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I'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
I found that uses a cleaning cloth designed for camera lenses orps any tips for cleaning the LCD which despite my best efforts has
acquired a few smudges?
glasses works best. Just be careful not to press too hard.
Chris
I'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
Hey George, sorry to misslead you. I have only read about the case but am in the process of ordering one. Everything I have read has been very good about the case. One thing though, you will not be able to close the case if you use the adapter for the lense. I do not, therefore I will get the case.....G1, No One Does It Better!!!!!!!!Jimmy i have just bought the g1 and am trying to find the hard case to which you referred. Please tell me where you got the case. Thanks
Both are great cameras however when you add up the swivel lcd andI'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
compact flash plus microdrive and extemely long battery
life....plus a camera case lets you use a regular neck strap and
protects the camera I own and do prefer the Canon G1. I am
extremely pleased with this camera. I also own a 2500L and have
owned a 3030 so I am not brand loyal. I believe the Canon G1 is the
best sub $1K camera out there today!!!!!
Hope I helped,
JImmy
Hey George, sorry to misslead you. I have only read about the caseJimmy i have just bought the g1 and am trying to find the hard case to which you referred. Please tell me where you got the case. Thanks
but am in the process of ordering one. Everything I have read has
been very good about the case. One thing though, you will not be
able to close the case if you use the adapter for the lense. I do
not, therefore I will get the case.....G1, No One Does It
Better!!!!!!!!
Jimmy
Both are great cameras however when you add up the swivel lcd andI'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
compact flash plus microdrive and extemely long battery
life....plus a camera case lets you use a regular neck strap and
protects the camera I own and do prefer the Canon G1. I am
extremely pleased with this camera. I also own a 2500L and have
owned a 3030 so I am not brand loyal. I believe the Canon G1 is the
best sub $1K camera out there today!!!!!
Hope I helped,
JImmy
I don' t think you'll want to be using a notebook to manipulate any of your photos. Unfortunately LCD screens are the world's worst at establishing the right gamma, contrast, and color values. What you get to look good on your machine might well not print well or look good anywhere else. Though these screens, (I'm on a Powerbook right now.) are marvelously sharp with text, they distort and pixilate photographs and give you something quite different from what is really there. Use your desktop with its good quality monitor for image adjusting.Yes, it helps and hurts. I will be new to digital photography. I
have used a Canon AE-1 Program and used to have a darkroom, buy my
film in bulk and test it. Those days are long gone. My most recent
and disappointing camera is a Canon APS Elph. If I get a nice
snapshot, I can't do anything with it. I'd like a convenient camera
... digital ... that can grab those special moments with family,
handle informal posed portraits and be capable of going to ie
Alaska and capturing bear, moose, etc.
Any recommendations? I'm just learning thru these forums what CA
is, but I will be new to using my Dell notebook to manipulate
photos.
Thanks,
Linda
I own a G1, and my friend owns a 3030, so we decided to have our
own little shoot out. Here's what we found:
The 3030 exposes better than the G1. The G1 needs exposure
compensation often in order to take well exposed shots.
They both have chromatic aberrations; more obvious on the G1 but
mostly when shots are overexposed. Lowering exposure (or flash)
compensation makes the G1 about equal to the 3030.
The G1's photos have a subtle magenta cast and less contrast than
the 3030. Using Auto Levels (in Photoshop) is a quick way to
correct a G1 photo and make it look like a 3030 photo.
The G1 takes cleaner pictures with ISO 50. Shadow detail is
amazingly clean. G1 photos have less contrast which also helps
keep images clean. Haven't tried different contrast settings in
the G1.
The G1 brings out more fine detail than the 3030.
The 3030 is more consistent at getting good exposure with minimum
fuss.
The G1 requires more experience to get good shots.
The internal flash on the 3030 is superior to the internal G1
flash. The G1 with external flash (I have a 420ex) is superior to
the 3030 internal flash.
