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wgc said:

Manta Ray Arts said:

Bern/CLTHRS, James Russell, Mastrianni, even the harsh and blunt
but most often right J. Roberts. The forums seem less substantive,
the notable efforts of Derrell, Flick, Teski (emmeritus), Babe and
a few others notwithstanding.

Just a momentary lament.

Must be time for Grey Goose, up, two olives.

You can all go back to what you were doing. I feel better now.
Sorry for the interruption.

--
'Make great images with any camera and they will talk.' Melvin
Sokolsky

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It has turned into the:
when should I buy my d70 forum
when should I buy my d100 forum
Look at the pictures I get with my d1, d10, eos forum
See my mk11 is it not wonderfull forum
Every s2 is dying forum
You can buy an s2 for a dollar forum.
I am putting my s2 up on e-bay forum.
the s3 will never be good enough forum
My s2 died during a wedding forum.
My s2 is not focusing forum.
Gee isn't the d70 forum doing great forum. ( I thought this one was
very special)

my opinion It is now the lame duck forum?
Still read it but click on less and less every day.
Just Babe most of the time.

Still use my s2 every day it is doing great for what I need it for.

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Let the light in! Walt
[email protected]

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Manta Ray Arts said:

Bern/CLTHRS, James Russell, Mastrianni, even the harsh and blunt
but most often right J. Roberts. The forums seem less substantive,
the notable efforts of Derrell, Flick, Teski (emmeritus), Babe and
a few others notwithstanding.

Just a momentary lament.

Must be time for Grey Goose, up, two olives.

You can all go back to what you were doing. I feel better now.
Sorry for the interruption.

--
'Make great images with any camera and they will talk.' Melvin
Sokolsky

http://www.mantarayarts.com

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wing88 said:

what ?

a bunch of copied phrases .. sitting back and consuming ?
that makes fat ...

so what did you have to say .. sorry I may have missed it ..

why dont you go somewhere else then instead of
pulling out dead threads ...

c ya bi bi
gmd

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wgc said:

Ha, ha, ha, you are soo funny it was done in jest!

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Robert Whiteman said:

wgc said:

Ha, ha, ha, you are soo funny it was done in jest!

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..it's pretty much a list of the many reasons that THIS forum,
while slow for now, is where so many like to lurk. The variety of
posts and the fact that everyone is quite comfortable with sharing
their non-S2 experiences without fear of getting flamed or labeled
as a troll.

Fact is, many now have non-fuji 2nd cameras and for those of us
still in the valley of decision these posts are quite enlightening.
There are many of us holding out until the S3 is seen for what it's
going to be before making a decision and those other-brand
discussions will help when it's time to write the check.

Nice to get so much experience and information from one forum. I
appreciate every helpful contribution and read most of them when I
get the time.

Robert

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Babe said:

he was cruel. He may be good, he may be right but he didn't need
to cruel. His style was inconsiderate, intolerant, condescending
and downright obnoxious. He is one of those people who learned
the hard way (in his own words) and want to see others do it that
way too. Kind of payback time. He has been the only ONE person
on this entire forum to date that almost made me puke and give up
studio photography.

Bern, James Russell are folks who not only have knowledge, skills
and class but the compassion for the less 'endowed' photographers.

Big difference between being blunt and being very judgemental. The
guy may just have had about everything except class und
understanding. Pity.

babe

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I am havin' a good time, I'm having a ball, don't stop me
now.....yes I'm havin' a such good time, I don't wanna stop at all.

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wgc said:

OK, I give I will not try to joke again, I have offended soo many
people sorry? It was just a joke trying to lighten up an otherwise
serious thread.

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Rinus Borgsteede said:

... how many times do you want to repeat yourself to people that do
not do a search first and find out their questions are two years
old.
Even I started to post repeated answers for questions already asked
and answered. I always kept my answers in saved files. Most of the
critics/teachers/students are in this forum to learn from others
about their cameras and other accessories and how they work
together.
Teaching and participating in these forums is always an evolving
dynamic exercise that eventually comes to an end only to be started
again when the next model camera arrives on the camera store's
shelves.
With that comes new people hat share what they know and need to
know. I admit that some very fine people gave a lot of advise and
then disappeared. Like most teachers, they teach to learn what they
need to know and then they are onto the next thing.
Many people do not realize that they have a life to live and that
they are not being paid for any of this and that sitting at a
computer is not helping the family after they get home from their
work.
I was talking about those of us that are full time photographers.

