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Popular Photography Camera of the year
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At least the nikon hasn't locked up on me..yet. I almost threw the 20D into the trash today when it locked up during a wedding shoot. I missed a few shots that the bride would have loved.
Daniella68313
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This is only one more of their countless mistakes 
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Daniella68313
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replace it. Mine had not locked after 8,000 pics.
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TheAmateur
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... the best camera of the year for those editors who do NOT have a Canon 20D to test. If you look at the list of camera they test, they do not have a 20D to test. Just I like I am the photographers of the year 2004 (and even decade) in my family where noone else touch a digital camera.
I am not saying the D70 is a bad camera, but going so far as trashing the 20D... hummm.
By the way, I shoot with a 10D and has no reason to be bias for the 20D. I have also shot with the 20D before. I also have tried the D70 at a group shoot out too.
I am not saying the D70 is a bad camera, but going so far as trashing the 20D... hummm.
By the way, I shoot with a 10D and has no reason to be bias for the 20D. I have also shot with the 20D before. I also have tried the D70 at a group shoot out too.
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JoshW
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Great camera, that's helped to bring down the price for all of us!
Congrats to Nikon...
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Congrats to Nikon...
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Cal Dawson
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with the lead time for the presses they havn't seen the 20D yet. But hey that's the printed world...
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Robert Deutsch
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They didn't trash the 20D--it wasn't even mentioned. They also didn't trash the Digital Rebel; they just said that the D70 added some refinements to what the D Rebel had wrought. That's pretty much what Phil Askey said, too. If the publication lag of Pop Photo is similar to that of the audio magazines I write for, the copy for the December issue would have had to be submitted by September 20, which means that they didn't have enough time to do a thorough review of the 20D in time. BTW, I don't own the D70, but I've owned the D Rebel and now own the 20D.
Bob
DancePhotographer
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A very nice camera in the lower price range, but it wasn't even compared to the 20D because the 20D wasn't out when they did the review.
Printed magazines are so 70's.
Printed magazines are so 70's.
Last time I checked their website a week or two ago -- and I don't have time to go back and check again now -- they were describing the 20D in their what's new section and giving out ominous warnings about its high noise due to the more tightly packed pixels on the 8MP check. Those were reasonable concerns before some cameras became available for testing perhaps, but those concerns had been exploded for weeks while Pop Photo still propagated them on its web site.
8MP noise on the the 20D. Be afraid...be very afraid. Ooooohhwhwhh!
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Last year I subscribed when I got a price of
I'm cutting back to one general hardcopy photo mag: Shutterbug. Ciao.
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8MP noise on the the 20D. Be afraid...be very afraid. Ooooohhwhwhh!
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Last year I subscribed when I got a price of
I'm cutting back to one general hardcopy photo mag: Shutterbug. Ciao.
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Some of you guys are amazing. Give credit where credit is due, the D70 is an amazing camera and probably kept the price of the 20D down. As a former 10D owner and owner of a Rebel, a 1D (actually selling on E-bay), a 1D Mk-2, and 20D on order, I will tell you that the D70 runs rings around all of them when it comes to flash shooting and the color is just as good or better.
Step outside and shoot sports, wildlife, anything in low light without flash, and bring up the Canon's. I keep a Tamron 180 Macro with SB-800 on my D70 in the car all the time and have amazing macro shots, hand held, with incredible color with no effort at all. Manual mode, 1/500 synch speed (Rebel, 10D, 20D can't do that), SB 800 flash = great shots. I had no Nikon glass at all when my dealer told me to take home the D70 with kit lens. I wouldn't give it back and eventually wound up with a small amount of Nikon compatible glass from Tamron and Sigma and a 80-400 VR Nikon. I will get a D2X when available and all sorted out.
The Mk-2 is the best camera I have ever used, my son thinks the Rebel with battery grip and 70-200L is the only way to go because of picture quality and ease of use, but the D70 is a great camera and absolutely worthy of the award.