Don't bother asking for samples; we didn't save any of our
"experimental shots" cuz they sucked. Sorry.
Hope this helps.
I'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
Hey George, sorry to misslead you. I have only read about the caseJimmy i have just bought the g1 and am trying to find the hard case to which you referred. Please tell me where you got the case. Thanks
but am in the process of ordering one. Everything I have read has
been very good about the case. One thing though, you will not be
able to close the case if you use the adapter for the lense. I do
not, therefore I will get the case.....G1, No One Does It
Better!!!!!!!!
Jimmy
Both are great cameras however when you add up the swivel lcd andI'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
compact flash plus microdrive and extemely long battery
life....plus a camera case lets you use a regular neck strap and
protects the camera I own and do prefer the Canon G1. I am
extremely pleased with this camera. I also own a 2500L and have
owned a 3030 so I am not brand loyal. I believe the Canon G1 is the
best sub $1K camera out there today!!!!!
Hope I helped,
JImmy
I'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
- support for Canon E-TTL flashes (I bought a 380EX)
I own a G1, and my friend owns a 3030, so we decided to have our
own little shoot out. Here's what we found:
The 3030 exposes better than the G1. The G1 needs exposure
compensation often in order to take well exposed shots.
They both have chromatic aberrations; more obvious on the G1 but
mostly when shots are overexposed. Lowering exposure (or flash)
compensation makes the G1 about equal to the 3030.
The G1's photos have a subtle magenta cast and less contrast than
the 3030. Using Auto Levels (in Photoshop) is a quick way to
correct a G1 photo and make it look like a 3030 photo.
The G1 takes cleaner pictures with ISO 50. Shadow detail is
amazingly clean. G1 photos have less contrast which also helps
keep images clean. Haven't tried different contrast settings in
the G1.
The G1 brings out more fine detail than the 3030.
The 3030 is more consistent at getting good exposure with minimum
fuss.
The G1 requires more experience to get good shots.
The internal flash on the 3030 is superior to the internal G1
flash. The G1 with external flash (I have a 420ex) is superior to
the 3030 internal flash.
Don't bother asking for samples; we didn't save any of our
"experimental shots" cuz they sucked. Sorry.
Hope this helps.
I own a G1, and my friend owns a 3030, so we decided to have our
own little shoot out. Here's what we found:
The 3030 exposes better than the G1. The G1 needs exposure
compensation often in order to take well exposed shots.
They both have chromatic aberrations; more obvious on the G1 but
mostly when shots are overexposed. Lowering exposure (or flash)
compensation makes the G1 about equal to the 3030.
The G1's photos have a subtle magenta cast and less contrast than
the 3030. Using Auto Levels (in Photoshop) is a quick way to
correct a G1 photo and make it look like a 3030 photo.
The G1 takes cleaner pictures with ISO 50. Shadow detail is
amazingly clean. G1 photos have less contrast which also helps
keep images clean. Haven't tried different contrast settings in
the G1.
The G1 brings out more fine detail than the 3030.
The 3030 is more consistent at getting good exposure with minimum
fuss.
The G1 requires more experience to get good shots.
The internal flash on the 3030 is superior to the internal G1
flash. The G1 with external flash (I have a 420ex) is superior to
the 3030 internal flash.
Don't bother asking for samples; we didn't save any of our
"experimental shots" cuz they sucked. Sorry.
Hope this helps.
Wow, quite a bit of response here and I would have to concur with
all the info provided on-topic so far.
I would believe you can summarize the issues mentioned as follows;
The G-1 provides great potential in image quality and creativity,
provided you have the expertise, interest and/or patience to tweak
the camera settings and/or tweak the images in software regularly.
The Olympus camera's offer an off-the-shelf point-and-shoot almost
worry free ease of use to accomplish good well balanced and focused
images.
