Notebook Advice please

Thanks for the response.

I think I've heard that the P4 will do better with background work
like converting RAW in the background. Not sure how well the M does
with stuff like this.
Yes, someone disagreed with me that the M series is actualy more powerful or equal but you can't look at cycle numbers alone since the pipelining and instruction sets are very difference in both (hence the lower power consumption). Depending on tha task at hand they will benchmark differently. Same goes with say a AMD and Intel cpu will process the work load differently, one is better at a different task.
I agree that desktops are the way to go if you can, but I do some
presentations a couple of times a month and could use a laptop for
those times.

As for price, I get what I mentioned, with a CDRW drive, a 3 year
warranty, all for $2000 US, or $2700 Canadian. They are offering a
512mb to 1 GB of memory upgrade for free, as well as $10 shipping.
I think it's a pretty good deal.
No way.. yer kidding.. you'd blink if you knew what I paid for my Tosh.. but then again that was a few years ago and I've taken that work horse to the Gulf and other interesting places since =)
A reason why I'm willing to invest in this now is beacause of my
current requirements. This should last me 3 years at least. I
usually upgrade when I can get a system 3Xs as fast. Well, my old
system was a P3 900, 384mb of ram, 32mb graphics card... : )
You might want to look at the Alien Ware laptops as they have an interesting upgrade modular setup where it's one of the few companies that you can upgrade by changing the video and cpu modules over the time.. it's costlier I am sure but don't know by how much. Worth a look..
I still cringe when looking at desktop pricing, but I think this
will be a good enough replacement for the next 3 years. It should
make my current programs fly, and I won't be upgrading my Photoshop
anytime soon.
A desk top with the specs you're looking at could easily be gotten for under $1000 with monitor.. of course a lot of this depends on what kind of monitor you're willing to spend on etc.. but to get a 3.2G HT cpu and 1G DDR mem, toss in a decent vid card (9700 pro is tons what ya need for this kind of stuff.. and still give you lot's of head space for expansion and upgrade..

if you gots the coins to spend, "Go big or Stay Home".. =)

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Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.
If you're going to do a lot of RAW conversions, horsepower counts, a lot. You might consider something faster. There are several Athlon 64 laptops available. To see what I mean about speed, check this link: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1537028,00.asp

Also, I find that a fast (7200rpm, 8mb cache) external firewire or USB 2 drive to be faster than the internal laptop drives, besides offering more space. Before client meetings, I just transfer the photos they will be viewing to the internal drive.

Also, I've found the built-in media card slot to be far faster than even a USB 2 card reader, so you may want to look for that feature.

I ended up with the Emachines M6807 to use as a portable desktop replacement, and have been saving lots of time ever since :)

Lisa
 
CS works fine with 256MB of RAM? Why do I always crash when
performing an action? PFN_LIST_CORRUPT, IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL etc.
Sounds more like a driver conflict than a memory issue. If you have, or can borrow, a 2.5" HD (i.e. laptop-sized), you can slide your old drive out and experiment with the new drive without corrupting your existing installation. Re-install WinXP on the new, freshly-formatted drive. As soon as the WinXP install completes, run Windows Update and get AT LEAST SP1 (Service Pack 1) installed, or USB devices may not work correctly. Next immediately download any and all drivers you can find from the manufacturer --- you almost always have to add these extra drivers to get your notebook working correctly. Don't miss anything - video drivers, sound drivers, usb drivers, etc.

At that point you should have a clean, working installation of WinXP on this new hard drive. Run some benchmarks (SiSoft Sandra, Mad Onion's PCMark or 3DMark, etc.) to verify the system is stable. Now install CS or any other apps giving you heartburn. Chances are good they'll be working well.

Now you'll have a decision to make. If you're feeling brave, you'll copy all the personal data/files/info off of your old drive to a safe place (directory on your desktop machine, CD/DVD backup, whatever), re-format the old drive, repeat the installation you just did on the borrowed HD, then re-install all your other apps. If you're not feeling brave, you'll continue to live with the conflicts or just buy a new machine.

Be brave :)

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One of the reasons why I decided I needed to upgrade was performance of CS. The filebrowser alone is hog slow, at least on my P3 900, 384mb system. I'll probably get 1gb of RAM for headroom foir the next few versions of PS.

