Sony DSLR

[ASR45]

HI all Sony folk, there i was all ready and waiting for the Panasonic DSLR and then Sony comes up with a DSLR, it really got my juices going it looks to be a good camera so far what we know. I have a hard decision to make between the two cameras they both look to be very good prudence perhapes to be to wait for the tests. At this stage i really dont know what one i might go for. Is there any one else in my shoes that are faced with this dilemma , and if so what would you go for kind regards Alan.

 

[kawak]

What is so good with the Panasonic DSLR? From what I understand it is a overpriced E-330, a camera people think is overpriced. Then again...I reallly don't know that much about the Pana. What do you like about it? Is the price going to be about D200 level?

 

[ASR45]

As soon as i set eyes on it i liked the shape rect, it well might be very expensive time will tell. I disagree regarding E330 it has live view but no swivel head i just get a good feel for it time will tell, then when i herd of the Sony dslr i thought that could be something great Sony very well known i thought. Until i see the Sony write up when it gets launched i will make my mind up at this moment i hope it will be a strong durable, good colour rendition like Olympus i will be happy. Megapix 10 they say well dont mean to much to me i have a E-1 it has only 5mega pix but boy does it take good photos. Anyway we will have to be patient and see but one thing is for sure it is a very interesting time for digital photography all the best Alan.

 

[Taffy]

Hey Alan, have you had a peek at the Samsung 10mp offering as well. Samsung have teamed up with Pentax, so plenty of lenses there too.

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Taffy.
I too, hope to be able to assist others.

 

[ASR45]

If the new sony can match my E-1 i will be more than happy. E-1 bald eagle shot.

 

[ASR45]

I knew samsung had a DSLR but thought it was 6 mega pix am i wrong regards Alan.

 

[Gil Knutson]

HI all Sony folk, there i was all ready and waiting for the
Panasonic DSLR and then Sony comes up with a DSLR, it really got my
juices going it looks to be a good camera so far what we know.

And to confuse the issue, and make it harder for you... and others...
Pentax has a new vibration cancelling camera... list price is a reported
$600... it should be selling well below $500 before too long.

I
have a hard decision to make between the two cameras they both look
to be very good prudence perhapes to be to wait for the tests.

As I said, three good cameras...

A this stage i really dont know what one i might go for.

Shake everybody up... get the Pentax... ))

Is there any
one else in my shoes that are faced with this dilemma , and if so
what would you go for kind regards Alan.

I presently have Minolta lenses... so it makes sense for me to go
the Minolta route... but Pentax makes wonderful glass. I always
could usually pick out a Pentax shot picture.

Especially their special production lenses!!!

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Gil
Sardis, BC
Canada

 

[ASR45]

regards Alan, look into pentax.

 

[ASR45]

Reading to fast silly me.

 

[Taffy]

Hi Alan, no you're not wrong they have two 6mp cammies, but also a 10mp as well. More info at the link below.

http://www . letsgodigital .org/en/news/articles/story_8084.html

Just copy and paste the link, but remeber to remove the spaces before, and after the word letsgodigital.
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Taffy.
I too, hope to be able to assist others.

 

[Taffy]

That K100, I hope that's the one that you were referring to. Looks to be a really great little cammie. At excellent prices too, (even for the U.K.). I can't wait to see the reviewa of one.
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Taffy.
I too, hope to be able to assist others.

 

[AMomcil]

Hi Gil,

And to confuse the issue, and make it harder for you... and others...
Pentax has a new vibration cancelling camera... list price is a
reported
$600... it should be selling well below $500 before too long.

I presently have Minolta lenses... so it makes sense for me to go
the Minolta route... but Pentax makes wonderful glass. I always
could usually pick out a Pentax shot picture.

At this time, when many people take their own purchase so emotionally and put themself in "my brand" fanclub, it is very refreshing to see some good, healthy reasoning.

I had Canon DSLR system for 2 years, then I sold everything and switched to Olympus E-1, and recently again for Minolta.

If I would start from a scratch, I'd look only at Sony, Pentax/Samsung & Olympus/Panasonic.

Pentax K100D has one notable advantage - the best support for old MF lenses both their own and for diff. mounts with adapters (like M42). Pentax gives you focus assistance in all cases, which is absolutely crucial with this tiny little viewfinders APS sized DSLRs have. You can assemble mighty collection of beautiful glass for peanuts.. It also uses AA batteries (I don't like it, many do) and SD cards, which I'd prefer, because most of compacts also use them.

Upcoming Sony will have more pixels and anti-dust, etc. Maybe be a bit faster overall. But probably will be more expensive too.

