Jim B (MSP)
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Mine will wait for "one or two", maybe a "few now and then". But if I am stopping a lot, varying the composition, angle, etc., I have to play catch up.
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Gayle159626
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My family doesn't wait at all. But I no longer care cos once I have my eye to the viewfinder, I don't notice anything aside from what I am looking at.
But seeing as I am the one carrying the money and/or car keys, they'll eventually find me ;-)
In actual fact, I prefer to go out on a photo shoot on my own or with another photographer. I'm acutely aware that non-photographers get bored very quickly, and although my family all have cameras of their own, they just take the occasional snap shot and are not as passionate about photography as I am.
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But seeing as I am the one carrying the money and/or car keys, they'll eventually find me ;-)
In actual fact, I prefer to go out on a photo shoot on my own or with another photographer. I'm acutely aware that non-photographers get bored very quickly, and although my family all have cameras of their own, they just take the occasional snap shot and are not as passionate about photography as I am.
Gayle
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Gayle159626
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But I'm sure it does. In my case, it almost definitely does.....I don't care for Photoshop composites and rarely vote for them. To me, they are "digital art" and have overstepped the boundaries of photography. But that's a personal opinion. It's also rare that I come across a mono image that I like......and that's very personal too. The more black and white photos I see, the more I appreciate colour.
Gayle
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this is the weirdest thing. I literally had to get it down to 263 x 166 at 75 p/ inch for it to get down and then when i saved it showed up in my files as only 30k. just pull it and I will figure this out tomorrow. sorry
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Neil Lawson
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I'm glad you like it, good to see you giving your new camera a good workout. However, Twighlight is over the 150kb limit, so is now in the pending gallery. Please resize and return before the lights go out.
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If I can let them keep walking I do. My kids, ages 5, 5, & 8, did a scathing, mocking of me, all in fun last week! It was too funny. It was totally photography oriented. My daughter topped it all off with a quip that went something like, "So if it's the best camera in the world, how come you have to spend so much time on the computer fixing the pictures?!!"!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!
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Paul Sumi
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Hi Gayle,
First off, I understand your opinion and agree mostly with it. I'm about an 85% purist. My rule of thumb is that if I can do it with a film camera and darkroom, I will do it in digital.
Example: if there is a piece of trash in my landscape, I'll clone it out but I won't remove a mountain or add in another tree.
What is your threshhold for "photoshopping?" My "Sky-Scraper" (which I assume won't get your vote LOL) was all shot in one photograph, not composited together.
The "photoshopping" involved desaturating the blue sky, except for the blue streak which was "masked" off. After that, minor curves adjustment and USM. No compositing, or adding in extra objects.
I've got another idea for one titled "Eye Catching" (from a comment by Melissa for one of Neil's entries). Now THAT one will definitely be "photoshopped." Hope you'll give a chuckle, even if not your vote
Best,
Paul
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First off, I understand your opinion and agree mostly with it. I'm about an 85% purist. My rule of thumb is that if I can do it with a film camera and darkroom, I will do it in digital.
Example: if there is a piece of trash in my landscape, I'll clone it out but I won't remove a mountain or add in another tree.
What is your threshhold for "photoshopping?" My "Sky-Scraper" (which I assume won't get your vote LOL) was all shot in one photograph, not composited together.
The "photoshopping" involved desaturating the blue sky, except for the blue streak which was "masked" off. After that, minor curves adjustment and USM. No compositing, or adding in extra objects.
I've got another idea for one titled "Eye Catching" (from a comment by Melissa for one of Neil's entries). Now THAT one will definitely be "photoshopped." Hope you'll give a chuckle, even if not your vote
Best,
Paul
--But I'm sure it does. In my case, it almost definitely does.....I
don't care for Photoshop composites and rarely vote for them. To
me, they are "digital art" and have overstepped the boundaries of
photography. But that's a personal opinion. It's also rare that I
come across a mono image that I like......and that's very personal
too. The more black and white photos I see, the more I appreciate
colour.
Gayle
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'We don't make a photograph with just a camera. We bring to the act
of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen,
the music we have heard and the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams
http://shot2shot.no-ip.com
Make photographs, not equipment lists!
Friends don't let friends pixelpeep
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Neil Lawson
Well-known member
Try getting two small boys to wait! My favourite photographic subjects are animals and nature in general. We go on bushwalks in the local area whenever we can (which isn't often enough), we hardly ever get close enough to any wildlife - our boys are very effective at making noise and then wonder why they don't see anything interesting.--
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Paul Sumi
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Leave it to a kid to cut to the heart of the matter! LOL
Paul
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Neil Lawson
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I don't think you should need to change the dimentions.