Brian
CS works fine with 256MB of RAM? Why do I always crash when
performing an action? PFN_LIST_CORRUPT, IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL etc.
Sounds more like a driver conflict than a memory issue. If you
have, or can borrow, a 2.5" HD (i.e. laptop-sized), you can slide
your old drive out and experiment with the new drive without
corrupting your existing installation. Re-install WinXP on the new,
freshly-formatted drive. As soon as the WinXP install completes,
run Windows Update and get AT LEAST SP1 (Service Pack 1) installed,
or USB devices may not work correctly. Next immediately download
any and all drivers you can find from the manufacturer --- you
almost always have to add these extra drivers to get your
notebook working correctly. Don't miss anything - video drivers,
sound drivers, usb drivers, etc.

At that point you should have a clean, working installation of
WinXP on this new hard drive. Run some benchmarks (SiSoft Sandra,
Mad Onion's PCMark or 3DMark, etc.) to verify the system is stable.
Now install CS or any other apps giving you heartburn. Chances are
good they'll be working well.

Now you'll have a decision to make. If you're feeling brave,
you'll copy all the personal data/files/info off of your old drive
to a safe place (directory on your desktop machine, CD/DVD backup,
whatever), re-format the old drive, repeat the installation you
just did on the borrowed HD, then re-install all your other apps.
If you're not feeling brave, you'll continue to live with the
conflicts or just buy a new machine.

Be brave :)

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Looks like a sweet setup. Especially the 17 incher.: )

Brian
Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.

Thanks

Brian

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Thanks Lisa. How stable has your experience been with that kind of processor and setup?

Brian
Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.
If you're going to do a lot of RAW conversions, horsepower counts,
a lot. You might consider something faster. There are several
Athlon 64 laptops available. To see what I mean about speed, check
this link: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1537028,00.asp

Also, I find that a fast (7200rpm, 8mb cache) external firewire or
USB 2 drive to be faster than the internal laptop drives, besides
offering more space. Before client meetings, I just transfer the
photos they will be viewing to the internal drive.

Also, I've found the built-in media card slot to be far faster than
even a USB 2 card reader, so you may want to look for that feature.

I ended up with the Emachines M6807 to use as a portable desktop
replacement, and have been saving lots of time ever since :)

Lisa
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Have you considered a more practical approach? You want a powerful workhorse for processing your images and you want to be able to show your clients what you are up to on site. Why not get a really powerful desktop to do all the work and hold onto your current laptop for presentation work, the specs sound more than enough to use as a demonstration system, probably even overspecced for that.
It's a hard balance for me right now. I'veput off getting a
notebook for years because they never seem to match what I need for
graphics capabilities. The've always had this integrated video
card, poor cache, and so on. It seems like notebooks are getting
better in these regards.

Generally as well, I wait until I can afford a system that offers
(at least on paper with specs) 3Xs the speed as my last computer.
My old computer is a P3 900Mhz, 384mb, with a 32mb graphics card.
This notebook offers that 3X increase for $2000.

I know I can get an increase in performance if I get a cheaper
latop, but I want it to be a pretty big boost over my old system.
My thinking is I'd rather spend a bit more now for a more
significant increase than an incremental increase. I hate the
premium you pay, but on this laptop, it's not that bad compared to
a Dell dektop.

I took the Dell 4600 for example with the same kind of setup,and
the desktop works out to be about 30% cheaper.... But the front
side bus on the notebook is 800mhz vs the desktop at 533mhz..

As for usage, I will not be taking this everywhere. I will need to
show clients things maybe once a week if that. The rest of the time
it will stay home. I would be better suited much of the time with a
desktop, but I'll need the laptop aspect as well other times.

Man, I'm having a war in my head right now.LOL

Brian
skulpt -

I'm an overpaid microprocessor designer who will gladly let my
corporate Sugar Daddy spend any amount of money they want to on
Linux boxen, Sun Ultrasparcs, and high-end laptops, but when I buy
laptops for myself, I BUY LOW-END. The problem, as I see it, is
that the premium for high-GHz CPUs, fast memory, big hard-drives,
larger glass, and a lighter gross weight, is way out-of-line with
the value actually added.

My two-year-old Toshiba Satellite bit the dust not due to
electronics failures but to mechanical problems with the case
itself. The machine was never abused, but used constantly, and
travelled with me on vacations. Over time it developed cracks in
the case and hinges, weakness in the battery charger input, and
eventually open circuits in some of the wires leading from the
motherboard to the TFT glass.

