy holidays

Andrew>

 

[Jeremy Birn61459]

Thanks! Your posts are very useful.

• jeremy

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--Jeremy Birn http://www.3dRender.com/

 

[Pennypincher]

Outstanding! Now im really getting exited about this camera and that lens.Where did you get the notion to try an Olympus lens on it?Im not really 100% convinced,im probably pushing to ask you to shoot some shots of the tree(s) similar to the ones Jeremy Birn shot where the tree isnt the total picture...mostly sky or and another object with tree branches showing on sides or edges of the photo.I know this can make some difference in exposure,focus,etc.Im surprised to see you out in daylight.Thought you were a nightstalker.Dan (many thanx)PS Hong Kongs a beautiful City.(Hope Asama doesnt swing by)

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[GoldenHammer]

Hi,

It costed me US$200 in Hong Kong. It is Olympus WCON-08B 0.8x wide angle converter.

Merry Christmas and happy shooting.

Liman

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

Can you tell me where you bought the lens and what you paid? Been
folllowing your work and it looks like your research has led to
another sale. I'll probably buy from B&H but they only list the
lenses by manufacturers part numbers...could you post that.

Thanks, happy holidays

Andrew>

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[GoldenHammer]

May post some more shots later for your reference.

Liman

• jeremy

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--
Jeremy Birn
http://www.3dRender.com/

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[GoldenHammer]

I think it is really depending on personal need as Jeremy Birn mentioned. The Olympus only have a factor of 0.8x that is not enough for some people.

The Sony 07 is great len but I hope to get more usability balance, and that is my preference in the costs of a 0.1x factor. I also got chance to have a quick try on the Sony wide 0758, it seems a good len that supports also full zoom range, but I could not get a full details tests.

Yes. Hong Kong is a nice city, not only night light, my next topics for taking picture would be some country side scenes and pictures of some nice major infrasturctures in Hong Kong.

By the way, I am not only a nightstalker ... ,take a vacation to Hong Kong, and prepare dozen of memory stick for lot of fun!

Merry Christmas.

(^ ^)

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[Roy Ehman]

B&H have the Olympus Wide Angle lens at $159.95
Enter wcon-08b in the search box

Liman, are we to understand that you have the tele adapter on at the same time as the wide angle?. Does the Olympus WA fit directly onto the 707 and if not then what step up/down adapter will be required. Need your answer as I just received the Canon w/a yesterday and I don,t like the barrel distortion and plan on sending it back on Monday. The Olympus seems totally free barrel distortion the onlhy price being that it is .8 instead of .7 -- well worth it since hyouj woudl have to crop some of the Ccanon pictures after debarrelizing

=Roy=

The Sony 07 is great len but I hope to get more usability balance,
and that is my preference in the costs of a 0.1x factor. I also got
chance to have a quick try on the Sony wide 0758, it seems a good
len that supports also full zoom range, but I could not get a full
details tests.

Yes. Hong Kong is a nice city, not only night light, my next topics
for taking picture would be some country side scenes and pictures
of some nice major infrasturctures in Hong Kong.

By the way, I am not only a nightstalker ... ,take a vacation to
Hong Kong, and prepare dozen of memory stick for lot of fun!

Merry Christmas.

(^ ^)

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--=Roy=

 

[GoldenHammer]

Yes. Now I got both. I got the TCON about 2 weeks ago and I just have WCON for the past two days. I love them because now they form a perfect pairs of extensions for my beloved F707.

They both run at 62mm thread, a 58mm to 62mm step-up ring is required. You better get a high quality ring as these lens are real heavy and big.

For your reference.

Liman

Liman, are we to understand that you have the tele adapter on at
the same time as the wide angle?. Does the Olympus WA fit directly
onto the 707 and if not then what step up/down adapter will be
required. Need your answer as I just received the Canon w/a
yesterday and I don,t like the barrel distortion and plan on
sending it back on Monday. The Olympus seems totally free barrel
distortion the onlhy price being that it is .8 instead of .7 --
well worth it since hyouj woudl have to crop some of the Ccanon
pictures after debarrelizing

=Roy=

The Sony 07 is great len but I hope to get more usability balance,
and that is my preference in the costs of a 0.1x factor. I also got
chance to have a quick try on the Sony wide 0758, it seems a good
len that supports also full zoom range, but I could not get a full
details tests.

Yes. Hong Kong is a nice city, not only night light, my next topics
for taking picture would be some country side scenes and pictures
of some nice major infrasturctures in Hong Kong.

By the way, I am not only a nightstalker ... ,take a vacation to
Hong Kong, and prepare dozen of memory stick for lot of fun!

Merry Christmas.

(^ ^)

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--
=Roy=

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[GoldenHammer]

I just tried this configuration to see what would be the result. Check out the samples at the last two rows.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b

It turned out not bad, but I think they are -0.3EV underexposed... the Polarizer and UV give good contrast but do eat lights about 0.6EV (I estimated) and a bit vignetting at full wide.

