Photo Slideshow to DVD

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Hello All,

I just have a question that relates to slideshows. I would like to put a slideshow together (in MS Powerpoint probably) but I would like to burn this to a DVD and then watch the slideshow on a normal DVD player on the TV. Can this be done? What options do I have?

Thanks for any help or advice, Tim.
 
Yes, well after I posted that message I wondered if there was stand alone software specifically for making DVD slideshows and similar. Thanks for the link I'll check it out.
 
There are many programs out there. I've tried quite a few and have had the best success with ProShow Gold. It has many options and with a bit of work you can create really nice slide shows with tons of different fades etc. It really has an impressive arsenal of tools. But the best part...it just works! lol
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I've used ProShow Gold for several years and it's worth every penny. With just a few hours of learning you can put together a spiffy slide show with music, slide transitions and pan & zoom effects.
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I have the trial version now, it is so easy to use and produces good results. I haven't found the pan and zoom effects though so I'll have to try that next.
 
Why not just make a normal CD with the jpeg-files? No extra pricey programs needed. Most DVD-players will automatically play them as slide shows on your tv. I do this and it is great. Just number the files in the order you want and the DVD-player does the rest. Costs only 1 US dollar for the blank CD-R (cheaper than a DVD - and you probably will get lost on a dvd with all that space for photos) - nothing more.
 
There are a lot of ways to do what you are trying to accomplish, I've made one or two of these with various programs, but with my limited experience there are a couple of disadvantages to doing this-

First and foremost is the quality of the images. The DVD format is limited to 480 lines of horizontal resolution, so all of those really sharp images you can see on your computer screen will have to have the resolution reduced for DVD compatibility.

Second is a related issue if you just want to burn the pictures to a CD (if you have a DVD player that supports JPEG viewing directly). I have done this and have a nice progressive scan DVD player that is about a year old. And it will display Jpg's fine, however the built in software does a terrible job at resizing images on the fly so anything taller than the above mentioned 480 lines comes up with very poor image quality. I did find a batch resizing program that will works pretty good to rectify this issue and have found that the the extra step of copying, resizising, then burning photo's to a CD is well worth it on this one, although Aside from viewing on a DVD player the image cd is not of enough quality for anthing else. Milan
 
Have used Magix Movie Edit Pro. If you want a slideshow that will mix pictures, text and music, all with their own fade ins and outs edited to 100th of a second, and then burn to a CD for playing on a DVD, this is an inexpensive and very good programme.

However, it took me a little while to learn, and the time involved when using all its facilities can be considerable, but you have a professional presentation.

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There are a lot of ways to do what you are trying to accomplish,
I've made one or two of these with various programs, but with my
limited experience there are a couple of disadvantages to doing
this-

First and foremost is the quality of the images. The DVD format is
limited to 480 lines of horizontal resolution, so all of those
really sharp images you can see on your computer screen will have
to have the resolution reduced for DVD compatibility.
Are you saying that if I archive my photos on a DVD that they are reduced in quality? I'm not talking about DVD slide shows for TV viewing, I'm familiar with the limitations there. But for archiving purposes, the file is the same on DVD or CD from what I understand. I can fit more photos on a DVD than a CD for archive purposes. Can you clarify?
Second is a related issue if you just want to burn the pictures to
a CD (if you have a DVD player that supports JPEG viewing
directly). I have done this and have a nice progressive scan DVD
player that is about a year old. And it will display Jpg's fine,
however the built in software does a terrible job at resizing
images on the fly so anything taller than the above mentioned 480
lines comes up with very poor image quality. I did find a batch
resizing program that will works pretty good to rectify this issue
and have found that the the extra step of copying, resizising, then
burning photo's to a CD is well worth it on this one, although
Aside from viewing on a DVD player the image cd is not of enough
quality for anthing else. Milan
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I have a 200 mb external hard drive for archiving too Theresa. They are so cheap these days you can't beat the insurance. But I also like to archive my photos to cd, but lately I've been using DVD's since I have a DVD burner on my computer now and I can store so much more on 1 DVD than 1 cd. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. :-)
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You're right... I am talking about doing slide shows on a DVD player for Presentation purposes only... As far as for image archiving any format will keep the same quality level that you saved the file in.

I would like to see some reports on how long home burnt DVD's are supposed to last from a reliability standpoint though. As all storage mediums can become corrupted over time. Personally I love the Idea of backing up my images to DVD's but I am a little leary of it yet without keeping things on a separate hard drive as well and the same for CD's but to a much lesser degree as the data density is much lower so slight degradation in the media would have a much less severe effect on the data. A little food for thought based on the different storage technologies, this pertains to CD's but I'm pretty sure that the technology is the same for DVD's, only the density is increased:

The Differences:

Pre Recorded (ie Store bought with Data on them):

The pre-recorded CD's that we buy are quite different in construction from the ones that we burn ourselves. In the case of these CD's the plastic on the CD is encoded with pits and flats that are then coted with aluminum that a laser can be bounced off of and read (ie pit= No reflection, Flat= Reflection- the equivalent of binary "1" and "0" which is how all computer data is stored). This makes for a very durable CD as the data is written into the Polycarbonate of the disk itself, which is hard to damage and very slow to degrade.

