OK you win, I finally gave in to shooting with RAW (large pics)

[Paulo Rodrigues]

Why bother with RAW when your Jpegs look so good? )

I am with you, though. There is no one perfect way of doing
things. You've just got to keep the balance between getting great
images and keeping the fun in photography.

I was experimenting with Picasa and raw today. I dropped a couple of Canon raw files in it and it was just like using jpegs. It did a pretty good conversion on the fly. If it were that easy I would shoot raw, use the picasa conversions where the jpegs looked ok and only fiddle with the raw file if it really needed it.

The only problem is that Picasa doesn't support 7D raw images At least not yet.

 

[David Goolsby]

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.

Great detail in these shots, José! We're slowly wearing you down ;-)
Wait until you see the highlights you've been missing on your outdoor shots!

--
David

'Totally Satisfied Maxxum 7D Owner and Proud Owner of the Maxxum 'PrimeTime'
Lineup (Maxxum 50/2.8 Macro, 85/1.4, 200/2.8)

 

[oldman]

A friend of mine took a picture in raw, resampled it in 16 color dept up to 70x50cm (28x20") 300 dpi and it worked out well! He said that tryed it with jpeg at first but it didn´t work. Now he allways shoot in raw.
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http://www.grimmer.se/stat/stat.asp?bild=Enlargement&url=http://www.grimmer.se/stat/forumcounter.jpg

 

[José B]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/032127878X/qid=1109652628/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-9796775-0236819?v=glance&s=books

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Todd
Havin' a blast in 7D Land.

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

I am with you, though. There is no one perfect way of doing
things. You've just got to keep the balance between getting great
images and keeping the fun in photography.

Right on Rich!

Cheers,

José

--
Cheerio...
Rich

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

I'm kinda new to this so I have yet to try out other RAW software but so far I like ACR,

José

Did you use Adobe Camera RAW?
Did you get a chance to compare with RAW Shooter?

-Matt

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

Yes I got the ACR with PS-CS and also just bought the Bruce Fraser's book. There's so much to learn. I like your tip of RAW+jpeg because the ability to zoom is very important to me when I check for focus.

Cheers,

José

I also agree with the suggestion of shooting RAW + JPEG if you have
enough storage space. The JPEG is great for zooming on the spot
with your camera if you want to do that, then you have more
workflow options for processing later on.

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.

--
Cheers from John
down under in Adelaide, South Australia
A1 25 Dec 03 to its drowning on 29 Dec 04 (
Dynax 7D from 25 Jan 05 )
My PBase galleries since 16 Apr 04:
http://www.pbase.com/john_down_under
Konica Minolta Challenges, FAx and Faces:
http://www.pbase.com/mtf_foto_studies
7D website: http://www.dyxum.com

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

Now that I am interested in learning more about RAW, I have to go back and read the stuff you've been writing about the different RAW conversion software available.

Cheers,

José

No critique, your pictures are excellent, but thought I would
mention this some time back when you mentioned ExpoDisc:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml

Quote from the bottom of the article:

"Because of this difference, setting up the exposure using an 18%
gray card (as is typically done with film) does not work so well
with a digital camera. You will get better results if you set your
exposure such that the whitest white in the scene comes close to,
but not quite reaching, the full digital scale (255 for 8-bit
capture, 65535 for 16-bit capture). Base the exposure on the
highlight for a digital camera, and a mid-tone (e.g. 18% gray card)
for a film camera."

I also find this article interesting:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/understanding-histograms.shtml

Keep up your good work

Geir Ove

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
My album at: http://objective.bitfikler.com/geirove/web/

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

I think I will, also just like JDU said I can still zoom in when I look at my viewfinder when checking for focus.

Cheers,

José

Try this combo for awhile if storage space isn't a problem. If
you're happy with the JPEG, use it. Else, redo using the RAW file.
Flexible!

Cheers!

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Des

'Charter Member of the Konica Minolta 7D Adoption Society'

Please visit me at http://racandes.fotopic.net/
7D Dedicated Site: http://www.dyxum.com

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

Yeah, that makes sense Vance.

José

Hey Jose,

Try this combo for awhile if storage space isn't a problem. If
you're happy with the JPEG, use it. Else, redo using the RAW file.
Flexible!

Cheers!

--
Vance Zachary
http://www.pbase.com/photoworkszach
http://www.photoworksbyzachary.com

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

I like RAW for the extra dynamic range it affords.

--

http://www.pbase.com/duncanmcklowd

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

I have to agree with you, I am pleasantly surprised that it is really not that time consuming.

Cheers,

José

Great images, as before -- been meaning to head down there myself
when the light is right.

I think you'll find yourself shooting more and more in Camera Raw
-- and even regretting not having the flexibility to go back and
adjust previous shots... Full control over WB (even to creative
ends) is one tool that is invaluable. Overall, ACR does not so
much add another step in your PS worksflow, as make the process
both more effcient and more enjoyable.

The Fraser book, as mentioned, is a great help in getting started,

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Markwp

http://www.pbase.com/markwp

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

I think I will shoot with RAW + jpeg just because it still enables me to zoom in when I do the playback so I can check focus.

