Indoor pictures without flash underexposed.

Do you have the same experience that pics taken indoor with fluorescent or icandescent bulbs without using flash are always dark ? If I use my olympus mju 300 the pics are always well exposed.!
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Hi Ed,

give us an example with EXIF details.

I sat in class last night with flouro light and took photos with the 50mm 1.8 without a flash. The WB balance was a bit off but, however the images weren't too under exposed. (nothing that couldn't be salvaged)

Cheers
Christian

ed cheong said:

Do you have the same experience that pics taken indoor with
fluorescent or icandescent bulbs without using flash are always
dark ? If I use my olympus mju 300 the pics are always well
exposed.!
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Fluorescent light applies some restrictions. As it pulses, your shutter speed should be 1/2 mains frequency, equal to mains frequency, or 2 times mains frequency. In US, where it is 60 Hz, that gives 1/120; 1/60; 1/30. In Europe it is 1/100; 1/50; or 1/25.

for normal skin you can try spot-metering from the face and about -1/2eV

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Olympus Mju 300. It seemed the Mju exposes correctly.

Iliah Borg said:

Fluorescent light applies some restrictions. As it pulses, your
shutter speed should be 1/2 mains frequency, equal to mains
frequency, or 2 times mains frequency. In US, where it is 60 Hz,
that gives 1/120; 1/60; 1/30. In Europe it is 1/100; 1/50; or 1/25.

for normal skin you can try spot-metering from the face and about
-1/2eV

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May I also post some pictures from my Leica, Hasselblad, or Linhof - just for comparison?

Unfortunately, the only thing that is common between all this zoo is that they are all cameras. They demand for quite different handling, different techniques of exposure, and ... the list is endless. Yes, aperure and shutter speeds are the same - or nearly the same.

On a serious note, yes, please do so. If possible, preserve the exif and give some details on the shooting conditions.

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First Photo by D70
Nikon D70
2004/07/28 09:35:29
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Image Size: Large (2000 x 3008)
Lens: 24-40mm F/2.8 D
Focal Length: 30mm
Exposure Mode: Programmed Auto
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/15 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 200
Optimize Image: Custom
White Balance: Auto -2
AF Mode: Manual
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode II (Adobe RGB)
Tone Comp: More Contrast
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Enhanced
Sharpening: High
Image Comment:
Noise Reduction: OFF
http://tinypic.com/19kbp

Olympus
1/2 sec
Iso 160
F 3.1
Everything normal, no sharpening exif cannont be copied
http://tinypic.com/19kc8

Ok, the D70 pic is sharper. But the scence I took it is almost as bright as the Olympus shot ( the pic is brigther than the actual). But it is not as dark as the d70 nikon. And I all I did was point and shoot. No messing with either pic. As you can see, the D70 iso is 1600. And the pic is dark. And the sharpening and saturation I have put to enhanced.

Frankly I dont understand why the exposure is so diff.

ed cheong said:

Do you have the same experience that pics taken indoor with
fluorescent or icandescent bulbs without using flash are always
dark ? If I use my olympus mju 300 the pics are always well
exposed.!
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ed cheong said:

Olympus
1/2 sec
Iso 160
F 3.1
Everything normal, no sharpening exif cannont be copied
http://tinypic.com/19kc8

Ok, the D70 pic is sharper. But the scence I took it is almost as
bright as the Olympus shot ( the pic is brigther than the actual).
But it is not as dark as the d70 nikon. And I all I did was point
and shoot. No messing with either pic. As you can see, the D70 iso
is 1600. And the pic is dark. And the sharpening and saturation I
have put to enhanced.

Frankly I dont understand why the exposure is so diff.

ed cheong said:

Do you have the same experience that pics taken indoor with
fluorescent or icandescent bulbs without using flash are always
dark ? If I use my olympus mju 300 the pics are always well
exposed.!
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Hi Ed,

I compared your EXIF with mine, I couldn't identify any relevant setting that would explain to me the issue.

I used Auto Focus: AF-S and no customisation or enhancement. I also used aperture priority and 50mm f1.8 at f1.8 and f2.2. My photos are not as bright as your Olympus ones but also not as dark as your Nikon ones. However I am wondering whether you using contrast enhancement has any influence.

Cheers
Christian

Hi Ed,

I discovered today that my photos lightened up significally when doing

indoor (no flash) shots using spot metering instead of center-weighted or matrix metering. I get results that are very similar to what your Olympus does.

Hope this helps
Christian

Christiand
I appreciate the suggestion. I did try and found it works.

But my frustration and disbelief why a 300 bucks Olympus when used in matrix mode got exposure right but the 1000 bucks Nikon D70 screwed it up in matrix.

If I use the Olympus in spot metering it is also good. I cannot accept Nikon Dslr having an inferior metering when the subject matter is not complicated nor difficult. There is no reflective or extraneous light.

christiand said:

Hi Ed,

I discovered today that my photos lightened up significally when doing
indoor (no flash) shots using spot metering instead of
center-weighted or matrix metering. I get results that are very
similar to what your Olympus does.

Hope this helps
Christian

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Which of two images is closer to what the scene actually was to the eye?

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Iliah Borg said:

Which of two images is closer to what the scene actually was to the
eye?

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Nikon exposure metering and WB are targeted to preserve atmosphere. But they can be tricked, of course.
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Iliah Borg said:

Nikon exposure metering and WB are targeted to preserve atmosphere.
But they can be tricked, of course.
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