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So far I really like the camera!

It's fast, small, and fun to use...and did I mention it was fun to use...

I pretty much take it everywhere with me. It is not a replacement for my dslr, but for a small digicam it is great. The high iso performance still amazes me...One negative is it gives a fair amount of purple fringing but I can live with it...

I feel that it is a camera that you have to use a lot to understand all its quirks...but with practice it can give some great results.

I would love to see this cam with image stabilization but you can't have everything I guess...

I can honestly say that I do not regret buying it for a second.

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Fuji F11 should have included a sharpness, contrast and saturation setting.The F10 images are indeed soft and some pics looked washed out. All other cameras in the world has this feature, so what is so difficult to do this, Fuji? Or is Fuji going to include it one at a time, saving it for the next F12 upgrade, eh? I hate it when manufacturers do that.

PP on 500 images is no joke, I tell ya. My eyes popped out and my fingers went numb after post processing 500 images. And I have probably 3000 images more to go !! Good lord!

And when is Fuji going to drop that stup*d USB adapter?
 
Thanks wiggims for posting the samples. Some pics e.g. thirsty cat look good but some are look dull and too soft. I agree that is better than in its class in low light environment with its noise control in ISO 400 & above. But I expect to get sharper pics in good daylight. Would you consider to post some samples of landscape under daylight?

I am expecting a good small DC and F11 is my target.
 
I don't see any difference between the Arches original and the purple fringe removed one. Maybe I don't know where to look to see these purple fringes...
 
sinbad21 said:
I don't see any difference between the Arches original and the
purple fringe removed one. Maybe I don't know where to look to see
these purple fringes...
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You need to view the images full-size to see the fringing. It isn't necessary to wait for the whole image to load, just look at the edges of the beams at top-left.

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sinbad21 said:
Chris Luck said:
You need to view the images full-size to see the fringing. It
isn't necessary to wait for the whole image to load, just look at
the edges of the beams at top-left.
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Oh yes ! At full size the purple fringing jumps out. This is annoying.
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But who would look at an album or printed photos at sizes like 40x30 inches?

Purple fringing (actually chromatic abberation) is the result of such small optics and even cheap super zoom optics (like that of the FZ30 or S9500) have it. The small sensors are the main reason. And some digicam makers like Panasonic or Sony reduce CA internally.
 
Clara Lisson said:
I would guess that CA and purple fringe does not affect Black &
White images. Am I right?
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Not that much, but it still will have some effect. What we see as blue/purple will be interpreted as some brightness and handled like that. The only thing helping here would be that these colors are already rather dark.

Only trying could show the real effect. But taking a b/w photo will make it impossible for any de-purplefringing software to do their job.

CA can also be reduced by using a higher lens aperture (at least the F11 has a direct option for that) or trying to capture the scenery in a way, that these high contrasts causing CA are moved to the center where CA is negligible.

If I wouldn't want to use de-PF-software but still have an image quality close to a DSLR with expensive CA-free lenses, then I'd take multiple shots of such a scenery (if static) and combine it like a panorama, using only the center areas of the single photos.

But if I'd have to do that more often, I'd consider avoiding these small optical systems. :)
 
I shot a whole day of photos, trying to find PF, and found none. The next sunny day I went out and did some test shots and I finally found some mild PF under the following conditions:
1. Noon time.
2. Sunny day.

3. Shoot trees or building edges with the sun right behind them (grossly over exposed highlights).
4. Widest possible zoom setting.
5. Look in the corners of the photo.

Only under these extreme conditions do I have PF. Does anyone know of a reliable OBJECTIVE test to compare cameras' PF? Do F11 models vary unit to unit?
 
Hey guys. I am a DSLR owner, but I want to invest in either the F10 or f11.

Which do you reccomend and how much should I expect to pay for either one of them?

I realize that the F11 is going to be more expensive and more upgraded (i.e. megapixels), but I am mainly looking for a light, low noise, camera for indoor shooting with friends and family. Is the F11 that much better?

thanks!
 
I took this one through a window, but at least it has a lot of detail in it...I also had it on the F-chrome setting which gives more color saturation out of the camera...It has been tough to get some shots in good light lately...I've also bee running around for work...



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Is there anything else major though?

If the zoom/megapixels/noise are the same what more would I really need to spend an extra $XXX for?

How much are these cameras for and where should I look to buy them?

thanks again
ravin
 
AFAIK, major changes of F11 are the A&S priority & full Manual mode and higher resolution LCD. if these are not major issues to you, you can stick to F10
 
G'day Wiggims. I got a Fuji F10 in August to complement by KM 7D and have found it to be fun and useful as well. The F11 was then announced soon after and I intend to upgrade when they become available here in Australia, hopefully before XMas. As far as image stabilisation goes, I'm sure you'd agree that the high sensitivity performance of the F11 allows some reduction in camera shake anyway.
wiggims said:
So far I really like the camera!

It's fast, small, and fun to use...and did I mention it was fun to
use...

I pretty much take it everywhere with me. It is not a replacement
for my dslr, but for a small digicam it is great. The high iso
performance still amazes me...One negative is it gives a fair
amount of purple fringing but I can live with it...

I feel that it is a camera that you have to use a lot to understand
all its quirks...but with practice it can give some great results.

I would love to see this cam with image stabilization but you can't
have everything I guess...

I can honestly say that I do not regret buying it for a second.

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http://www.pbase.com/wiggims/galleries
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Cheers from JDU from Adelaide, South Australia

Formerly Minolta A1, then KM Dynax 7D; more recently Canon 20D and Fuji F10
My galleries: http://www.pbase.com/john_down_under
DPR Macro Challenges: http://www.pbase.com/dprchallenges/macro_main
Canon DSLR Challenges: http://www.pbase.com/cslr_challenge/root
KM galleries: http://www.pbase.com/mtf_foto_studies
KM 7D website: http://www.dyxum.com
 
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