Cheers,

José

I agree 100% with John. I also bought the book and if you only get
one bit of information that helps your workflow it is worth the $.
I always capture Raw + Jpeg now and I have never used the jpeg. I
think processing with Raw brings you closer to the optimum point
faster so you end up with a better picture faster. I typically
only add sharpening after I come out of ACR. I love its CA
correction capabilities and its Luminance noise reduction.

Picts look great as usual.

Dave

I also agree with the suggestion of shooting RAW + JPEG if you have
enough storage space. The JPEG is great for zooming on the spot
with your camera if you want to do that, then you have more
workflow options for processing later on.

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.

--
Cheers from John
down under in Adelaide, South Australia
A1 25 Dec 03 to its drowning on 29 Dec 04 (
Dynax 7D from 25 Jan 05 )
My PBase galleries since 16 Apr 04:
http://www.pbase.com/john_down_under
Konica Minolta Challenges, FAx and Faces:
http://www.pbase.com/mtf_foto_studies
7D website: http://www.dyxum.com

--
----------
Maxium Digital - 7D, 7Hi

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

Needless to say, I need more memory. When I shot with film I think my keepers are 2 out of 36 shots. So when I use the 7D and if I shoot RAW + Jpeg, I can only shoot about 160 shots for 2GB CF card. Well, it won't cut it if I spend minimum of 6 hours a day for three days in August for the US Open tuneup. Now I have an excuse to buy the iPOD Photo

Cheers,

José

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Sol
'Charter Member of the Konica Minolta 7D Adoption Society'
http://solarviewphoto.com/
'IS' will make your lens a better lens.
'VR' will make your lens a better lens.
'AS' will make you a better Photographer.

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[gwj5035]

Cheers,

José

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Sol
'Charter Member of the Konica Minolta 7D Adoption Society'
http://solarviewphoto.com/
'IS' will make your lens a better lens.
'VR' will make your lens a better lens.
'AS' will make you a better Photographer.

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

 

[José B]

Rogers ATT Cup, August 13-20, 2005----a major WTA tournament and a tune-up for the U.S. Open in NYC.

Cheers,

José

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Sol
'Charter Member of the Konica Minolta 7D Adoption Society'
http://solarviewphoto.com/
'IS' will make your lens a better lens.
'VR' will make your lens a better lens.
'AS' will make you a better Photographer.

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d

A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma 70-200/2.8 EX

 

[Dave Huntoon]

my wife doesn't have the same logic we have. Fortunately we have a small photo business and it makes enough to pay for the toys. Last year I bought the AV320 Multimedia player. It has a 20 Gig hard drive. I went on vacation and loaded up 11 DVD's, 3Gig of music and still had 10 Gig of space left for pictures. So now that I have the 7D I will only load 5 DVD's on the drive. :-O

I use GordianKnot to rip the DVD's to my hard drive and reduce the size down.

Dave

Cheers,

José

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Sol
'Charter Member of the Konica Minolta 7D Adoption Society'
http://solarviewphoto.com/
'IS' will make your lens a better lens.
'VR' will make your lens a better lens.
'AS' will make you a better Photographer.

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
----------
Maxium Digital - 7D, 7Hi

 

[Paul Hancock]

Jose -if you are referring to using an ipod as a "in the field" storage device you may want to consider an X-drive or something like it instead. I have an ipod and expected to use the belkin CF card adapter to download pics from my 7D. Upon further investigation turns out the belkin adapter is very very slow and consumes considerable battery power. I have used a 20gig x-drive for the last 3 years with no problems and I know their are many better models now on the market.

Cheers,

José

I decided to give RAW a try so I downloaded the 'RAW whatever' on
PS-CS last night and shot these at Union Station with my Maxxum 7D
and Maxxum 35/2. Boy, you RAW proponents are right----I get more
details compared to Jpeg plus I have better control on colour,
shadows, brightness and etc.

Exposed with expodisc. All ISO 1600 shots, manually exposed and
cleaned via Digial Pro GEM and applied USM of 100/0.3/1.

Starting now for tricky lighting and indoors I will shoot only with
RAW. For outdoor pics, I will stick with jpeg.



As usual I welcome your comments.

Cheers,

José

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

--
Sol
'Charter Member of the Konica Minolta 7D Adoption Society'
http://solarviewphoto.com/
'IS' will make your lens a better lens.
'VR' will make your lens a better lens.
'AS' will make you a better Photographer.

--
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
A very exuberant Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D trailblazer. Who's
zooming who: Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6 EX, Maxxum 28-75/2.8 and Sigma
70-200/2.8 EX

 

[Vance Zachary]

I regularly make large 24X30 images from images shot in both RAW and JPG and both have worked fine for me (with interpolation) and grace the walls of the studio along with my medium format shots and people have trouble guessing which is made from which. They (even my fellow photographers) can't tell which image started as a RAW and which started as a JPG. Their guesses are often wrong.

To get great results with JPG, you have got to be very close with proper WB and exposure. Otherwise you get suboptimal results. You have a bit more flexibility and fine tuning control with RAW and that is its real advantage.
--
Vance Zachary
http://www.pbase.com/photoworkszach
http://www.photoworksbyzachary.com