Pentax DS vs. Film (Any company)

[stefaan]

Indeed Todd,
"> I was reading up on slide film and it sounded like it is less

forgiving as far as mistakes."

In fact, not forgiven at all.

The Ds lets one see some obvious 'mistakes' and allows a retry (as far as one can see this from a 2" LCD screen).

I have been shooting slides for +30 years and was always concerned with opting for SLR's with great/best metering: IMO Pentax and Nikon bodies.

As far as I can tell Pentax (& Nikon) continue this 'tradition' into the Digital SLR era. They will remain my pick !

(Dunno for sure yet, but e.g. considering pics I saw from Canon 350D/XT:
highlights blown out, even more so than the 300D?)

 

[mariuscosmos]

So it sure is no Ds vs Film to me: gimme both.

Thanks very much to all for valuable insigths.

I started this thread trying to see if digital prints from Pentax DS (specifically) are similar with the ones that I get from a Nikon film SLR. The thorough replies convinced me that the answer is yes. So instead of selling the Nikon to buy a more expensive film body and lenses, I would keep the Nikon and invest in a Pentax DS (plus the kit lens and a prime for portraits).

The main concern now with a digital SLR is that I will become lazy and pay less attention and care to a single shot. That's what I come to appreciate to film, after being an early enthusiast to digital cameras: that you are more economical and think twice when releasing the trigger. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, you can be surprised with film, because things are less under your control. So, it's like a game.

Mariuscosmos

 

[Jim King]

So it sure is no Ds vs Film to me: gimme both.

Thanks very much to all for valuable insigths.

I started this thread trying to see if digital prints from Pentax
DS (specifically) are similar with the ones that I get from a Nikon
film SLR. The thorough replies convinced me that the answer is yes.
So instead of selling the Nikon to buy a more expensive film body
and lenses, I would keep the Nikon and invest in a Pentax DS (plus
the kit lens and a prime for portraits).

The main concern now with a digital SLR is that I will become lazy
and pay less attention and care to a single shot. That's what I
come to appreciate to film, after being an early enthusiast to
digital cameras: that you are more economical and think twice when
releasing the trigger. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, you can be
surprised with film, because things are less under your control.
So, it's like a game.

mariuscosmos - if you can squeeze out the extra money, do yourself a favor and buy the DA 16-45 lens in place of the less expensive 18-55 kit lens. The kit lens is not bad, but the 16-45 is definitely better. Remember the old adage, "buy cheap and buy twice". If you buy the DA 14-45 you will be happy with it as long as you shoot with a Pentax DSLR - you'll never grow out of it.
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[Godfrey]

The main concern now with a digital SLR is that I will become lazy
and pay less attention and care to a single shot. That's what I
come to appreciate to film, after being an early enthusiast to
digital cameras: that you are more economical and think twice when
releasing the trigger. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, you can be
surprised with film, because things are less under your control.

You can do the same thing with a digital camera of the calibre of a DSLR as you do with a film SLR. It's all a matter of discipline, thinking through what you're doing with the camera when you make an exposure. I work with digital cameras in exactly the same way I do with film cameras ... If I don't think through what I want and how I'm going to achieve it, I generally get junk.

Godfrey

 

[Rich]

The main concern now with a digital SLR is that I will become lazy
and pay less attention and care to a single shot. That's what I
come to appreciate to film, after being an early enthusiast to
digital cameras: that you are more economical and think twice when
releasing the trigger.

Hehe, it's an enviable problem - kinda like becoming a billionaire and then worrying that you're not going to be as careful with spending money

 

[Todd Kindred]

Make sure you tell us what you think after you get it. Post pics too.

So it sure is no Ds vs Film to me: gimme both.

Thanks very much to all for valuable insigths.

I started this thread trying to see if digital prints from Pentax
DS (specifically) are similar with the ones that I get from a Nikon
film SLR. The thorough replies convinced me that the answer is yes.
So instead of selling the Nikon to buy a more expensive film body
and lenses, I would keep the Nikon and invest in a Pentax DS (plus
the kit lens and a prime for portraits).

The main concern now with a digital SLR is that I will become lazy
and pay less attention and care to a single shot. That's what I
come to appreciate to film, after being an early enthusiast to
digital cameras: that you are more economical and think twice when
releasing the trigger. Plus, as I mentioned earlier, you can be
surprised with film, because things are less under your control.
So, it's like a game.

Mariuscosmos

 

[Todd Kindred]

Found this same subject thread going on in the Pro Digital forum. I ran upon this ineresting post.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1014&message=12377435

Hi everybody,

I am DSLR wouldbe. I own several digicams (Canon S45, Pentax Optio
S4, another Canon) and a 35mm Nikon F65 (with kit lens). Taken up
by the DSLR 'fury', I was looking to make the step into buying one.
But then I was struck by the quality of prints from my 35 mm
camera. So now, I have second thoughts.

I am considering buying a DS. Canon XT seems to be a good
alternative. But the DS really stuck into my heart. The difference
in money between a DSLR and a film camera is significant. I don't
know about the quality of prints. I cannot really tell from what I
see on the screen. It may be diferrent. I would like the pictures
to have the 'film' feeling anyway.

The question is: can you take pictures with a DS that compare in
quality with a film camera?

Thank you in advance

Mariuscosmos
Ps. I like your forum.

 

[mariuscosmos]

Found this same subject thread going on in the Pro Digital forum. I
ran upon this ineresting post.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1014&message=12377435

Thank you Todd.

It was informative indeed as it was our thread. Actually, I don't mind which is better, film or digital. I just wanted to know if prints from each media look the same or different. More specifically, if the prints from a DSLR (which I haven't used so far) can have a similar look as those from a film camera (which I used and liked).

The answer that I got is that is worth going for a DSLR after all. I don't want to 'bump' this thread without reason so that's why I didn't insist. Also, because I got what I looked for. A satisfactory answer. Anyway, I will remember to post my first pictures with a new Pentax (hopefully, in one month, when it's my birthday, the prices will have gone even lower, because of the XT factor). It is a pleasure anyway to read this forum.

 

[Todd Kindred]

I know you have made your decision but I think you may be interested in this gallery. He has some really nice Pentax Digital photos. He has other stuff as well. It seems he has shot with everything imaginable and he really likes his Pentax ist DS. I hope to be following soon with my Pentax DSLR too.

http://www.pbase.com/ed1215/maon_istds

Found this same subject thread going on in the Pro Digital forum. I
ran upon this ineresting post.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1014&message=12377435

Thank you Todd.

It was informative indeed as it was our thread. Actually, I don't
mind which is better, film or digital. I just wanted to know if
prints from each media look the same or different. More
specifically, if the prints from a DSLR (which I haven't used so
far) can have a similar look as those from a film camera (which I
used and liked).

The answer that I got is that is worth going for a DSLR after all.
I don't want to 'bump' this thread without reason so that's why I
didn't insist. Also, because I got what I looked for. A
satisfactory answer. Anyway, I will remember to post my first
pictures with a new Pentax (hopefully, in one month, when it's my
birthday, the prices will have gone even lower, because of the XT
factor). It is a pleasure anyway to read this forum.