I haven't used the D70 but I hear it's quite good & etc.
To me it's Pop Photo's sometimes uneven reviews (features that they are shocked are absent on one model are absent on a competor's model also, but they don't even mention it, for example.) Their new hipster editorial breezy blurb style is just not jiggy. (See, I even irritate myself when I try to imitate their new style.)
Yes, Pop Photo's hardcopy pages reflect editorial deadlines -- but Camera of the Year before 2004 is over? And having the deadline for such an article before Photokina??? What were they thinking?
They missed not only the Canon 20D, but the Nikon D2x AND the Mamiya ZD (which would be my choice for camera of the year.)
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To me it's Pop Photo's sometimes uneven reviews (features that they are shocked are absent on one model are absent on a competor's model also, but they don't even mention it, for example.) Their new hipster editorial breezy blurb style is just not jiggy. (See, I even irritate myself when I try to imitate their new style.)
Yes, Pop Photo's hardcopy pages reflect editorial deadlines -- but Camera of the Year before 2004 is over? And having the deadline for such an article before Photokina??? What were they thinking?
They missed not only the Canon 20D, but the Nikon D2x AND the Mamiya ZD (which would be my choice for camera of the year.)
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If the publication lag of Pop
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Hi Bob, good to see another audiophile on this site. Life is funny, analog keeps me in audio and digital got me into photography.
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Nitecops
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I can agree with this choice. The 20D is a bit more bucks than the D70, lacks the higher sync, color meter and that stupid firmware screwup was a horrible mistake.
But, the D70 has some issues that I don't like. It lacks a vertical grip (dumb). The moire problem was a very serious issue. Unless Nikon has somehow fixed this (I haven't kept on D70 news) it would really make me mad if I had a shot ruined by the horrible moire the D70 can produce. The pop photo write up also dings the D70 for the awful viewfinder. This I agree with. The D70 has a horrible view finder and the focus point selection indicator is worse then the Digital Rebel.
However, for $999, it's still one hell of a camera and something Canon really should not have given them the opportunity to produce.
It seems to me that Nikon's strategy is to fill the holes in Canon's lineup that Canon can't address.
Canon has the Drebel on the low end. The 20D in the mid range. Nikon can't compete with both so they just take the midground.
Canon has the 1Ds Mk II at 16.7MP studio camera and the sports shooter Mk II at 8MP.
Nikon can't compete (the D2H was just a waste of time) so instead, it makes a studio camera D2X that can almost double as a sports shooter camera in its cropped mode. Purty smart if you don't have the resources and R&D muscle that Canon has.
Getting back to the subject, I'd take the 20D over the D70 any day of the week. But, I'd also would like a Drebel with the capabilities of the D70 as well for $800.
But, the D70 has some issues that I don't like. It lacks a vertical grip (dumb). The moire problem was a very serious issue. Unless Nikon has somehow fixed this (I haven't kept on D70 news) it would really make me mad if I had a shot ruined by the horrible moire the D70 can produce. The pop photo write up also dings the D70 for the awful viewfinder. This I agree with. The D70 has a horrible view finder and the focus point selection indicator is worse then the Digital Rebel.
However, for $999, it's still one hell of a camera and something Canon really should not have given them the opportunity to produce.
It seems to me that Nikon's strategy is to fill the holes in Canon's lineup that Canon can't address.
Canon has the Drebel on the low end. The 20D in the mid range. Nikon can't compete with both so they just take the midground.
Canon has the 1Ds Mk II at 16.7MP studio camera and the sports shooter Mk II at 8MP.
Nikon can't compete (the D2H was just a waste of time) so instead, it makes a studio camera D2X that can almost double as a sports shooter camera in its cropped mode. Purty smart if you don't have the resources and R&D muscle that Canon has.
Getting back to the subject, I'd take the 20D over the D70 any day of the week. But, I'd also would like a Drebel with the capabilities of the D70 as well for $800.
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