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1DMKII: the Japanese r sticking it to us!

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Oh yes, More soccer moms buy Suvs than few people who really go off road, lot more moms. I think lot more people like me who buy MKII than pros. I don't have statistic but it is just a hunch. I would like to know the real number if any one had it. But about the Suvs, I am sure.
Teski said:
Teski
baruth said:
Teski said:
Teski
baruth said:
Teski said:
Teski
baruth said:
There is a long thread about the MKII buttons, that require 10
fingers to push at the same time to operate. It is so highly
controversial. TWo camps : red and blue. one critique the other
worship whatever in this machine.
I want to reboot and brainstorm in different but more fundamental
aspect of the construction of this remarkable camera.
Why did Canon build MKII the way they did. They can do it so easy
to operate as Toyata build Lexus. Sophisticated, powerful and yet
so smooth and one can drive it while sleeping and still arrive
safely home.
But the Japanese have competition as far as cars are concerned: the
Germans. So they have to do what we Americans like: soothing
smoothness. Not so with Cameras.
Here in the world of photography, the Kingdom of the Sun, that is.
The Japanese totally dominate the market. The Americans own the
Golden Arches of MCDonald. They push grease and fries down people's
throat around the world. The weird thing is; Around the world
people love American for this "healthy food."
Now the Japanese are sticking it to us. They love things the hard
way. It is the pain just to see them using all the energy to speak.
They said: you want our cameras? you operate the hard way we love:
use all your ten fingers and maybe you teeth . You have no choice.
And they are right, we have no choice. Some of us already are
assimilated to the Japanese culture: they love all the buttons of
MKII and want even more.
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http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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Hawai is right in the middle between US and Japan and the Japanese own most of it real estate any way , so the US hasn't won the Sumo, just KFC:))i
Franklin said:
baruth said:
Franklin said:
baruth said:
There is a long thread about the MKII buttons, that require 10
fingers to push at the same time to operate. It is so highly
controversial. TWo camps : red and blue. one critique the other
worship whatever in this machine.
I want to reboot and brainstorm in different but more fundamental
aspect of the construction of this remarkable camera.
Why did Canon build MKII the way they did. They can do it so easy
to operate as Toyata build Lexus. Sophisticated, powerful and yet
so smooth and one can drive it while sleeping and still arrive
safely home.
But the Japanese have competition as far as cars are concerned: the
Germans. So they have to do what we Americans like: soothing
smoothness. Not so with Cameras.
Here in the world of photography, the Kingdom of the Sun, that is.
The Japanese totally dominate the market. The Americans own the
Golden Arches of MCDonald. They push grease and fries down people's
throat around the world. The weird thing is; Around the world
people love American for this "healthy food."
Now the Japanese are sticking it to us. They love things the hard
way. It is the pain just to see them using all the energy to speak.
They said: you want our cameras? you operate the hard way we love:
use all your ten fingers and maybe you teeth . You have no choice.
And they are right, we have no choice. Some of us already are
assimilated to the Japanese culture: they love all the buttons of
MKII and want even more.
--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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http://www.pbase.com/franklin
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http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
 
Tell ya what, Bob.

If the Americans and Japanese are that bad, why don't ya head back to your native country and see how many expensive digital cameras you can afford practicing there?
 
Please, don't be that serious. Life is serious enough without us going after one another. I could tell you the same thing: "go back" unless you are a native iAmerican indian. then you may the right to say that to me and to most people around here. It wouldn't be right, is it?

We just want to have some little photographic fun, You really think I am serious about the big Mac, KFC and the "Japanese sticking it to us."

My friend, I just want some laugh. Most people here are laughing. Why don't you with us.

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http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
 
Some are taking it hard about my thread. No, I am not serious about the comparison. If some one doesn't find it funny, so bad. But than we don't really need any real bad blood around here. "can we get along?" Any bad remark is uncalled for.
baruth said:
There is a long thread about the MKII buttons, that require 10
fingers to push at the same time to operate. It is so highly
controversial. TWo camps : red and blue. one critique the other
worship whatever in this machine.
I want to reboot and brainstorm in different but more fundamental
aspect of the construction of this remarkable camera.
Why did Canon build MKII the way they did. They can do it so easy
to operate as Toyata build Lexus. Sophisticated, powerful and yet
so smooth and one can drive it while sleeping and still arrive
safely home.
But the Japanese have competition as far as cars are concerned: the
Germans. So they have to do what we Americans like: soothing
smoothness. Not so with Cameras.
Here in the world of photography, the Kingdom of the Sun, that is.
The Japanese totally dominate the market. The Americans own the
Golden Arches of MCDonald. They push grease and fries down people's
throat around the world. The weird thing is; Around the world
people love American for this "healthy food."
Now the Japanese are sticking it to us. They love things the hard
way. It is the pain just to see them using all the energy to speak.
They said: you want our cameras? you operate the hard way we love:
use all your ten fingers and maybe you teeth . You have no choice.
And they are right, we have no choice. Some of us already are
assimilated to the Japanese culture: they love all the buttons of
MKII and want even more.
--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
 