CDR:

With CDR's there is a major difference in how your data is stored from the above mentioned Pre-Recorded CDs. Have you ever wondered why we use the term "Burn" to make a CD? Well here's the explanation... CDR's have a completely flat data track which has a layer of organic pigment on top of it. This pigment is special in that it is clear until heated and then darkens. On top of this layer is a layer of aluminum to give the reflective background for your CD's laser to bounce off of. When we "Burn" a CD your CDR drive's laser intensity is raised high enough so that when it fires is burns a dark spot in the pigment.. this is how the data is written Dark spot=lower reflection through the burnt pigment (incidentally with about a 20% decrease in the difference between the two states compared with a manfuctured data CD). Does this impact data pernanence? YES Definitely! First the pigment layer does age and will discolor over time... I have heard life expectancies of 5-10 years, but have never seen good hard data on this, and for good reason- CDR's life expectancy can vary widely based on what kind of heat the CDR is exposed to, as well as Humidity etc. (I even read in a tech forum one time about people in some tropical areas having problems with microbiological degradation.. ie microbes eating the organic dye layers of CDR's and causing data loss in extreme storage conditions). So I would take it that CDR's have decent but not permanent longevity provided they are stored properly in a cool / dry place.

CDRW:

CDRW is yet another completely different technology from CDR. In this case there is no organic dye, but instead the metal reflective layer is special and melts at a lower temperature. In this case your CDRW drive's laser has two power levels it uses to write and re-write. The higher level heats the metal on the CDRW disk to a fully liquid state so that when it cools it has a mirror surface, and the lower power setting heats the metal layer of the CDRW disk to a semi liquid state so that when it cools it becomes rough / foggy (for those familiar with soldering the difference is equivalent to a good vs a "Cold" solder joint). This is why you can re-write, you can go back over your data with the higher laser setting and re-mirror the surface to erase the data. Additionally with CDRW's there is even less of a difference in reflectivity between the rough and smooth areas on the CDRW disk than with either of the other two (with about a 40-60% decrease in the difference between the two states, which is why some older CD drives will not read a CDRW as they are not sensitive enough to detect the difference). I believe that this format may be more durable than a regular CDR since there is no organic layer to age, but I am not sure which of the two is more temperature sensitive from a degradation perspective.

DVDR / DVDRW's:

As I mentioned before, I don't believe that there is any difference in the way that DVDR/DVDRW's are burned, I believe the only real difference is more precise control of the laser and better electronics, as well as a finer grade of metal or pigment used in the disks manufacture (ie smaller grain size for higher data density). So the same principals should apply with slightly higher risk due to the fact that the more dense the data is, the less degradation to the physical media it takes to cause data loss / corruption.

Sorry to be so long winded, but I really wanted to share this info, as there really isn't a perfect solution to long term archiving aside from keeping your data in multiple formats And preferably in physically separate locations. And I know for me it would be a big personal tragedy if all of the images and slices of time that I have captured of my Children's childhood were lost. Especially since that's the main reason most of us take pictures in the first place... to preserve a moment in time.... So burn some DVD's or CD's, but if you want to do the long term guarantee thing I would either rent server space as well, or buy a good external hard drive (until replaced by somethig better) and keep multiple copies of all the special stuff. Thanks, Milan
 
Very interesting read Milan. Thank you for sharing it. I have been grateful that I've had my photos on a storage site because I was unable to find one picture that I know I had archived to cd somewhere...but...

I now have an external hard drive, and back up to cd or/and dvd. Along with on-line storage I hope I have my bases covered.

I read an interesting article in the July/August issue of PC Photo on page 29 as part of a dispelling myths piece. For this, and other information I read I think that our photos are much safer than ever before (film, negatives etc) on cd's. Using high quality cd's is a good idea of course. The mere thought of our cd's "rotting" and losing our precious photos is enough to make most of our blood run cold. Perish the thought! I guess only time will tell....lots of time. But I feel pretty safe with all my backup options.
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Yes, DVD players show images at 720x480 which naturally is inferior to a PC screen. Using your tv as a slide show screen will not let you study details in a photo, but is a good way to enjoy holiday and other photos with family and friends. With the HDTVs coming into the market, there probably will follow a new genreation of media that has better resolution than DVD, and hopefully it will be compatible with DVD-discs so you can get more out of the photos you have organised on the discs.

I guess the smoothing out of photos when resized to 720x480 depends on your DVD player, but can obviously be helped by programs as mentioned in previous post. For family use, you don't need anything apart from a CD-writer and a blank CD-R.
 
Hello Theresa,

I am using Ulead's Picture Show 4 for making/burning slideshows on DVD. However, I have noticed the following:

1) The high quality digital photos don't have that clarity when they are converted to a slideshow and burned to a DVD?

2) I have used motion effects such as Pan & Zoom, but have noticed that the quality gets degraded appreciably.

The overall slideshow rendering comes out ok and should be good enough for a general slideshow presentation, but if one hopes to see the same high quality digital photos on a DVD, then I am afraid one would be disappointed. Is this to be expected?

Regards

Kunal
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it's pretty primitive. ProShow Gold is awesome and can make
slideshows independently viewable.
http://www.photodex.com/products/proshow/
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