I loaded your photo into photoshop, and using "save as" from the file menu, reduced the quality setting to get the file size small enough. It came out to a setting of "5 - medium" to get it under 150k. (Usually somewhere between 5 and 8 will give good quality pics. on my monitor with nice small file sizes)
Presumably PS Elements has the same menu?
It seems your photos has lots of detail, so it is harder to compress the file.
I uploaded my version to the pending gallery to see what you think.
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Gayle159626
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Paul.....I'm not gonna tell ya what's gonna get my vote ;-)
In this challenge it may be different.......ideas, humour and execution might win out over excellent photography, but a combo of the lot will definitely get votes.
Seriously though......my "rules" are....you can take something out (clone, patch, heal etc) but you can't put something in that wasn't there in the first place. Anything that has been is quite obviously a Photoshop composite crosses the line for me. But then some are very, very good in their own right.
Other Photoshop enhancement such as levels, contrast adjustment, saturation, unsharp mask are very much a part of polishing the original to present the final product. Not changing, just enhancing what is already there. I happened to comment to a friend once that if I didn't see an improvement in a photo after 5 minutes in Photoshop, I ditched the attempt. His reply......"Goodness, I used to spend HOURS in the darkroom improving a photo....5 minutes is hardly enough!"
I don't like B&W photography...that's just a personal thing, but there are many who do. I have seen some superb mono photos but most of them just look like they were bad in colour so the photographer removed the colour in the hope it would improve the shot. It doesn't.
I simply love colour....rich, saturated vibrant colour. But that is me.
After spending Sunday on a photo shoot with a pro landscape photographer, my standards have been kicked up a notch....and hopefully it will transfer itself to my photography. My pro photographer friend kicked my butt for framing with intent to crop later, then explained why each pixel is important. I listened, and hopefully learned something!
Gayle
http://shot2shot.no-ip.com
In this challenge it may be different.......ideas, humour and execution might win out over excellent photography, but a combo of the lot will definitely get votes.
Seriously though......my "rules" are....you can take something out (clone, patch, heal etc) but you can't put something in that wasn't there in the first place. Anything that has been is quite obviously a Photoshop composite crosses the line for me. But then some are very, very good in their own right.
Other Photoshop enhancement such as levels, contrast adjustment, saturation, unsharp mask are very much a part of polishing the original to present the final product. Not changing, just enhancing what is already there. I happened to comment to a friend once that if I didn't see an improvement in a photo after 5 minutes in Photoshop, I ditched the attempt. His reply......"Goodness, I used to spend HOURS in the darkroom improving a photo....5 minutes is hardly enough!"
I don't like B&W photography...that's just a personal thing, but there are many who do. I have seen some superb mono photos but most of them just look like they were bad in colour so the photographer removed the colour in the hope it would improve the shot. It doesn't.
I simply love colour....rich, saturated vibrant colour. But that is me.
After spending Sunday on a photo shoot with a pro landscape photographer, my standards have been kicked up a notch....and hopefully it will transfer itself to my photography. My pro photographer friend kicked my butt for framing with intent to crop later, then explained why each pixel is important. I listened, and hopefully learned something!
Gayle
'We don't make a photograph with just a camera. We bring to the act of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen, the music we have heard and the people we have loved.' Ansel AdamsHi Gayle,
First off, I understand your opinion and agree mostly with it. I'm
about an 85% purist. My rule of thumb is that if I can do it with
a film camera and darkroom, I will do it in digital.
Example: if there is a piece of trash in my landscape, I'll clone
it out but I won't remove a mountain or add in another tree.
What is your threshhold for "photoshopping?" My "Sky-Scraper"
(which I assume won't get your vote LOL) was all shot in one
photograph, not composited together.
The "photoshopping" involved desaturating the blue sky, except for
the blue streak which was "masked" off. After that, minor curves
adjustment and USM. No compositing, or adding in extra objects.
I've got another idea for one titled "Eye Catching" (from a comment
by Melissa for one of Neil's entries). Now THAT one will
definitely be "photoshopped." Hope you'll give a chuckle, even if
not your vote
Best,
Paul
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http://shot2shot.no-ip.com
Paul Sumi
Senior Member
Lee,
I either work by myself or, occasionally, with another photographer or photographers. My last girlfriend (a non-photographer) would sometimes come with me.
My feeling is this: for non-photographers, accompanying a photographer working is about as exciting as watching water boil.
Paul
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I either work by myself or, occasionally, with another photographer or photographers. My last girlfriend (a non-photographer) would sometimes come with me.
My feeling is this: for non-photographers, accompanying a photographer working is about as exciting as watching water boil.
