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I went back to the store I got my D70 Kit from today just to ask about a spot I saw in my photos in the same place. Like a dead pixel. It just looked like a red "+". Visible at 100% in photoshop when looking at the image. Not on the LCD.

My main reason for going back was some scratches I found on my Nikon 18-70mm AF-S DX F/3.5-4.5 lens. I only wanted to show them the photos on my laptop and ask what the problem was with that.

Anyway, this is when I saw a change in attitude from the owner. He just said he would ship the whole kit back to Nikon. I didn't mind the camera though, I could edit out that little spot in photoshop. I had just bought this 3 days ago, but lost the LCD cover when taking photos in the woods yesterday. When he didn't see the LCD cover in the box, he said they can't take it back.

I just asked about the lens, since that's what has damage. I put a filter on it as soon as I got the lens home, so it wasn't caused by me. The scratch is on the inside of the lens it seems too. But he just kept telling me "It's a kit". As in I can't return the lens separately.

The lens has it's own warranty card though. I should be able to send this back on it's own shouldn't I ?

Something just seemed suspicious to me just by how I was treated. I was very calm and nice to the people in the store. Wasn't demanding at all. I was just more curious about these things I came across yesterday with my camera.

Then I notice just now, that the Quick Charger has a sticker on the cord saying "US". When I looked at the bottom of the quick charger, it's not CSA approved. Just has the UL logo. So now I'm wondering what's going on here. Don't all electrical devices for sale in Canada have to be CSA approved?

I was just wondering if anyone in Canada that bought a D70 recently has a similar serial number as mine, since I'm wondering where this kit came from now. My serial starts with the number 5004XXX. I just don't know if this will help ease my mind.

I've called Nikon Canada to ask about this lens, but the person there was helping someone else, so I left a voice message.
 
In what store did you buy the camera?
pastlifer said:
I went back to the store I got my D70 Kit from today just to ask
about a spot I saw in my photos in the same place. Like a dead
pixel. It just looked like a red "+". Visible at 100% in
photoshop when looking at the image. Not on the LCD.

My main reason for going back was some scratches I found on my
Nikon 18-70mm AF-S DX F/3.5-4.5 lens. I only wanted to show them
the photos on my laptop and ask what the problem was with that.

Anyway, this is when I saw a change in attitude from the owner. He
just said he would ship the whole kit back to Nikon. I didn't mind
the camera though, I could edit out that little spot in photoshop.
I had just bought this 3 days ago, but lost the LCD cover when
taking photos in the woods yesterday. When he didn't see the LCD
cover in the box, he said they can't take it back.

I just asked about the lens, since that's what has damage. I put a
filter on it as soon as I got the lens home, so it wasn't caused by
me. The scratch is on the inside of the lens it seems too. But he
just kept telling me "It's a kit". As in I can't return the lens
separately.

The lens has it's own warranty card though. I should be able to
send this back on it's own shouldn't I ?

Something just seemed suspicious to me just by how I was treated.
I was very calm and nice to the people in the store. Wasn't
demanding at all. I was just more curious about these things I
came across yesterday with my camera.

Then I notice just now, that the Quick Charger has a sticker on the
cord saying "US". When I looked at the bottom of the quick
charger, it's not CSA approved. Just has the UL logo. So now I'm
wondering what's going on here. Don't all electrical devices for
sale in Canada have to be CSA approved?

I was just wondering if anyone in Canada that bought a D70 recently
has a similar serial number as mine, since I'm wondering where this
kit came from now. My serial starts with the number 5004XXX. I
just don't know if this will help ease my mind.

I've called Nikon Canada to ask about this lens, but the person
there was helping someone else, so I left a voice message.
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I only want to tell that to Nikon when they call me back for now. It was a local privately owned store here which is a registered Nikon dealer. I just don't want to get in trouble for saying what store it is right now. Hope you will understand.
mixtura said:
In what store did you buy the camera?
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Thank you Rick,

That's good to see then that our serials are close and in a similar format. I know they do them differently for the US I think. I was just worried this camera wasn't made for Canadian distribution. Do you know if your Quick Charger is CSA approved on the back?

I just have a very bad feeling about what happened in that shop today. Has me worried. I'll feel better once Nikon calls me back.

