purple cast from 2200

Hello I need help.

When I use the epson Enhanced Matte paper and the sp2200 enhanced matte 2880 MK profile the prints have a purple cast. It is most noticable in areas that should be blue sky. The monitor has the correct color. I am using the ICM with no color adjustment setting. Are there any additional settings that I need?

wgdean

wgd said:

Hello I need help.
When I use the epson Enhanced Matte paper and the sp2200 enhanced
matte 2880 MK profile the prints have a purple cast. It is most
noticable in areas that should be blue sky. The monitor has the
correct color. I am using the ICM with no color adjustment
setting. Are there any additional settings that I need?

wgdean

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Download the later ICC profile from the Epson site, it's a huge improvement . Your profile will be Enhanced Matte icc., you have a choice as I recall of downloading 2880 or 1440, I use 1440, it's painless !
David

David Grabowski said:

wgd said:

Hello I need help.
When I use the epson Enhanced Matte paper and the sp2200 enhanced
matte 2880 MK profile the prints have a purple cast. It is most
noticable in areas that should be blue sky. The monitor has the
correct color. I am using the ICM with no color adjustment
setting. Are there any additional settings that I need?

wgdean

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Download the later ICC profile from the Epson site, it's a huge
improvement . Your profile will be Enhanced Matte icc., you have a
choice as I recall of downloading 2880 or 1440, I use 1440, it's
painless !
David

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David thanks for your reply. I should have been more precise in my 1st post. I am using the Enhance Matte icc profile that I down loaded from Epson. I've cleaned the heads. The source space is Adobe RGB 1998. When I use that as the print space I don't get purple tint but, the other colors don't seem quite accurate. Please give me another suggestion or 2

wgdean

Are you printing direct from Photoshop, or are you printing in Film Factory?

If using FF, then turn off the color management because you're getting a double dose of it.

Try downloading a good tagged Adobe RGB (1998) file PDI Target AdobeRGB.jpg
http://www.gballard.net/nca.html#getagoodfile
view it on screen in Photoshop (honor the profile)
how does it look in Photoshop?
how does it print??

If it doesn't look in in PS, your monitor profile is off.
If it doesn't print good from PS, your Epson setting are off.

I like to explain an Epson Photoshop workflow like this No Color Adjustment:
http://www.gballard.net/nca.html

Andrew Rodney:
http://digitaldog.imagingrevue.com/tips/
Ian Lyons:
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/home.htm
Bruce Fraser articles page:
http://www.creativepro.com/author/home/40.html

And if u got the green for private lessons:
http://www.imagingrevue.com/

wgd said:

David Grabowski said:

wgd said:

Hello I need help.
When I use the epson Enhanced Matte paper and the sp2200 enhanced
matte 2880 MK profile the prints have a purple cast. It is most
noticable in areas that should be blue sky. The monitor has the
correct color. I am using the ICM with no color adjustment
setting. Are there any additional settings that I need?

wgdean

Click to expand...

Download the later ICC profile from the Epson site, it's a huge
improvement . Your profile will be Enhanced Matte icc., you have a
choice as I recall of downloading 2880 or 1440, I use 1440, it's
painless !
David

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David thanks for your reply. I should have been more precise in my
1st post. I am using the Enhance Matte icc profile that I down
loaded from Epson. I've cleaned the heads. The source space is
Adobe RGB 1998. When I use that as the print space I don't get
purple tint but, the other colors don't seem quite accurate.
Please give me another suggestion or 2

wgdean

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The best I can tell you is that usually a magenta or pink cast means a double profile. My case has been to go to the Custom tab , under Advanced, select No Color Control for the printer ( note, that ICM is also a check box there, you don't want that). In Photoshop as I recall, I also have the source set as the source is ( For the Nikon D100 a close setting is Adobe RGB since I shoot that camera in RGB color space, but it will also tag itself ,for the Fuji S2 a closer setting is one of the sRGB settings though I often don't change it anyway. In the output box is the profile (on the final page before you go to hit the Ok button to print the image).In PS, at the top of the color management page under edit, I have US Prepress set in that top box. If my prints are dark it's usually monitor calibration ( needs a retouch), but if a magenta cast is present, it's either a glogged nozzle ( happened once in almost two years), or I was running in automatic or Photo Enhanced 4 and forgot to turn off Printer Color Controls before going back to printing with a profile.

I've most recently been printing with QImage though, which I feel is less fussy about all this. I've been printing from there with Ilford Smooth Pearl and Ilfords downloaded profile for that paper and Epson 2200 combo. Great results so far.

Also, are you actually getting magenta prints, or is the proof sample magenta. The 2200 has a bug about this on screen, often the image you see on screen on setup will be magenta, but the print won't be.

David

thanks for the link! I lost it among the 1000's of bookmarks. Even though I get great color match 99% of the time there were a few pictures that drove me crazy. I tried them with the link's settings and they came out much better. I also got a magenta tint on one sepia tone photo before using these settings.

g_ballard said:

Try downloading a good tagged Adobe RGB (1998) file PDI Target
AdobeRGB.jpg
http://www.gballard.net/nca.html#getagoodfile
view it on screen in Photoshop (honor the profile)
how does it look in Photoshop?
how does it print??

If it doesn't look in in PS, your monitor profile is off.
If it doesn't print good from PS, your Epson setting are off.

I like to explain an Epson Photoshop workflow like this No Color
Adjustment:
http://www.gballard.net/nca.html

Andrew Rodney:
http://digitaldog.imagingrevue.com/tips/
Ian Lyons:
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/home.htm
Bruce Fraser articles page:
http://www.creativepro.com/author/home/40.html

And if u got the green for private lessons:
http://www.imagingrevue.com/

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cspringer said:

g_ballard said:

Try downloading a good tagged Adobe RGB (1998) file PDI Target
AdobeRGB.jpg
http://www.gballard.net/nca.html#getagoodfile
view it on screen in Photoshop (honor the profile)
how does it look in Photoshop?
how does it print??

If it doesn't look in in PS, your monitor profile is off.
If it doesn't print good from PS, your Epson setting are off.

I like to explain an Epson Photoshop workflow like this No Color
Adjustment:
http://www.gballard.net/nca.html

Andrew Rodney:
http://digitaldog.imagingrevue.com/tips/
Ian Lyons:
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/home.htm
Bruce Fraser articles page:
http://www.creativepro.com/author/home/40.html

And if u got the green for private lessons:
http://www.imagingrevue.com/

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Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. When in doubt go back to beginning. I going to get a Colorvision Spyder and recalibrate the monitor. This seems to be a common sugestion so that is where I'll start. I had done it before with Adobe Gamma but I heard that it is not sufficient. I'll let you know if that solves the problem.

thanks
wgd

ps gballad has some really interest info on his site and links.