Paul
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Care to share with us some tips from your pro photographer.
Gayle159626
Senior Member
Two of my favourite locations are Tarra-Bulga and Morwell National Parks (I'm sure you're familiar with both). When Rick and I go on our own, we frequently see lyrebirds, echidnas, koalas, wallabies etc.....not always close enough to photograph though. When Miss Bry comes along, the closest we get to anything resembling wildlife is bones. She has a knack of scaring off everything within a 10km radius. My husband frequenly mutters "How can so much noise come of such a very small body?"
Gayle
'We don't make a photograph with just a camera. We bring to the act of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen, the music we have heard and the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams
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Gayle
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Gayle159626
Senior Member
Mostly we walked and talked in between taking photos. As we walked, he pointed out details in the surrounds that would make good shots....he forced me to see further and with a more discerning eye.
He told me to never crop in Photoshop.....use the viewfinder and the capabilities of the lens to frame correctly to avoid cropping later. Each little bit you crop out is detail.....and the more pixels, the more detail.
Use a tripod (I hated that bit!) to get level horizons and sharp detail.
Shoot in RAW format always (I hated that bit too, cos the files are so huge) cos you can retain more detail in post processing. His opinion is that shooting in JPEG is throwing away most of your pixels.
We did some long exposure water shots in near dark in a rainforest. I had never really tried that before, but I was amazed at how the camera soaks up colour and detail in the darkness. I have just ordered some ND filters so I can try the same thing in the daylight.
Just spending the day with him, talking, photographing the scenery together was a wonderful experience. This guys work is to die for....I aspire but will never reach his heights. And he shoots mostly film on a large format pano camera. For fun, he uses a Canon 1Ds. I got to try some of his fun toys....the 1Ds and L lenses. I was in heaven!
Anyway, photos from Sunday are on my website (marked "new"). We went to the beach, a fishing village, a wind farm and a rain forest. All within a short drive from where I live.
Gayle
'We don't make a photograph with just a camera. We bring to the act of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen, the music we have heard and the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams
http://shot2shot.no-ip.com
He told me to never crop in Photoshop.....use the viewfinder and the capabilities of the lens to frame correctly to avoid cropping later. Each little bit you crop out is detail.....and the more pixels, the more detail.
Use a tripod (I hated that bit!) to get level horizons and sharp detail.
Shoot in RAW format always (I hated that bit too, cos the files are so huge) cos you can retain more detail in post processing. His opinion is that shooting in JPEG is throwing away most of your pixels.
We did some long exposure water shots in near dark in a rainforest. I had never really tried that before, but I was amazed at how the camera soaks up colour and detail in the darkness. I have just ordered some ND filters so I can try the same thing in the daylight.
Just spending the day with him, talking, photographing the scenery together was a wonderful experience. This guys work is to die for....I aspire but will never reach his heights. And he shoots mostly film on a large format pano camera. For fun, he uses a Canon 1Ds. I got to try some of his fun toys....the 1Ds and L lenses. I was in heaven!
Anyway, photos from Sunday are on my website (marked "new"). We went to the beach, a fishing village, a wind farm and a rain forest. All within a short drive from where I live.
Gayle
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'We don't make a photograph with just a camera. We bring to the act of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen, the music we have heard and the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams
http://shot2shot.no-ip.com
Thank you for the tips.
You have a very nice gallary!
A suggestion: it will be more practical for the viewr if that section of your gallary is divided into pages. Loading 50-60 thumbnails takes sometime (imagine a person on a dial-up). Just a thought.
Thanks again for sharing
You have a very nice gallary!
A suggestion: it will be more practical for the viewr if that section of your gallary is divided into pages. Loading 50-60 thumbnails takes sometime (imagine a person on a dial-up). Just a thought.
Thanks again for sharing
Just spending the day with him, talking, photographing the scenery
together was a wonderful experience. This guys work is to die
for....I aspire but will never reach his heights. And he shoots
mostly film on a large format pano camera. For fun, he uses a Canon
1Ds. I got to try some of his fun toys....the 1Ds and L lenses. I
was in heaven!
Anyway, photos from Sunday are on my website (marked "new"). We
went to the beach, a fishing village, a wind farm and a rain
forest. All within a short drive from where I live.
Gayle
--
'We don't make a photograph with just a camera. We bring to the act
of photography all the books we have read, the movies we have seen,
the music we have heard and the people we have loved.' Ansel Adams
http://shot2shot.no-ip.com
I feel better now. My wife yesterday stopped me to point out a bird I could photograph. As I was getting my camera ready. My daughter goes "why are we stopping". I missed the shot.
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Paul,
I think you are right.
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