When I replaced it (Dec '03), I bought a $599 Dell Inspiron. 2.3GHz
Celeron CPU, 256MB memory, 20GB HD, CD-RW. I replaced the 20GB HD
with a 40GB HD I was using in the old Toshiba - re-formatted &
re-installed WinXP Pro, then downloaded additional drivers from the
Dell site to complete the job. Runs Photoshop CS and C1/LE just
fine, and backs up my images when I'm on a photo shoot away from
home.

One last IMPORTANT POINT: it's almost impossible to do fine image
edits on a laptop, since the contrast of the images changes
markedly when you change the TFT angle just a bit or move your head
up or down an inch. You'll want to buy a CRT to hang off the video
output of your laptop for work at home.

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Also has the advantage of not lugging around your livelihood in one easy to steal parcel.
It's a hard balance for me right now. I'veput off getting a
notebook for years because they never seem to match what I need for
graphics capabilities. The've always had this integrated video
card, poor cache, and so on. It seems like notebooks are getting
better in these regards.

Generally as well, I wait until I can afford a system that offers
(at least on paper with specs) 3Xs the speed as my last computer.
My old computer is a P3 900Mhz, 384mb, with a 32mb graphics card.
This notebook offers that 3X increase for $2000.

I know I can get an increase in performance if I get a cheaper
latop, but I want it to be a pretty big boost over my old system.
My thinking is I'd rather spend a bit more now for a more
significant increase than an incremental increase. I hate the
premium you pay, but on this laptop, it's not that bad compared to
a Dell dektop.

I took the Dell 4600 for example with the same kind of setup,and
the desktop works out to be about 30% cheaper.... But the front
side bus on the notebook is 800mhz vs the desktop at 533mhz..

As for usage, I will not be taking this everywhere. I will need to
show clients things maybe once a week if that. The rest of the time
it will stay home. I would be better suited much of the time with a
desktop, but I'll need the laptop aspect as well other times.

Man, I'm having a war in my head right now.LOL

Brian
skulpt -

I'm an overpaid microprocessor designer who will gladly let my
corporate Sugar Daddy spend any amount of money they want to on
Linux boxen, Sun Ultrasparcs, and high-end laptops, but when I buy
laptops for myself, I BUY LOW-END. The problem, as I see it, is
that the premium for high-GHz CPUs, fast memory, big hard-drives,
larger glass, and a lighter gross weight, is way out-of-line with
the value actually added.

My two-year-old Toshiba Satellite bit the dust not due to
electronics failures but to mechanical problems with the case
itself. The machine was never abused, but used constantly, and
travelled with me on vacations. Over time it developed cracks in
the case and hinges, weakness in the battery charger input, and
eventually open circuits in some of the wires leading from the
motherboard to the TFT glass.

When I replaced it (Dec '03), I bought a $599 Dell Inspiron. 2.3GHz
Celeron CPU, 256MB memory, 20GB HD, CD-RW. I replaced the 20GB HD
with a 40GB HD I was using in the old Toshiba - re-formatted &
re-installed WinXP Pro, then downloaded additional drivers from the
Dell site to complete the job. Runs Photoshop CS and C1/LE just
fine, and backs up my images when I'm on a photo shoot away from
home.

One last IMPORTANT POINT: it's almost impossible to do fine image
edits on a laptop, since the contrast of the images changes
markedly when you change the TFT angle just a bit or move your head
up or down an inch. You'll want to buy a CRT to hang off the video
output of your laptop for work at home.

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...

As for price, I get what I mentioned, with a CDRW drive, a 3 year
warranty, all for $2000 US, or $2700 Canadian. They are offering a
512mb to 1 GB of memory upgrade for free, as well as $10 shipping.
I think it's a pretty good deal.
I don't see the RAM upgrade on Dell's site (today anyway), just free upgrade to CDRW and $150 mail in rebate.

I've been thinking about replacing my note book too (have a Dell Insp 5000e with 1600x1200). Nobody seems to have all the stuff I'd like. Dell and Sony have WUXGA, but Dell doesn't offer a +- DVD burner. Acer has digital video out, which I understand would be better if I want to add an external LCD.

BTW: I have heard you can save money by buying minimum RAM from Dell and then getting what you need from Crucial. (moot if the 512-> 1G is for real).

