Nikon Firmware Hack

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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nanomatrix said:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-4214-4299

I dont' think their giving it away....

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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tonybat said:

nanomatrix said:

Ian Rees said:

It just seems to me that features like MLU or ISO 3200 would just
not be compiled into the binary. There wouldn't be anything in the
binary to "unlock." They had time to see what happened to the 300D.

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Tony220506 said:

And anyway, it would have taken a Nikon engineer no more than 10
minutes to include the D100 anti-shake MLU into the D70 firmware.
It was left out because it's the ONLY FEATURE that keeps the D100
from being 100% obsolete. It's price differentiation. Maybe it will
be included in a firmware update after the D100 ceases production.

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Tony220506 said:

AN INTERESTING PROJECT- -- would be to RE the firmware and write a
new, GNU fw from scratch.

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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http://oneko.livejournal.com

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Thom Hogan said:

Paul.R.Lindqvist said:

Offcourse Nikon dont put all the nifty features in their entrly
level dlsr.

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I've got news for you, the D70 won't be Nikon's entry-level DSLR
for long.

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nanomatrix said:

Hans Keesom said:

Murray McCulloch said:

Murray

Hans Keesom said:

I don't think Nikon has a problem in giving us these functions.
This I base on the fact they did not criple the D70 like Canon did
to the 300D

It is problably more whether it can done on the D70 hardware and
whether it will overcomplicate the camera for entry level users.
They could of course add this under the CSM detailed menu.

I think with the current D70 we have 99-100 % of what this baby can
do with whatever hack or firmware.

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Henrik Hedlund said:

Hans Keesom said:

Would be hard to organise. People will mail each other their version.

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10fps said:

please make MLU and TTL for SB24 please !

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Steffen Brueckner said:

Hi Guys,

take a look at the update packages and you will know everything you
need.
Let's put it simply, the D70 runs an REALOS/FR which means it uses
an Fujitsu FR30 type microprocessor (32-bit). Firmware B seems to
be the BIOS and operating system along with menus, etc. and
Firmware A "Q70_Main" seems to be sort of a "user" program that is
run after the initialization phase.

BTW: The D70 firmware looks for files named AD70????.BIN and
BD70????.BIN on drive A:, which is the compact flash card, for
firmware updates.

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Steffen Brueckner said:

steffen

tonybat said:

That's true nanomatrix!
If we just know what is the CPU and what kind of code, things will
get a lot faster!
I guess we shall open the D70 to read the info on the ICs on the
circuit board.

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tonybat said:

nanomatrix said:

http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_246.shtml

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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tonybat said:

nanomatrix said:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-4214-4299

I dont' think their giving it away....

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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nanomatrix said:

nanomatrix said:

take a look at the update packages and you will know everything you
need.
Let's put it simply, the D70 runs an REALOS/FR which means it uses
an Fujitsu FR30 type microprocessor (32-bit). Firmware B seems to
be the BIOS and operating system along with menus, etc. and
Firmware A "Q70_Main" seems to be sort of a "user" program that is
run after the initialization phase.

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Thom Hogan said:

nanomatrix said:

Thom Hogan said:

take a look at the update packages and you will know everything you
need.
Let's put it simply, the D70 runs an REALOS/FR which means it uses
an Fujitsu FR30 type microprocessor (32-bit). Firmware B seems to
be the BIOS and operating system along with menus, etc. and
Firmware A "Q70_Main" seems to be sort of a "user" program that is
run after the initialization phase.

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The FR30 manual is at
http://edevice.fujitsu.com/fj/MANUAL/MANUALp/en-pdf/CM71-10102-2E.pdf

A debugger that may support it is referenced at
http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2002-06/msg00403.html and
http://www.unaformec.org/doc/gdb/NEWS ; also see
http://www.oopo.net/consoledev/files/binutils-2.14-PS2-20040614.patch

If you're really into this and want a microcontroller out of the
camera you can work with =($715), see
http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?cPath=116&products_id=567

Generic info about REALOS/FR is at

http://www.fme.fujitsu.com/products/micro/32bit/realos_osek_vdx.html while the programming manual is at edevice.fujitsu.com/fj/MANUAL/ MANUALp/en-pdf/CM81-00316-1E.pdf

Not that I advocate hacking your D70 or anything like that, but I
would be interested in hearing about any such ventures.

--
Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide & Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guides to the Nikon D70, D100, D1 series, and
Fujifilm S2 Pro
http://www.bythom.com

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nanomatrix said:

An interesting sidebar to all of this... the Canon crowd has their
own forum for hacking the 300D on Yahoo...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canondigicamhacking/

Of course no one has started one for the D70... yet...

tonybat said:

nanomatrix said:

http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_246.shtml

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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tonybat said:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nikond70hak/

nanomatrix said:

An interesting sidebar to all of this... the Canon crowd has their
own forum for hacking the 300D on Yahoo...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canondigicamhacking/

Of course no one has started one for the D70... yet...

tonybat said:

nanomatrix said:

http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_246.shtml

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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nanomatrix said:

tonybat said:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nikond70hak/

nanomatrix said:

An interesting sidebar to all of this... the Canon crowd has their
own forum for hacking the 300D on Yahoo...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canondigicamhacking/

Of course no one has started one for the D70... yet...

tonybat said:

nanomatrix said:

http://www.e-fotografija.com/artman/publish/article_246.shtml

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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Frank C. said:

KiwiD70 said:

The Canon 300D guys have got all sorts of nice added features from
a firmware hack.

It seems to me MLU, multiple custom curves, and a closest
focussing setting using only the central sensor would be nice
additions to the D70. I for one would happily pay US$20 for such a
firmware hack,even if it only gave one of the above features.
Remembering of course that now we have a flashable firmware from
Nikon we coulld easily go back to stock.

Now, if 100 of us were willing to pay $20, we'd have enough to
commision the Russian 300D hacker to do a D70 hack and buy him a
D70 to do it with, as he'd need one for testing, and I believe he
only has a Canon.

Of course we might also lose our $20, but hey isn't life a gamble
anyway?

If enough are interested I'd be happy to try and get such a project
underway.

Now that would enable the forum members to really benefit the D70
community.

Before someone raises it I should note that the firmware download
from Nikon Asia does not require agreeing to any licence or
restriction on its use.

Thoughts??????

--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
I’m not sure about the universe — Albert Einstein

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