They are trying to tell us that they can get back on us with their hard-to-operate electronics. Very smart way to solve international problem. I wish G. W. can learn some from them. LOL.
baruth said:
Franklin said:
baruth said:
Franklin said:
baruth said:
There is a long thread about the MKII buttons, that require 10
fingers to push at the same time to operate. It is so highly
controversial. TWo camps : red and blue. one critique the other
worship whatever in this machine.
I want to reboot and brainstorm in different but more fundamental
aspect of the construction of this remarkable camera.
Why did Canon build MKII the way they did. They can do it so easy
to operate as Toyata build Lexus. Sophisticated, powerful and yet
so smooth and one can drive it while sleeping and still arrive
safely home.
But the Japanese have competition as far as cars are concerned: the
Germans. So they have to do what we Americans like: soothing
smoothness. Not so with Cameras.
Here in the world of photography, the Kingdom of the Sun, that is.
The Japanese totally dominate the market. The Americans own the
Golden Arches of MCDonald. They push grease and fries down people's
throat around the world. The weird thing is; Around the world
people love American for this "healthy food."
Now the Japanese are sticking it to us. They love things the hard
way. It is the pain just to see them using all the energy to speak.
They said: you want our cameras? you operate the hard way we love:
use all your ten fingers and maybe you teeth . You have no choice.
And they are right, we have no choice. Some of us already are
assimilated to the Japanese culture: they love all the buttons of
MKII and want even more.
--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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--
http://www.pbase.com/franklin
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--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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--
http://www.pbase.com/franklin
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--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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http://www.pbase.com/franklin
 
when you can't hear the person's tone of voice or watch their body language, it is sometimes very hard to see that a statement is meant to be taken lightly, or that it is just an attempt at some humor. i've been tricked by this many times, even answering in anger to someone who was just being ironic with no malicious intent.

i always look at my posts in "preview" to look again and try to avoid misunderstandings.

of course some people don't get a joke at all. you can't please everyone.
 
baruth said:
Some are taking it hard about my thread. No, I am not serious about
the comparison. If some one doesn't find it funny, so bad. But than
we don't really need any real bad blood around here. "can we get
along?" Any bad remark is uncalled for.
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But don't you think your remarks in and of themselves are bad remarks? Covering them under the blanket of "humor" doesn't make it any less so.

To be honest, I'm not Japanese, but am Asian and when i read it... unfortunately it comes across as ignorant and borderline racist.

Regards...
baruth said:
baruth said:
There is a long thread about the MKII buttons, that require 10
fingers to push at the same time to operate. It is so highly
controversial. TWo camps : red and blue. one critique the other
worship whatever in this machine.
I want to reboot and brainstorm in different but more fundamental
aspect of the construction of this remarkable camera.
Why did Canon build MKII the way they did. They can do it so easy
to operate as Toyata build Lexus. Sophisticated, powerful and yet
so smooth and one can drive it while sleeping and still arrive
safely home.
But the Japanese have competition as far as cars are concerned: the
Germans. So they have to do what we Americans like: soothing
smoothness. Not so with Cameras.
Here in the world of photography, the Kingdom of the Sun, that is.
The Japanese totally dominate the market. The Americans own the
Golden Arches of MCDonald. They push grease and fries down people's
throat around the world. The weird thing is; Around the world
people love American for this "healthy food."
Now the Japanese are sticking it to us. They love things the hard
way. It is the pain just to see them using all the energy to speak.
They said: you want our cameras? you operate the hard way we love:
use all your ten fingers and maybe you teeth . You have no choice.
And they are right, we have no choice. Some of us already are
assimilated to the Japanese culture: they love all the buttons of
MKII and want even more.
--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
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T3 said:
In think they just needed to consider familiarity to existing
1-series users versus starting with something new. This time, they
stuck with familiarity. Next time, they'll probably start with a
fresh re-design. That's all. It's not some crazy conspiracy.
They just decided to stick to the current interface for one more
generation.
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I'm betting 1Ds Mk II will be identical too. But have a look at old 1 series, they don't seem to have changed much at all over the last 15 years.
 
smoody said:
Why are TVs so easy to use? Japanese companies own that market for
all practical purposes. And while we're at it...Why is the 10D so
easy to use? I'll answer that one...because it is for a different
market segment than the 1DMk2 and takes different needs into
account. When the next 10D comes out and it blows away the
competion, do you think they'll make it harder to use than the
current 10D just because they'll have a leg-up? Fat chance.
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It's a deliberate act of professional snobbery and I'm all for it. I don't want any dropkick being able to say he owns a Mk II and knows how to use it. In fact why do they even ship it with software and a manual. All pros should be able to work this thing out in a few months (are you dedicated or not) as well as write their own RAW converters on the back of one of their lovely 13x19 prints.

In fact this camera should have an easter egg and until you can find it you can't take a picture!

Real men require a real camera.
 
I have been living here most of my life, so I know this type of personality. We are a nation of immigrants. I could always turn it around and tell that person the very same thing I was told. But you know just one person can spoil the whole party. the hatred is hard to combat. To hate them in return is to hurt oneself. Pity to those who hate and try way to put other down.
tom e said:
when you can't hear the person's tone of voice or watch their body
language, it is sometimes very hard to see that a statement is
meant to be taken lightly, or that it is just an attempt at some
humor. i've been tricked by this many times, even answering in
anger to someone who was just being ironic with no malicious intent.

i always look at my posts in "preview" to look again and try to
avoid misunderstandings.

of course some people don't get a joke at all. you can't please
everyone.
Click to expand...
--
http://www.lightmagical.fotopic.net/
Winds my breaths, Sun my eyes, Sky my open mind.
Baruth
 
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