Suggest a good Digital Wallet?

Delaney Lovell

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I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.

Thanks,
 
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.

Thanks,
--
Frank from Phoenix
Canon 1D Mk2, Minolta G500 and lots of typos
digital evolution: Nikon 990> OlyE20> Pentax *ist D> CanonMK2> ?????
 
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.
Delaney, you might want to look at my post and subsequent replies at this link.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=9779787

Additionally, I'll tell you exactly what I did.

HD: Travelstar 4k40, HTS424040M9AT00, P/N 13G1132 purchased from http://www.buy.com (SKU 10374627). This 40 Gig drive has "by far" the best shock performance (per the specifications). I plan on testing the drive for about one or two days (i.e. multiple low level formats) before I use it.

The rest of the stuff (four items listed below) was purchased from [ http://www.insidecomputer.com ].

1. Image Tank III (based on questions to vendors, this unit has the highest capacity internal battery in the business). The real reason I purchased this over a Tripper - well, the Image Tank III handles both SD and CF memory and I use both on my mkII.

2. Laptop 2.5" to Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive Adapter Converter w/Brackets; this will be used to connect the new hard drive to an IDE controller for the tests I discussed above. BTW, if you go to the Hitachi/IBM support site, you can download DFT (Drive Fitness Test), make a bootable floppy, and perform the same test I plan on doing. Or, per one of the replies to my post, you can go and download the image for the "Ultimate CD"; this CD has the diagnostics for both Hitachi/IBM as well as Western Digital. The only difference is everything is on one CD as versus multiple floppies.

3. Six-AA Battery Holder (obvious portable emergency storage).

4. iPower Battery with Adjustable Voltage and Flashlight (again obvious portable power, but not as convenient and portable as the Six-AA Battery Holder).

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to give you a test report. I just received the hard drive this afternoon and the stuff from insidecomputer.com should arrive tomorrow.

Hope this helps you out with your question.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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So what's the grand total for all those items?
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.
Delaney, you might want to look at my post and subsequent replies
at this link.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=9779787

Additionally, I'll tell you exactly what I did.

HD: Travelstar 4k40, HTS424040M9AT00, P/N 13G1132 purchased from
http://www.buy.com (SKU 10374627). This 40 Gig drive has "by far" the
best shock performance (per the specifications). I plan on testing
the drive for about one or two days (i.e. multiple low level
formats) before I use it.

The rest of the stuff (four items listed below) was purchased from
[ http://www.insidecomputer.com ].

1. Image Tank III (based on questions to vendors, this unit has
the highest capacity internal battery in the business). The real
reason I purchased this over a Tripper - well, the Image Tank III
handles both SD and CF memory and I use both on my mkII.

2. Laptop 2.5" to Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive Adapter Converter
w/Brackets; this will be used to connect the new hard drive to an
IDE controller for the tests I discussed above. BTW, if you go to
the Hitachi/IBM support site, you can download DFT (Drive Fitness
Test), make a bootable floppy, and perform the same test I plan on
doing. Or, per one of the replies to my post, you can go and
download the image for the "Ultimate CD"; this CD has the
diagnostics for both Hitachi/IBM as well as Western Digital. The
only difference is everything is on one CD as versus multiple
floppies.

3. Six-AA Battery Holder (obvious portable emergency storage).

4. iPower Battery with Adjustable Voltage and Flashlight (again
obvious portable power, but not as convenient and portable as the
Six-AA Battery Holder).

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to give you a test report. I
just received the hard drive this afternoon and the stuff from
insidecomputer.com should arrive tomorrow.

Hope this helps you out with your question.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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I've got a Compact Drive PSD coming in from mydigitaldiscount.com today. email me at [email protected] in a day or so and I can give you my impressions.

What they tell me is that its fast. Way faster than the older models, maybe faster than the fastests ImageTank G2.
It runs on AA batteries. Good and bad, but I dont mind rechargables.
Its cheap! $240 for 40gb.
It has no backlight on the screen. Big bummer.
It MAY not be FAT32 compatable, hence no cards > 2GB.

The only thing that bothers me right now is the lack of a backlight and the price being so right, I think I can overlook that.

I hear all the X's-Drive models have really slow card to drive speeds, same with Tripper, and the ImageTanks aren't even made anymore or at least their company is falling apart.

Like I said, email me to ask my review in a day or so.

-Nick
 
Approximate prices (I don't have my invoice handy) are listed below.

Image Tank III - $150
Hard Drive - $115
iPower Battery - $40
The remaining two items were about $7 each.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.
Delaney, you might want to look at my post and subsequent replies
at this link.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=9779787

Additionally, I'll tell you exactly what I did.