Here's another scenario yet;
One store sells a camera for $3000.00 and the second sells the same
camera for $2000.00. The first store owner will spend hours to
teach you all he knows and the second owner takes your money and
tells you to go visit dpreview.
Something's wrong here.
I went from this forum to the Pro Digital Talk forum to help people
take pictures and also to learn from others in return. An exchange
that stimulates and where both profit the same. That forum is a
fair exchange for everyone as opposed to this forum where many have
bought their camera from the second retailer.
Most people are not so dark as the picture I paint but you tell me
how many ours of your professional life you will give to others for
free. Imagine that you are a plumber and you know all there is to
know about plumbing. People find out you know that much and they
really respect you and your opinions. Soon you will have many
friends and soon they think you should give them advise so you can
do the job yourself. You are now standing over your friends
advising but you no longer have time to do your own job. Worse,
you've trained them so well, they no longer need you. This is
hardly a worthwhile barter system.
This forum is great but I am after that Gray Goose with three (3)
olives and I do not want to talk shop after 5 PM anymore.
Rinus of Calgary

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S_Leeper said:

Rinus Borgsteede said:

... how many times do you want to repeat yourself to people that do
not do a search first and find out their questions are two years
old.
Even I started to post repeated answers for questions already asked
and answered. I always kept my answers in saved files. Most of the
critics/teachers/students are in this forum to learn from others
about their cameras and other accessories and how they work
together.
Teaching and participating in these forums is always an evolving
dynamic exercise that eventually comes to an end only to be started
again when the next model camera arrives on the camera store's
shelves.
With that comes new people hat share what they know and need to
know. I admit that some very fine people gave a lot of advise and
then disappeared. Like most teachers, they teach to learn what they
need to know and then they are onto the next thing.
Many people do not realize that they have a life to live and that
they are not being paid for any of this and that sitting at a
computer is not helping the family after they get home from their
work.
I was talking about those of us that are full time photographers.

Here's another scenario yet;
One store sells a camera for $3000.00 and the second sells the same
camera for $2000.00. The first store owner will spend hours to
teach you all he knows and the second owner takes your money and
tells you to go visit dpreview.
Something's wrong here.
I went from this forum to the Pro Digital Talk forum to help people
take pictures and also to learn from others in return. An exchange
that stimulates and where both profit the same. That forum is a
fair exchange for everyone as opposed to this forum where many have
bought their camera from the second retailer.
Most people are not so dark as the picture I paint but you tell me
how many ours of your professional life you will give to others for
free. Imagine that you are a plumber and you know all there is to
know about plumbing. People find out you know that much and they
really respect you and your opinions. Soon you will have many
friends and soon they think you should give them advise so you can
do the job yourself. You are now standing over your friends
advising but you no longer have time to do your own job. Worse,
you've trained them so well, they no longer need you. This is
hardly a worthwhile barter system.
This forum is great but I am after that Gray Goose with three (3)
olives and I do not want to talk shop after 5 PM anymore.
Rinus of Calgary

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As an ex-plumber I can assure you that no matter how well you teach
people about plumbing many (especially those that know the value of
the service) will still want to pay someone to do it. Same with
tax preparation... many will try to use your advise to do it
themselves... I have generally found that they were going to do it
themselves whether or not they got advise... indeed some after
hearing the complexities opted to pay.

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S_Leeper said:

re: the main thread... Just part of the evolutonary flow of the
communicative process. Lots of discussion for a new item, with a
new approach to a passionate subject, & many were going through the
learning curve at the same time. I believe many of the prior
participants have settled into a groove of how they prefer they
camera to be set & proceed to photographing accordingly.
A good thing & a bad thing. Good that we get what we want on a
more consistent basis. Bad that we aren't expoloring enough.

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I take lots of pictures.
Sometimes I even make a photograph.

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