Nikon keeps letting me down.

No, I'm not being irrational, I'm pointing to your behaviour on this thread (which you keep denying). Of course, now you're being all nice and "don't attack me" like. I've read your other replies too, and you keep cotradicting yourself and lashing out at others.

Have a look through your posts in this thread and tell me if you think you're sticking to the issues, and that you're not attacking anyone or being sarcastic...

Please tell me where I have attacked you. I pointed out how you came across, then when you felt attacked, I tried to explain how this tone came around in this thread, again you see nothing but attacks. I'm sorry, I can't help you... Your mind is locked.

Thomas.
It doens't hurt my feelings and I'm not sobbing as you say. You
are just being irrational. You are doing the same exact thing that
you are complaining about. You are attacking me instead of
sticking to the issues.
 
what kind of lens is your 85mm and can I have it?
 
Seems to me ur taking it personally, i where merely asking a few questions.

I didnt claim Nikon is perfect. Next time u might wanna answer the questions.

I wish a good day (at least try in ur miserable world) lol

Best
--
Regards
Paul L.

 
...when I deal with people that aren't rational and can't seem to think straight because they get so emotional.

Please answer the questions.

I find it difficult to have a serious tone with someone such as you. You aren't interested in being objective. You seem to be interested in attacking the messenger, rather than disputing or agreeing with the facts. That usually tells a person that you really don't have an objective viewpoint and that this is an emotional subject for you, not a rational one.

Please answer the questions.

Please explain why I am wrong in complaining about Nikon service when I have been treated poorly. Also, please explain why you believe I am incorrect in saying that Nikon quality isn't as high as it used to be.
 
....questions other than rhetorical comments from you trying to be a smart aleck. Could you please ask your questions again and I will answer them for you? Maybe I misunderstood. I'll give you the benfit of the doubt. However, could you please ask the questions clearly, without rhetoric? thanks
 
...when I deal with people that aren't rational and can't seem to
think straight because they get so emotional.
A good self description.
Please answer the questions.
What questions?!? What are you talking about? Are you confused? You never asked me any questions! On the contrary I asked YOU some questions, but never got an answer... But as always with you in this thread, you preach one thing, and do the opposite...
I find it difficult to have a serious tone with someone such as
you. You aren't interested in being objective. You seem to be
interested in attacking the messenger, rather than disputing or
agreeing with the facts. That usually tells a person that you
really don't have an objective viewpoint and that this is an
emotional subject for you, not a rational one.

Please answer the questions.
Please see my reply above.
Please explain why I am wrong in complaining about Nikon service
when I have been treated poorly. Also, please explain why you
believe I am incorrect in saying that Nikon quality isn't as high
as it used to be.
Now you're being paranoidly defensive again, because I NEVER said you were wrong in complaining about being treated badly. If you had in fact READ my posts, you would see I actually SUPPORTED you in being upset when treated poorly.

On the second question: your opinion that Nikon's quality isn't as high as it used to be is highly subjective, as you seem to base it on your personal experience only, so it's impossible to say if your correct or not.

Now, please read my post before answering to them. Your projecting onto others of your own ways of reacting are pretty disturbing.

Thomas.
 
Man, your upset. I be fired up to if I couldn't get any help from Nikon. After reading all this, now I'm glad I paid 150 bucks at bestbuy for a 4 year extended warranty on my D70. That way, they can deal with Nikon and not me.

Sorry your disappointed. Hopefully, I won't end up that way.

Mark
I've used Nikon camera's for the last 24 years.

I have owned or currently own the following:
Nikon F w/ motor
Nikon FA w/ motor
Nikon F3 w/ motor
Nikon FG w/ motor
Nikon EM w/ motor
2 D70s
SB-16
SB-E
55mm Macro
70-210mm
300mm
18-35mm
28-70mm
35-70
teleconverters
50mm
70-300 G and ED
18-70mm
28mm
35mm
85mm

One thing I've learned; the older the Nikon gear, the better the
quality.

NEEDLESS TO SAY, I"VE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF $$$ WITH NIKON.

It used to be that Nikon were so far superior to Canon, Minolta,
etc in system and design, that Nikon really were the only way to
go.