Karl
 
I love the theory behind it, but I don't have a laptop. Bare minimum I have to spend $1000 for a laptop that will begin to do what I want, I'll still have the old desktop system that is 3 years old (or a bit more). I suppose I could get a midrange laptop and then a newer system as well.... Hmmmmm...

Brian
It's a hard balance for me right now. I'veput off getting a
notebook for years because they never seem to match what I need for
graphics capabilities. The've always had this integrated video
card, poor cache, and so on. It seems like notebooks are getting
better in these regards.

Generally as well, I wait until I can afford a system that offers
(at least on paper with specs) 3Xs the speed as my last computer.
My old computer is a P3 900Mhz, 384mb, with a 32mb graphics card.
This notebook offers that 3X increase for $2000.

I know I can get an increase in performance if I get a cheaper
latop, but I want it to be a pretty big boost over my old system.
My thinking is I'd rather spend a bit more now for a more
significant increase than an incremental increase. I hate the
premium you pay, but on this laptop, it's not that bad compared to
a Dell dektop.

I took the Dell 4600 for example with the same kind of setup,and
the desktop works out to be about 30% cheaper.... But the front
side bus on the notebook is 800mhz vs the desktop at 533mhz..

As for usage, I will not be taking this everywhere. I will need to
show clients things maybe once a week if that. The rest of the time
it will stay home. I would be better suited much of the time with a
desktop, but I'll need the laptop aspect as well other times.

Man, I'm having a war in my head right now.LOL

Brian
skulpt -

I'm an overpaid microprocessor designer who will gladly let my
corporate Sugar Daddy spend any amount of money they want to on
Linux boxen, Sun Ultrasparcs, and high-end laptops, but when I buy
laptops for myself, I BUY LOW-END. The problem, as I see it, is
that the premium for high-GHz CPUs, fast memory, big hard-drives,
larger glass, and a lighter gross weight, is way out-of-line with
the value actually added.

My two-year-old Toshiba Satellite bit the dust not due to
electronics failures but to mechanical problems with the case
itself. The machine was never abused, but used constantly, and
travelled with me on vacations. Over time it developed cracks in
the case and hinges, weakness in the battery charger input, and
eventually open circuits in some of the wires leading from the
motherboard to the TFT glass.

When I replaced it (Dec '03), I bought a $599 Dell Inspiron. 2.3GHz
Celeron CPU, 256MB memory, 20GB HD, CD-RW. I replaced the 20GB HD
with a 40GB HD I was using in the old Toshiba - re-formatted &
re-installed WinXP Pro, then downloaded additional drivers from the
Dell site to complete the job. Runs Photoshop CS and C1/LE just
fine, and backs up my images when I'm on a photo shoot away from
home.

One last IMPORTANT POINT: it's almost impossible to do fine image
edits on a laptop, since the contrast of the images changes
markedly when you change the TFT angle just a bit or move your head
up or down an inch. You'll want to buy a CRT to hang off the video
output of your laptop for work at home.

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Hi Karl. Dell Canada only is offering this. They're offering free upgrade for RAM, and $10shipping. These 2 things I am keen on. The DVD writer is good too, but I think I'm good enough off with a CDRW.

Brian
...

As for price, I get what I mentioned, with a CDRW drive, a 3 year
warranty, all for $2000 US, or $2700 Canadian. They are offering a
512mb to 1 GB of memory upgrade for free, as well as $10 shipping.
I think it's a pretty good deal.
I don't see the RAM upgrade on Dell's site (today anyway), just
free upgrade to CDRW and $150 mail in rebate.

I've been thinking about replacing my note book too (have a Dell
Insp 5000e with 1600x1200). Nobody seems to have all the stuff I'd
like. Dell and Sony have WUXGA, but Dell doesn't offer a +- DVD
burner. Acer has digital video out, which I understand would be
better if I want to add an external LCD.

BTW: I have heard you can save money by buying minimum RAM from
Dell and then getting what you need from Crucial. (moot if the
512-> 1G is for real).

Karl
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I just bought that dell, same configuration, but I got it at 3.0 not 2.8. I love the 1920x1200 resolution. I would make a couple suggestions:
1. get the 60GB drive with the 7200 as it is much faster this way
2. get the DVD-R drive to save your photos....I didn't and really regret it.