So really the decision here is not which camera, but what kind of
photographer you want to be. Do you want to take quick spontaneous
snaps? Or do you want to deliberately adjust things before and
after for every image that is important?
Personally I bought a G-1 cause I fancied myself as a amatuer
photgrapher with aspirations of something better someday. It may
have been a poor choice. I'm rarely satisfied with the first shot
and I am always forced to tweak the image in Software (when I'm
going to print it). I guess I'm a "grass is greener on the
otherside" kinda guy. But I have to say from my experience with my
friends Olympus cameras (360L, C-3030, E-10) they are all 99% worry
free.
And in my efforts to try to acheive this high level of worry free
use, I've spent almost as much in accessories as I have on the
camera.
420ex Flash
BP-511 (extra batt)
LA-DC58
TC-DC58
64MB CompactFlash
340MB MicroDrive
If you'll be taking a lot of photo's of the kids, you'll want to be
able to catch the moment quick. And when you're indoors and the
lighting isn't great, the Olympus built-in flash fills in much
better than the G-1. While my buddy just grabs his trusty 360L and
shoots, I grab my G-1 and 420ex (which makes me look like a
paparazi) carefully pick my settings and watch the moment pass. Or
I just hold the monstrosity in my lap powered up (or autosleep) and
try to carry on conversation like there's nothing to see.
So yes my next digital camera will probably be an Olympus. Sure
there may be more of a learning curve with the menu's and
navigation initially. But when you're shooting there's only one
button that you really need to concern yourself with.
In my opinion, one should not consider to buy a camera at this
price range if you don't intend to use an external flash. Internal
flash on any camera that I know of are simply not good enough for
most indoor/night situations. For outdoor only, a cheaper point
and shoot will do fine most of the time.
I just bought a G1 myself, and must say I'm have VERY MIXED emotion
about it -- nearly at the point of regret. The hotshoe, battery,
swivel LCD, fast focus, slide show, etc. the feature set so rich
it's hard to complaint. On the other hand, color balance is so
finicky that I'm about to be fed up with it. I tried a flash scene
in my house (20 ft ceiling w/ external bounce flash) over 200 times
and still could find a decent shot; with the same flash & technique
I could get perfect colors on Toshiba PDR-M70 nearly every time.
As I just discovered, shuter speed on G1 affect the color balance
of the flash shot tremendously - heavy yellow cast at 1/125 and
much better at 1/50. This is very weird, because at lower speed
the incandescent light should play a stronger role and make it
slightly more yellow at lower speed. It's like take the
convensional rule, reverse it and amplify by 10!!! And for some
strange reason I don't see this mentioned anywhere on the countless
reviews I read. On top of that, even on outdoor pictures color is
slightly off. Sigh.
With the G1 being touted as the best under $1,000 by most, I'm not
sure if it's a good time yet to get into digital. Though I like
color balance from Toshiba PDR-M70 I'm not keeping it either due to
focus problems, lost of details, short battery life, lack of hot
shoe (to use external flash you'll have to use one of those clunky
brackets).
I can't speak for the C3040, but if I were to buy one, I'd get it
where I can return just in case.
Wish I can have the perfect cam: G1 + Grip + M70 color balance &
histogram -- don't ask me to pay more though.
Hope this help. Michael.
I'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
I'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
I'm down to choosing between the G-1 and the Olympus C-3040.
both seem to have different attributes.
There aren't a lot of reviews on the G-1 out there yet.
CNET hasn't reviewed it yet, and I need some encouragement!
There are a lot of happy 3040 users.
I am concerned about the G-1's delay of 3 seconds? I want to take
pix of the grandkids, and want the ability of rapid shots.
Also, I have read some disappointment with the built in flash. I do
not want to have to put on an external flash.
The flip screen, long battery life and stronger memory card seem
positive.
the G-1 is not as comfortable to hold, nor does it have a neck strap.
The 3040 can take AA batteries, which might be a plus since you can
find them anywhere.
Advice please.