D.
Rick B said:
Sorry to hear about your troubles pastlifer.

My Canadaian serial number begins with 5006xxxx

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Thank you Jim,

I guess maybe just Nikon had a mix up when they boxed the D70 Kit. I noticed that the Nikon lenses in the US have a different box than canada. At least from a D70 community I made for people after I got my camera. If only I could figure out why I was treated the way I was today. I still should be able to return that lens on it's own without returning the whole kit. The lens has a separate warranty card. Just when I told them I couldn't find the LCD cover, it was like they just walked away from me saying there's nothing they could do. I didn't want to returnn the camera though, just the lens.

D.
Jim Fenton said:
If this was in fact a US slated d70, the serial number would have
begun with a 3.

Jim
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pastlifer said:
That's good to see then that our serials are close and in a similar
format. I know they do them differently for the US I think. I was
just worried this camera wasn't made for Canadian distribution. Do
you know if your Quick Charger is CSA approved on the back?

I just have a very bad feeling about what happened in that shop
today. Has me worried. I'll feel better once Nikon calls me back.
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In my case (in the US), the camera and the lens came in the same box. It seems perfectly logical to me that a retailer cannot return a product to the manufacturer for credit if it is not complete with all of the original accessories. If your lens came in a separate box, then I think he should have been able to take it back. Otherwise not. In any case, you should be able to get warranty service on the lens from Nikon.
 
Hmm.
camera and lens have separate warranties. 5 years for lens in canada.
As for the charger it is UL and CE approved and made in china I see on mine.

http://www.csa.ca/standards/electrical/Default.asp?language=English

CE also stands for Canadian Electrical (CE) code.
pastlifer said:
I went back to the store I got my D70 Kit from today just to ask
about a spot I saw in my photos in the same place. Like a dead
pixel. It just looked like a red "+". Visible at 100% in
photoshop when looking at the image. Not on the LCD.

My main reason for going back was some scratches I found on my
Nikon 18-70mm AF-S DX F/3.5-4.5 lens. I only wanted to show them
the photos on my laptop and ask what the problem was with that.

Anyway, this is when I saw a change in attitude from the owner. He
just said he would ship the whole kit back to Nikon. I didn't mind
the camera though, I could edit out that little spot in photoshop.
I had just bought this 3 days ago, but lost the LCD cover when
taking photos in the woods yesterday. When he didn't see the LCD
cover in the box, he said they can't take it back.

I just asked about the lens, since that's what has damage. I put a
filter on it as soon as I got the lens home, so it wasn't caused by
me. The scratch is on the inside of the lens it seems too. But he
just kept telling me "It's a kit". As in I can't return the lens
separately.

The lens has it's own warranty card though. I should be able to
send this back on it's own shouldn't I ?

Something just seemed suspicious to me just by how I was treated.
I was very calm and nice to the people in the store. Wasn't
demanding at all. I was just more curious about these things I
came across yesterday with my camera.

Then I notice just now, that the Quick Charger has a sticker on the
cord saying "US". When I looked at the bottom of the quick
charger, it's not CSA approved. Just has the UL logo. So now I'm
wondering what's going on here. Don't all electrical devices for
sale in Canada have to be CSA approved?

I was just wondering if anyone in Canada that bought a D70 recently
has a similar serial number as mine, since I'm wondering where this
kit came from now. My serial starts with the number 5004XXX. I
just don't know if this will help ease my mind.

I've called Nikon Canada to ask about this lens, but the person
there was helping someone else, so I left a voice message.
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Yes, I ordered a used lens from them online just the other day. Even when I order from vistek in toronto online. I've never been treated like this before. I just emailed Nikon Canada also, to try to get more info about this since they still haven't returned my call.
mixtura said:
I buy must stuff at Henrys. Their prices might be a bit high, but
I always get big discounts. On top of that, I have no problems
with returning things.
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Mine were in a big box together, but then in separate boxes.



you can see the big box there, then the separate ones for the lens and D70.

I've contacted Nikon again by email this time. So hopefully they will get back to me by phone or email in a few days.

D.
craigz said:
In my case (in the US), the camera and the lens came in the same
box. It seems perfectly logical to me that a retailer cannot return
a product to the manufacturer for credit if it is not complete with
all of the original accessories. If your lens came in a separate
box, then I think he should have been able to take it back.
Otherwise not. In any case, you should be able to get warranty
service on the lens from Nikon.
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Thank you for that. I didn't know about the CE code. It's a new one to me. Mine has that on it, so I guess there's no problem with the quick charger. I'm just so suspicious because of how I was treated today. It just didn't seem normal or called for. I guess it's why I'm acting a little paranoid.