Comments?
Liman

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[Pennypincher]

More great shots,your day nature shots are inspiring.Ive returned my Sony lense so i can buy the Olympus lens.Id still like to see you shoot some tree branch edges with a wide angle lens but id also like to know if youve shot some people facial type shots.Not portraits,...faces a little further from the camera than that.Im wondering what your opinion on the comparison between the 707 and the Nikon 5000 shots is. CP-5000 http://www.sudsfamily.com/01/ 707 http://www.sudsfamily.com/02/ It concerns me because ill be wanting to photo people semi-close-up .(But outdoors in nature settings mostly)Most people consider the 5000 to be better,claiming the skin tones dont have enough color and the reds are overblown etc. Dan

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b

It turned out not bad, but I think they are -0.3EV underexposed...
the Polarizer and UV give good contrast but do eat lights about
0.6EV (I estimated) and a bit vignetting at full wide.

Comments?
Liman

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[GoldenHammer]

My eyes told me that the CP-5000 performed better in this particular environment (indoors, flashed). You would need more samples of outdoors shots if that is your major concerns.

For me, however, this is not the critical consideration. I will still pick F707 if I have to choose again .

May post some more samples of the wide angle later in my next gallery.

Liman

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b

It turned out not bad, but I think they are -0.3EV underexposed...
the Polarizer and UV give good contrast but do eat lights about
0.6EV (I estimated) and a bit vignetting at full wide.

Comments?
Liman

Check out those shots of trees as you guys requested. They are all
taken all full wide at different aperture. For me, F2.0 is poor but
still acceptable, F8.0 is nice.

http://www.pbase.com/liman/f707w08b
--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[Pennypincher]

Why would you pick the 707 if you had to admit the 5000 delivered better pictures?Excuse me if i am becoming a pest,i respect your opinion,because i admire your photography.Dan

For me, however, this is not the critical consideration. I will
still pick F707 if I have to choose again .

May post some more samples of the wide angle later in my next gallery.

Liman

I just tried this configuration to see what would be the result.
Check out the samples at the last two rows

--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707
Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[GoldenHammer]

Hi Danton,

Thank you for the using "photography" for me, it is still a long road for me to go for that... .

Not really. We all try to find what is the best to suit our own need. This is always reasonable.

For this case. I only admit the 5000 delivered better pictures at this "particular" test. I could not make judgement with this single test however. I need more comprehensive information, this is more relevant to the technical side and more real life pictures. But this rather not the critical factor for me, as I would expect they do perform quite close to each other in this aspect.

However, the real critical factor for me is the design of the F707, it keeps me the feel and mood to push myself for taking good pictures. From my points of view, this is the most important. The 5000 just could not pass my initial impression, it could not turn me on, and I would not take it with me for "photography".

Feel and got motivated is always my driving force to get nice pictures.

Merry Christmas,
Liman

For me, however, this is not the critical consideration. I will
still pick F707 if I have to choose again .

May post some more samples of the wide angle later in my next gallery.

Liman

I just tried this configuration to see what would be the result.
Check out the samples at the last two rows

--
http://www.pbase.com/liman/root
Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707
Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B

 

[Dan Sroka]

However, the real critical factor for me is the design of the F707,
it keeps me the feel and mood to push myself for taking good
pictures. From my points of view, this is the most important. The
5000 just could not pass my initial impression, it could not turn
me on, and I would not take it with me for "photography".

Great point here, by the way. The best equipment is that which "feels" the best to you, and makes you feel like taking pictures. As one wise store owner told me, when I asked which was the worst camera: "the one that stays in your drawer at home".

Dan

P.S. Enjoying your detailed wide-angle tests, as I am looking for one myself. Are any of your pictures comparing the same scene taking with the lens on, and with it off?
-- http://www.sroka.net/artdiary

 

[Pennypincher]

Dan,all the wide angle shots that are being compared here were taken by Jeremy Birn or Liman and some of the ones im giving you here http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=1942566 were taken with a Nikon cp-5000 were taken by Maria.Im just linking whats available in a single post so attention will be brought to the subject and people in the know will address the issue.(Sure wish Liman would shoot more wide angles in daylight)Dan

However, the real critical factor for me is the design of the F707,
it keeps me the feel and mood to push myself for taking good
pictures. From my points of view, this is the most important. The
5000 just could not pass my initial impression, it could not turn
me on, and I would not take it with me for "photography".

Great point here, by the way. The best equipment is that which
"feels" the best to you, and makes you feel like taking pictures.
As one wise store owner told me, when I asked which was the worst
camera: "the one that stays in your drawer at home".

Dan

P.S. Enjoying your detailed wide-angle tests, as I am looking for
one myself. Are any of your pictures comparing the same scene
taking with the lens on, and with it off?

--
http://www.sroka.net/artdiary

 

[GoldenHammer]

Will post samples for sharing. I could not find difference in quality at the full wide shots. It is a great len.

Liman

However, the real critical factor for me is the design of the F707,
it keeps me the feel and mood to push myself for taking good
pictures. From my points of view, this is the most important. The
5000 just could not pass my initial impression, it could not turn
me on, and I would not take it with me for "photography".

Great point here, by the way. The best equipment is that which
"feels" the best to you, and makes you feel like taking pictures.
As one wise store owner told me, when I asked which was the worst
camera: "the one that stays in your drawer at home".

Dan

P.S. Enjoying your detailed wide-angle tests, as I am looking for
one myself. Are any of your pictures comparing the same scene
taking with the lens on, and with it off?

--
http://www.sroka.net/artdiary

-- http://www.pbase.com/liman/root Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-F707 + Olympus TCON-14B/ WCON-08B