HD: Travelstar 4k40, HTS424040M9AT00, P/N 13G1132 purchased from
http://www.buy.com (SKU 10374627). This 40 Gig drive has "by far" the
best shock performance (per the specifications). I plan on testing
the drive for about one or two days (i.e. multiple low level
formats) before I use it.

The rest of the stuff (four items listed below) was purchased from
[ http://www.insidecomputer.com ].

1. Image Tank III (based on questions to vendors, this unit has
the highest capacity internal battery in the business). The real
reason I purchased this over a Tripper - well, the Image Tank III
handles both SD and CF memory and I use both on my mkII.

2. Laptop 2.5" to Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive Adapter Converter
w/Brackets; this will be used to connect the new hard drive to an
IDE controller for the tests I discussed above. BTW, if you go to
the Hitachi/IBM support site, you can download DFT (Drive Fitness
Test), make a bootable floppy, and perform the same test I plan on
doing. Or, per one of the replies to my post, you can go and
download the image for the "Ultimate CD"; this CD has the
diagnostics for both Hitachi/IBM as well as Western Digital. The
only difference is everything is on one CD as versus multiple
floppies.

3. Six-AA Battery Holder (obvious portable emergency storage).

4. iPower Battery with Adjustable Voltage and Flashlight (again
obvious portable power, but not as convenient and portable as the
Six-AA Battery Holder).

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to give you a test report. I
just received the hard drive this afternoon and the stuff from
insidecomputer.com should arrive tomorrow.

Hope this helps you out with your question.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter
 
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.

Thanks,
--
http://www.pbase.com/richadams

'A weath of laws creates a poverty of common sense'
I got the Xs drive pro and although not the fastest thing around it is absolutley 100% stable and is a very good card reader as well.

--
Dave C
 
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.
Delaney, you might want to look at my post and subsequent replies
at this link.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=9779787

Additionally, I'll tell you exactly what I did.

HD: Travelstar 4k40, HTS424040M9AT00, P/N 13G1132 purchased from
http://www.buy.com (SKU 10374627). This 40 Gig drive has "by far" the
best shock performance (per the specifications). I plan on testing
the drive for about one or two days (i.e. multiple low level
formats) before I use it.

The rest of the stuff (four items listed below) was purchased from
[ http://www.insidecomputer.com ].

1. Image Tank III (based on questions to vendors, this unit has
the highest capacity internal battery in the business). The real
reason I purchased this over a Tripper - well, the Image Tank III
handles both SD and CF memory and I use both on my mkII.

2. Laptop 2.5" to Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive Adapter Converter
w/Brackets; this will be used to connect the new hard drive to an
IDE controller for the tests I discussed above. BTW, if you go to
the Hitachi/IBM support site, you can download DFT (Drive Fitness
Test), make a bootable floppy, and perform the same test I plan on
doing. Or, per one of the replies to my post, you can go and
download the image for the "Ultimate CD"; this CD has the
diagnostics for both Hitachi/IBM as well as Western Digital. The
only difference is everything is on one CD as versus multiple
floppies.

3. Six-AA Battery Holder (obvious portable emergency storage).

4. iPower Battery with Adjustable Voltage and Flashlight (again
obvious portable power, but not as convenient and portable as the
Six-AA Battery Holder).

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to give you a test report. I
just received the hard drive this afternoon and the stuff from
insidecomputer.com should arrive tomorrow.

Hope this helps you out with your question.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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Please do let us know your impressions and do put it through it's paces. The price sounds great too!

Thanks,
Delaney
I've got a Compact Drive PSD coming in from mydigitaldiscount.com
today. email me at [email protected] in a day or so and I can
give you my impressions.
What they tell me is that its fast. Way faster than the older
models, maybe faster than the fastests ImageTank G2.
It runs on AA batteries. Good and bad, but I dont mind rechargables.
Its cheap! $240 for 40gb.
It has no backlight on the screen. Big bummer.
It MAY not be FAT32 compatable, hence no cards > 2GB.
The only thing that bothers me right now is the lack of a backlight
and the price being so right, I think I can overlook that.

I hear all the X's-Drive models have really slow card to drive
speeds, same with Tripper, and the ImageTanks aren't even made
anymore or at least their company is falling apart.

Like I said, email me to ask my review in a day or so.

-Nick
 
Even if I find a fantastic image wallet, great performance, fast, reads SD and CF cards, blah, blah, blah.....what if the internal HD crashes?

What if I spend a week shooting up a storm, or worse, what if I'm shooting a wedding, and I keep dumping my images into the digital wallet, and at the end of the day, it takes a dump?

Am I being too paranoid? Where does one draw the lne?

Thinking out loud, I think I should dump images to the wallet through out the shoot, then every few hours upload the wallet to a PC/Laptop?

Should I purcahse two Digital wallets, thereby uploading the cards to both of them, just in case?

What are your thoughts on this guys?