3. get the 3.2 (not much extra $$$ but much faster, I only got 3.0 and regret that as well)

4. Order the extra battery NOW, as they will charge you double if you try and buy it later.

5. If you can afford it get the XPS instead, turns out I could have just got that version for only a couple hundred more.

Now the good and the bad

good:

you can run any program you want, it is FASTER than the centrinos. The 1.7 can match the 2.8 in certain types of programs, but overall the intel P4 especially the 3.0 and above are still much faster. The 1.7 centrinos also have a big problem with not getting enough power (battery supply) to run programs like premiere pro (if that is a concern for you). A 1.7 could easily run photoshop though. The screen on this computer is simply amazing, the extra 1920 x 1200 resolution really shines in photoshop.

the bad:

its HEAVY...9lbs without battery cord and 11lbs with battery cord. You don't want to bring this bad boy with you to work....or anywhere but a nearby room. Good for a vacation where it just sits in the hotel room and serves as a back up for your photos. But even then its heavy.
Small screen size..would have been much better to have had a 17 inch screen.
Battery life is poor, I had to buy 3 batteries just to make it to europe.

Overall, this is a great high end graphics notebook taking advantage of the new ATI 9700 128 mobile card. That card can run almost any 3D game. But, just realize this is not a travel notebook. I usually keep mine at home and when I travel, I put it in a wheelie since it is too heavy to carry. I only want the most powerful and fastest laptop when I use a computer and this is pretty much it.
Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.

Thanks

Brian

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one last note, you can do fine image editing on this screen. It is still not as easy as working with a 22 inch CRT or LCD screen, but this is one of the best notebook screens you can buy, though it isn't cheap. My version of this notebook ran me about $2700. But the screen is simply amazing. Also no ghosting artifacts when you play games or watch movies.
Now the good and the bad

good:
you can run any program you want, it is FASTER than the centrinos.
The 1.7 can match the 2.8 in certain types of programs, but overall
the intel P4 especially the 3.0 and above are still much faster.
The 1.7 centrinos also have a big problem with not getting enough
power (battery supply) to run programs like premiere pro (if that
is a concern for you). A 1.7 could easily run photoshop though.
The screen on this computer is simply amazing, the extra 1920 x
1200 resolution really shines in photoshop.

the bad:
its HEAVY...9lbs without battery cord and 11lbs with battery cord.
You don't want to bring this bad boy with you to work....or
anywhere but a nearby room. Good for a vacation where it just sits
in the hotel room and serves as a back up for your photos. But even
then its heavy.
Small screen size..would have been much better to have had a 17
inch screen.
Battery life is poor, I had to buy 3 batteries just to make it to
europe.

Overall, this is a great high end graphics notebook taking
advantage of the new ATI 9700 128 mobile card. That card can run
almost any 3D game. But, just realize this is not a travel
notebook. I usually keep mine at home and when I travel, I put it
in a wheelie since it is too heavy to carry. I only want the most
powerful and fastest laptop when I use a computer and this is
pretty much it.
Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.

Thanks

Brian

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Notebooks for graphics? I've got a 1.33 GHz G4 PowerBook with 1GB Ram that rocks. I've never had to wait for PS filter, the OS starts up in about 20 seconds. I've never had an Adobe or Macromedia app crash, or the OS for that matter. Office X crashes every other month or something like that. And the built in font features are amazing.

Just my thoughts.
 
I have a Dell 5150 with 15" SXGA screen. The screen is supposedly top-notch, but I find Dell laptops to be big and clunky. If I were to do it all over, I would get a Fujitsu N5010 with 16" Crystal View screen.

Also, I don't care to much for widescreens. They're great for looking at horizontal images, but not great for looking at vertical images. Given that at least half of my images are verticals, a normal format screen makes more sense. On a widescreen, even though you gain width, you lose heighth. The Fujitsu is that much better because it has a normal format screen, but it's also 16".
Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.

Thanks

Brian

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Hey, this just pushed me over the edge.

I've heard about the size and weight, as well as the brick power adaptor. But I'm not going to be taking this everywhere. I just want ot be able to move around the house from time to time, take it to a client twice a month, and maybe take it to a park every once in a while. But this won't be a day in/day out mobile unit for me.

Good to hear about the screen. I just couldn't find other companies offering 1900X1200 at this kind of price range.