However, I have the strongest urge today to sell everything and buy
a different brand.

My dealings with Nikon lately have been absolutely horrible. I
have needed to call tech support regarding issues with software,
cameras, and lenses. Telephone hold times have been over 30
minutes. In every case the tech support representative was
clueless and of zero help. I knew more about the product than the
Nikon tech rep in EVERY case. Each of the issues were related to
flaws in their products.

Secondly, I needed to send a lens in for repair. The service
person was unable to answer my questions at all, saying she just
was there to answer phones and had no technical knowledge.
However, she did promise that the repair process would take 7-10
days from the time they received the camera.

Sixteen day after they received teh package, I finally received a
letter from Nikon showing the wrong lens model and claiming a
repair price as expensive as the lens. If I declined the repair,
it would be ten days before they even sent the lens back to me!. I
called and the person in service was absolutely of no value in the
matter. This was after waiting on hold for 40 minutes. This meant
a promised repair of 7-10 days would actually take over a month.

My emails to Nikon are ALWAYS met with generic responses of no
value. The inaccuracy of the information they provide through tech
support a great deal of the time shows that their representatives
are not adequately trained.

Furthermore, they are delivering products to market with
significant flaws....something that didn't happen when Nikon was so
superior to the others. Now, Nikon is starting to become "just
another manufacturer". Cameras with focus issues, VR lenses with
malaligned elements, software glitches, focus errors in lenses...
the list is endless.

Nikon's customer service is so poor that they act as if they are
doing you a favor by "letting" you buy their products.

I'm extremely let down by this company. The simple fact is that
another big manufacturer is making products every bit as good, with
a very extensive sysytem offering, where warranties are offered
world wide, as well.

Please don't post a defense stating that this is a sign of the
times, or is Nikon's way of lowering costs etc. We know all that.
The problem is Nikon's management style and the way that they now
run their company. It is no longer a "quality above all else" firm.

Keep your eye on eBay, because I may be having a fire sale soon!
--



Hi!
 
I'm not upset at all...not even in the slightest. I really enjoy thowing out a tidbit and watching heated debate. Every time someone responds, the post goes back up to the top, where eveyone sees it. I especially enjoy the fact that this is getting to Nikon and dealers and reps.

This is working exactly the way it should. This is exactly what I expected. This is one of the best attributes of a free market.

Thanks for the response.
 
Please answer the questions Thomas. Show us that you are a thinker.
Oh, the irony :-)
Your response shows that you are jumping to conclusions and
interjecting your subjective opinions based on a limited knowledge of
fact.
To this I responded: "Take a look in the mirror". Didn't you get it? Do I have to spell it out for you? YOU are 'jumping to conclusions and interjecting your subjective opinions based on a limited knowledge of fact' in your entire line of arguing in the first posting.

AND in my first reply to this thread I SUPPORTED you in being upset when treated badly by customer service, you ignored that, as you were probably too busy lashing out at those who were of a different opinion.

Can you really not see that you are acting emotionally on YOUR subjective experience with Nikon lately? You might be right in your judgement, but you HAVE TO see that some bad experiences for you and a couple of others are NOT statistically significant for proving quality went down.

AGAIN to spell it out to you, I understand you're upset, and I agree with you that if Nikon is slacking on product quality and/or customer service quality, they need to get their act together to stay competitive. If you had kept your tone a bit more civil in the beginning, this thread would've developed differently. But for all I know, this is exactly the way you wanted it to be...

Don't get all emotional about it. And please read this whole post before answering. Thanks.

Thomas.
 
:-)

Well my question was:
What did u expect to gain when u posted this thread in the Nikon D70 forum ?

if u cant tolerate other peoples point of view, why bring up the debate ?

Best
--
Regards
Paul L.

 
Travis, sorry to see the hostile responses you are getting to a reasonable first post, but I think you are inviting more of them with your subsequent, and sometimes amusing posts.

I really do think the camera industry has got sucked into the digital era and will be like a computer business until the technology stabilises (as good enough) in a decade or two. Some formerly good companies will go bust/get absorbed. It's a shame for someone who wants to invest in good lenses and quality products.

If you think Nikon support is bad, you should try dealing with Sony.

--len
 

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