Maybe I've got low blood sugar or I need to get my morning coffee....maybe that's why I'm feeling kind of wierd about digital wallets.

Delaney
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.

Thanks,
 
Even if I find a fantastic image wallet, great performance, fast,
reads SD and CF cards, blah, blah, blah.....what if the internal HD
crashes?

What if I spend a week shooting up a storm, or worse, what if I'm
shooting a wedding, and I keep dumping my images into the digital
wallet, and at the end of the day, it takes a dump?

Am I being too paranoid? Where does one draw the lne?
No, your concern is justified in that you are trusting your images to an unknown piece of gear. My first PSD was the old Digital Wallet (10GB) and I had great concern about it.

I was super paranoid just like you express.

But here is the key.

Use the hell out of it when you first get it on shots that are not critical. Fill up a card and dump it to the device over and over until you run the battery down. Do the same thing except fill the hard drive up.

Make the PSD do everything and perform every function that is it designed to perform over and over and over again. Chances are if there is a defective component part you will flush it out with this torture test.

The end result is that you build confidence in your PSD. You also learn the particular operating quirks. I remember learning not to move the Digital Wallet around a lot while it was transfering a card or it would cause a write error on the hard drive.

Connect the device to your PC and work the heck out of the internal drive by either defragmenting it, or repeatedly doing the hard drive test or speed test. Run the dog out of it.

I also did this with my TRIPPER and I have a high level of confidence in the TRIPPER. I have never lost an image with the TRIPPER in almost two years and other than the short battery runtime it works well for me.

Another thing I do is to practice safe memory card writing. By this I mean that I do not let any device except the camera the card is to be used in to write to the card. The only exception is if I am testing the card in the PC. In this case I still formatt the card with the camera it will be used in before letting the camera write images to the card.

The camera should be the only device that formatts your memory card. I also do not move images from the card I only copy. I then format in the camera instead of erasing individual cards.

This workflow has resulted in no lost and only one corrupted image in almost 50,000 Canon RAW (40k D60 and more than 8K MKII) in the last 27 months. I think this process is the reason I have kept my image loss from card or PSD failure to almost nothing.

Good luck and run the boy dog out of whatever PSD you choose. You are not being paranoid, you are being prudent.
--
CDL

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Pbase Supporter
 
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.
Delaney, you might want to look at my post and subsequent replies
at this link.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=9779787

Additionally, I'll tell you exactly what I did.

HD: Travelstar 4k40, HTS424040M9AT00, P/N 13G1132 purchased from
http://www.buy.com (SKU 10374627). This 40 Gig drive has "by far" the
best shock performance (per the specifications). I plan on testing
the drive for about one or two days (i.e. multiple low level
formats) before I use it.

The rest of the stuff (four items listed below) was purchased from
[ http://www.insidecomputer.com ].

1. Image Tank III (based on questions to vendors, this unit has
the highest capacity internal battery in the business). The real
reason I purchased this over a Tripper - well, the Image Tank III
handles both SD and CF memory and I use both on my mkII.

2. Laptop 2.5" to Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive Adapter Converter
w/Brackets; this will be used to connect the new hard drive to an
IDE controller for the tests I discussed above. BTW, if you go to
the Hitachi/IBM support site, you can download DFT (Drive Fitness
Test), make a bootable floppy, and perform the same test I plan on
doing. Or, per one of the replies to my post, you can go and
download the image for the "Ultimate CD"; this CD has the
diagnostics for both Hitachi/IBM as well as Western Digital. The
only difference is everything is on one CD as versus multiple
floppies.

3. Six-AA Battery Holder (obvious portable emergency storage).

4. iPower Battery with Adjustable Voltage and Flashlight (again
obvious portable power, but not as convenient and portable as the
Six-AA Battery Holder).

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to give you a test report. I
just received the hard drive this afternoon and the stuff from
insidecomputer.com should arrive tomorrow.

Hope this helps you out with your question.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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Well, I'm never one to put all my eggs in one basket. I also have a portable computer and an external USB HD that I take on photographic trips (provided I don't have to fly); this way my data is stored on the lap top as well as an external HD. I should point out that two PSDs in not an "out of line" thought on your part.

Your concern regarding HDs is well founded; that is why I'm planning to test the heck out of the new 2.5" drive before actually using it. A low level format is a tough test and I plan on repeated tests for one or two days.

Talk about paranoid, I also have additional external USB HDs at home, but one of them is always kept at work (except when I bring it home to back up an entire drive via a password protected image).

BTW, have fun at the Grand Canyon during your vacation! The GC is a beautiful place; I'm very lucky to have been able to visit there well over a hundred times during the last 34 years.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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What if I spend a week shooting up a storm, or worse, what if I'm
shooting a wedding, and I keep dumping my images into the digital
wallet, and at the end of the day, it takes a dump?