Anyway, AS/VR are great features, and they give huge advantage to Sony/Pentax cameras. You should maybe choose between them by subjective feeling you have when you hold them in your hands.

Panasonic will be much more expensive, esp. with Leica OIS lens. But it will offer live-view, dust cleaner and an amazing glass. 4/3 is also the most modern system and I think it will have an excellent future. I simply had NO problems with it - no dust, no errors, no bad external flash exposures, no focusing problems (like I had with 7D now and 10D earlier). I went for Minolta because of AS and cheaper UWA lenses (Sigma, Tamron).

Nikon & Canon look very boring in this class (in the segment above there are great D200, 5D, etc.) and for sure are not the best bang-for-the buck. But they still represent the safest purchase. There is simply no long-termed risk involved.

Great times to be a DSLR buyer .

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[barri]

ASR45,

I would clearly choose the Sony. I expect the technology to be more advanced, and it's going to be better value for money, considering that you can buy from 16 million used minolta lenses of which many have brilliant quality. Also one expects Sony to launch more, even better dSLR bodies in the future. Hence you'll also have better upgrading possibilities later.

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[Steve Gendler]

Any one of the manufacturers mentioned has the potentional to put out an unacceptably noisy camera. The Sony Alpha seems to make the most sense to me since they have the most experience at in-body anti-shake. Also, since the CCD cleaning feature sounds very compelling. Minolta has nearly always marketed prime glass. What I'm nervous about on the Alpha and any of the as-yet-unreviewed AS cameras is did they screw up by making the camera noisy. I hope Phil reviews the Alpha and the K100 quickly so we can decide with data.

 

[ASR45]

ASR.

 

[ASR45]

To all, good comments and wise words i think the Sony will be a very good camera i have a Sony tv and dont have any problems with it, Not a good comparison but just to justify good engineering and components it looks like Sony for me. I have always been a Minolta man having a 300SI back in the early days then the 500SI then 800 Dynax all good film shooters regards Alan.

 

[Mark K]

I have high respect for Leica lenses, being the sharpest lenses for all time. Panasonic has been producing the finest digital cameras all the time. However, the sensors being used are also the noisest ones ever made in history.

If Panasonic want to play the game, they have to think more about the sensor problems

One advantage of DSLR, is the clear images using high ISO. For this reason, I won't consider Panasonic

HI all Sony folk, there i was all ready and waiting for the
Panasonic DSLR and then Sony comes up with a DSLR, it really got my
juices going it looks to be a good camera so far what we know. I
have a hard decision to make between the two cameras they both look
to be very good prudence perhapes to be to wait for the tests. At
this stage i really dont know what one i might go for. Is there any
one else in my shoes that are faced with this dilemma , and if so
what would you go for kind regards Alan.

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Mark K

 

[ASR45]

cheers for that mark, as i put in my previous thread it looks to be Sony for me Panasonic are noisy but who knows what the DMC-L1 will be like time will tell regards Alan.

 

[Gil Knutson]

I would clearly choose the Sony. I expect the technology to be more
advanced, and it's going to be better value for money, considering
that you can buy from 16 million used minolta lenses of which many
have brilliant quality.

You have obviously never owned a Pentax.

They too have some great lenses... some oddball focal lengths,
which are presently available, which are sometimes said to be the
sharpest lenses, period. These odd fellows are metal and made
to jewelry specifications. Often likened to jewelry... that can take
killer pic.

Also, even though not auto-focus, some of the M series lenses
were absolutely amazing... you have focus assist and Pentax's
version of AS... plus a zillion screw mount lenses, many of which
were the tops in their time... I do not know how they hold up
against todays lenses, but they are very, very inexpensive.

Opens the door to much experimentation.

Although not AF, the A* 85mm is an absolutely killer lens.
I am not sure if their focus assist still works, but the model 5
that they had a few years ago (forget the name) did an
excellent job of that. As good as AF really... and more selective
as you look through the viewfinder.

It should give Sony some good competition.

Also one expects Sony to launch more, even
better dSLR bodies in the future.

So far only conjecture... although a logical one...

Actually, I think it will be suicide if they do not go that route,
but I do not know what their research has told them. Maybe
they know things we don't.

Hence you'll also have better
upgrading possibilities later.

As I said, only wishful thinking. Until Sony actually DOES say
they will, we can assume nothing, really. I may wish that
they do this, but in truth, that is all it is. AND, them saying
they does NOT mean it will happen. They may find that only
5% of the market wants Sony dSLR's. Pentax, Samsung and
Pany may distract enough purchasers to make it a horserace
between those 4....

...although, I wish otherwise!

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Gil
Sardis, BC
Canada