--If the next generation camera that replaces the 20D does not have a
1.3 crop sensor and greater dynamic range (at least 2 stops), then
I say thank you to Canon!
Why?
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EOSMan
http://www.pbase.com/eosman
Me too, Juli! Its a shame that lenses don't plummet the same way cameras do!the scarcity of D60s. I finally got one in October, and what does
Canon do but bring out the 10D at a much lower price with new
features the following February. That was really source of my
consternation having spent $2500 for the D60 only to see the 10D
come out about $1500.
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Juli
http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries
Canon 2oD, Canon Gee3, and Canon S7o.
I keep trying to find an artist's eye in the B & H catalog
--the scarcity of D60s. I finally got one in October, and what does
Canon do but bring out the 10D at a much lower price with new
features the following February. That was really source of my
consternation having spent $2500 for the D60 only to see the 10D
come out about $1500.
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Juli
http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries
Canon 2oD, Canon Gee3, and Canon S7o.
I keep trying to find an artist's eye in the B & H catalog
Thank you because:
The 10D> 20D> 30D> 40D, etc., line is probably going to remain 1.6x indefinitely. It's not going to suddenly go 1.3x, leaving EF-S lenses to the Rebel line of DSLR cameras. That's not going to happen.
--Thank you because:
at the new specs?
- They'll have squashed all the "I told you so" people that GUESSED
their 20D for at least few months longer before feeling the pangs
- They'll have let us folks who upgraded to (or first buys) enjoy
of "I wish I waited for the next thing" ?
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- Us folks who laid down the moolah for EF-S lenses won't feel gypt?
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--Robert D. Mcgee1 in the post above got it right.
The only real improvements that Canon can make to warrant an
upgrade for 20D (maybe even the 10D) owners is to improvement the
sensor by going larger and increasing it's dynamic range by a
noticeable difference.
Whoever goes after this market for sub $2,000 camera with 1.3 crop
sensors will win the next war.
It’s no longer a megapixel war and consumers need to wise up about
this. It’s about improving the quality of the images where we are
at. A 12 MP camera is only going to make it more difficult to get
good low noise images and Canon will have to come up with some way
to reduce the noise in the camera like they are doing with software
noise reduction. I would rather have a 1.3 size sensor with 8MP and
improved dynamic range and lower noise at a higher ISO than to have
12MP with the same old story.
A 12 MP camera for most of us just means larger files to deal with
and the images quality differences (if any) will not be noticeable
for the majority of us.
STOP buying larger MP cameras and demand larger sensors and
improved dynamic range, IMO.
My .02 cents.
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EOSMan
http://www.pbase.com/eosman
The 20D replacement will not have a larger sensor. That doesn't mean there won't be a new camera with a larger sensor.
True.
This is not true. A 1.3x 12mp sensor will have the same size pixels as the 20D (roughly).
Canon does not do software noise reduction in the 20D.
I'd rather have the 12MP so I have the same pixel density as the 20D for cropping shots with long lenses. More noise per pixel doesn't necessarily mean more noise per image. Making bigger pixels is similar to making smaller pixels and doing a size reduction on the image. This reduces noise by about the same amount. What I want is good noise performance on a per-area basis.
If file size is important to you, you can always do in-camera size reduction. This will result in a sharper shot than if the sensor had fewer pixels because it removes much of the effect of the AA filter and the Bayer mask from the sharpness equasion. So you have a sharper shot with the same noise at the same size.
Larger sensors definitely helps everything. Better noise performance on a per-area basis helps as well. Better dynamic range is always welcome. Smaller pixel count is not a help to anything except the size of RAW files assuming the smaller pixels don't lose performance due to more per-pixel area being taken up by the amplifiers. This is where deep wells and microlenses come in.
Canon does not do in-camera noise reduction in the 20D other than the standard dark-frame subtraction (long exposure noise reduction) when that feature is on.