Am I being too paranoid? Where does one draw the lne?

Thinking out loud, I think I should dump images to the wallet
through out the shoot, then every few hours upload the wallet to a
PC/Laptop?

Should I purcahse two Digital wallets, thereby uploading the cards
to both of them, just in case?

What are your thoughts on this guys?

Maybe I've got low blood sugar or I need to get my morning
coffee....maybe that's why I'm feeling kind of wierd about digital
wallets.

Delaney
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.

Thanks,
 
Your concern regarding HDs is well founded; that is why I'm
planning to test the heck out of the new 2.5" drive before actually
using it. A low level format is a tough test and I plan on
repeated tests for one or two days.

Talk about paranoid, I also have additional external USB HDs at
home, but one of them is always kept at work (except when I bring
it home to back up an entire drive via a password protected image).

BTW, have fun at the Grand Canyon during your vacation! The GC is
a beautiful place; I'm very lucky to have been able to visit there
well over a hundred times during the last 34 years.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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What if I spend a week shooting up a storm, or worse, what if I'm
shooting a wedding, and I keep dumping my images into the digital
wallet, and at the end of the day, it takes a dump?

Am I being too paranoid? Where does one draw the lne?

Thinking out loud, I think I should dump images to the wallet
through out the shoot, then every few hours upload the wallet to a
PC/Laptop?

Should I purcahse two Digital wallets, thereby uploading the cards
to both of them, just in case?

What are your thoughts on this guys?

Maybe I've got low blood sugar or I need to get my morning
coffee....maybe that's why I'm feeling kind of wierd about digital
wallets.

Delaney
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.

Thanks,
--
 
You're not being paranoid because all of these units have as their single point of failure a mechanical device (i.e. a laptop hard drive). This will eventually fail. The soak test idea will hopefully flush out the "infant mortality" cases but not the one that fails after say 100 hours....

The precautions you take will depend on how important the images are to you and whether the trip can be repeated. For an upcoming trip of a lifetime to Africa we are taking two laptops and a big enough external HDD to back them both up.

We'll still be scuppered if they get stolen so I haven't ruled out taking CD-Rs to back up the best images and post them home.
 
I was actually thinking of getting two of them and doing double back up.

It is also true that when we download to a laptop, we are as vulnerable as with a digiwallet. You can drop the lap top or its HD can fails as well.

So since some times, within few hours of work, I accumulate shots that in production cost are whorthed many thousand dollars, my assistant after downloading the cf card to the laptop, he also back up to an external HD. Every few hours we back up to a second HD as well.

So I think 2 digital wallet with 60 gig each are a good investment (less than 600$). and they can be used as external HD as well.

I have an anedoct to tell: Once, during one of my shootings, somebody got tangled on the power cable of an 80gb esternal HD from Western & Digital, while we were copying 10 gb of file. Astonishing, after bouncing a couple of times on the wooden floor, the device kept writing and not a single bite of data was lost. The device is still working properly after 1 year.
I'm not counting of being that lucky again.
A.
What if I spend a week shooting up a storm, or worse, what if I'm
shooting a wedding, and I keep dumping my images into the digital
wallet, and at the end of the day, it takes a dump?

Am I being too paranoid? Where does one draw the lne?

Thinking out loud, I think I should dump images to the wallet
through out the shoot, then every few hours upload the wallet to a
PC/Laptop?

Should I purcahse two Digital wallets, thereby uploading the cards
to both of them, just in case?

What are your thoughts on this guys?

Maybe I've got low blood sugar or I need to get my morning
coffee....maybe that's why I'm feeling kind of wierd about digital
wallets.

Delaney
I'd like a good compact digital wallet that runs a harddrive or CF
card and can read same.

What Say You? Money not #1 concern.

I will be in the Grand Canyon area in two weeks for a week long
photo oppertunity, and I only have about 5 gig of card space.

Thanks,
 
I have an anedoct to tell: Once, during one of my shootings,
somebody got tangled on the power cable of an 80gb esternal HD
from Western & Digital, while we were copying 10 gb of file.
Astonishing, after bouncing a couple of times on the wooden floor,
the device kept writing and not a single bite of data was lost. The
device is still working properly after 1 year.
I'm not counting of being that lucky again.
Andrea, that is a remarkable story! On the opposite side of the spectrum, my friend's wife bumped their running tower PC with her arm and the HD went dead - go figure.

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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I put a full 40gb of data on the HD (well, 37.2 or something) using the unit as an external hard drive on one set of lithium AAs and the battery held up, the unit did get hot but thats hours and hours of continuous writing.

2 minutes is the approx write time card to unit, maybe 1.5 minutes for unit to computer via USB 2.0. Overall, I'm happy
 

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