D.
MaleManGuy said:
Hmm.
camera and lens have separate warranties. 5 years for lens in canada.
As for the charger it is UL and CE approved and made in china I see
on mine.

http://www.csa.ca/standards/electrical/Default.asp?language=English

CE also stands for Canadian Electrical (CE) code.
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You seem way to nice for your own good. Take the thing back and get a new one and move on. If the lcd cover is a big deal, then heck, give the store back the one off the new replacement unit. For that matter let them keep the unopened cables and accessories. Good grief.
pastlifer said:
D.
MaleManGuy said:
Hmm.
camera and lens have separate warranties. 5 years for lens in canada.
As for the charger it is UL and CE approved and made in china I see
on mine.

http://www.csa.ca/standards/electrical/Default.asp?language=English

CE also stands for Canadian Electrical (CE) code.
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I was about to write this exact same thing. You paid a LOT of money for this and you are not happy with the quality of the lens. It's a 3 day old camera! If they won't swap the LCD cover, I'd make tracks to find the original, get my money back and go somewhere else. I had a problem with my kit lens, had hairs in it and an obvious fingerprint on the inside of the lens and I went back to where I got it from. They gave me a replacement lens from another kit but said they could do this only because another kit was returned for body problems....I never asked why and they never told me.
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The owner just walked away from me.. All he would say is that it's a kit.. and couldn't take just the lens. Wasn't being nice at all. I just don't like it when people stop talking to you like a person and start talking to you like you're a corpse and don't look you in the eye. I'm just waiting to hear back from Nikon now. I'd rather deal with them directly.

I don't know why Nikon even put on those stupid LCD covers.. They're useless. Don't even stay on.

D.
Troy Williams said:
You seem way to nice for your own good. Take the thing back and
get a new one and move on. If the lcd cover is a big deal, then
heck, give the store back the one off the new replacement unit.
For that matter let them keep the unopened cables and accessories.
Good grief.
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Hello Peter,

I will let people know what Nikon tells me when I hear back from them. I just got a confirmation email from them saying they will get back to me in 24 hours. So I will wait for them.

I don't even know what that spot is on the camera. It's all I was talking to them for, to find out "What" it is.. I didn't want to return it. You can see it here:



It's like a + sign.. in red.. no idea what it is, but I can just edit the thing out it's so small. That wasn't my problem so much as the lens. I keep getting sold defective lenses here in town which in turn means I have a hard time selling them when I don't want them anymore. There's just so little respect here in this city for honesty.

They won't let me send in the camera too though since I lost the LCD cover.. It's just a cheap $11 part or something. I can understand that though. It's not like Nikon is going to put this back on the shelves though. It's going to need to be repackaged. I just don't understand the rude treatment I received today.

D.
peterbowers said:
hey D will you let us know how this all works out?...why not send
the camera in too if there is a spot on the CCD ?
Peter
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I don't have my charger with me so I cant say.

I think I can understand where the store is coming from. They can't treat the items seperately from a kit because the prices of the indiviuals does not equal the kit price.

You might have better luck dealing with Nikon Canada directly.

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Thank you Lisa,

Problem is, these things are next to impossibe to find here. Long waits for them, so it's not like they can just pull one off the shelf unfortunately. I did pay a lot too, and I've bought other cameras there.. spent thousands of dollars there. The largest part of my frustration is just from how I was treated today. I don't even care about the lens or camera so much. This was the last store in town I actually trusted. Now I'll just have to get everything online. I've never had problems with the places I've dealt with online here in Canada.
ci2i said:
I was about to write this exact same thing. You paid a LOT of
money for this and you are not happy with the quality of the lens.
It's a 3 day old camera! If they won't swap the LCD cover, I'd
make tracks to find the original, get my money back and go
somewhere else. I had a problem with my kit lens, had hairs in it
and an obvious fingerprint on the inside of the lens and I went
back to where I got it from. They gave me a replacement lens from
another kit but said they could do this only because another kit
was returned for body problems....I never asked why and they never
told me.
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Lisa
http://www.pbase.com/sunny713
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