I was now planning to get the 7200 rpm drive. Might as well keep things moving faster.

I'm a bit weary about the DVDr though. I've heard about a lot of people having problems with the DVDR and this laptop.No idea why.

I have to admit I love the idea of watching movies and playing some Splinter Cell on this machine. My old computer falls apart on games 2 years old and newer.

Do you have the extra battery? Do you know how much longer this notebook can be running with the extra battery?

Brian
Now the good and the bad

good:
you can run any program you want, it is FASTER than the centrinos.
The 1.7 can match the 2.8 in certain types of programs, but overall
the intel P4 especially the 3.0 and above are still much faster.
The 1.7 centrinos also have a big problem with not getting enough
power (battery supply) to run programs like premiere pro (if that
is a concern for you). A 1.7 could easily run photoshop though.
The screen on this computer is simply amazing, the extra 1920 x
1200 resolution really shines in photoshop.

the bad:
its HEAVY...9lbs without battery cord and 11lbs with battery cord.
You don't want to bring this bad boy with you to work....or
anywhere but a nearby room. Good for a vacation where it just sits
in the hotel room and serves as a back up for your photos. But even
then its heavy.
Small screen size..would have been much better to have had a 17
inch screen.
Battery life is poor, I had to buy 3 batteries just to make it to
europe.

Overall, this is a great high end graphics notebook taking
advantage of the new ATI 9700 128 mobile card. That card can run
almost any 3D game. But, just realize this is not a travel
notebook. I usually keep mine at home and when I travel, I put it
in a wheelie since it is too heavy to carry. I only want the most
powerful and fastest laptop when I use a computer and this is
pretty much it.
Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.

Thanks

Brian

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Graphic Design Directory: http://www.adigitaldreamer.com
My Portfolio: http://skulpt.com
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Graphic Design Directory: http://www.adigitaldreamer.com
My Portfolio: http://skulpt.com
 
Ya know, If Apple would buy me Mac versions of Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and my other graphics apps, I'd seriously consider getting a Powerbook.They've got great displays, great color management, and have always loved the font management as well.

Brian
Notebooks for graphics? I've got a 1.33 GHz G4 PowerBook with 1GB
Ram that rocks. I've never had to wait for PS filter, the OS
starts up in about 20 seconds. I've never had an Adobe or
Macromedia app crash, or the OS for that matter. Office X crashes
every other month or something like that. And the built in font
features are amazing.

Just my thoughts.
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Interesting point. Luckily I do most of my pictures landscape orientation, so this will workwell for me. I also love the 1900X1200 resolution offered with a WXUGA. I've heard good things about Fujitsu though. A good notebook to be sure.

Brian
Also, I don't care to much for widescreens. They're great for
looking at horizontal images, but not great for looking at vertical
images. Given that at least half of my images are verticals, a
normal format screen makes more sense. On a widescreen, even
though you gain width, you lose heighth. The Fujitsu is that much
better because it has a normal format screen, but it's also 16".
Hi.I'veposted this on the Pro Forum as well, but I'd love your
input in this as well.

Just wondering if anyone has had experiences with Notebooks for
graphics work? I'm looking at a:

Dell Inspiron™ 9100, Pentium® 4 2.8GHz,
15.4-in. WUXGA
1GB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
128MB ATI™ Mobility Radeon™ 9700
60GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive

Dell® Wireless 1350 Internal Wireless (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)

98 WHr Primary Battery

Is there something that I am missing or should consider? This will
be replacing an old P3 900Mhz desktop. Is this a good wireless
card,or what is the standard these days for going wireless?

Is the graphics card overkill? Should I invest more in a faster
hard drive? Should I go for the 8600 series which has the M
processor at 1.5Ghz? I'll be using this mostly indoors and
connected to an outlet. I'll be doing a lot of RAW work as well.

Thanks

Brian

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Graphic Design Directory: http://www.adigitaldreamer.com
My Portfolio: http://skulpt.com
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Graphic Design Directory: http://www.adigitaldreamer.com
My Portfolio: http://skulpt.com
 
Jen you are mistaken about the relationship between graphics card memory and graphics card speed. Memory goes to resolution and color depth, not speed. It's like the difference between a 4-door and a 2-door of the same model car. They go the same speed (let's say) but one can haul more passangers.
Hmmm....Well the Graphics card has 128 MB on it. So yes, 128MB
will make it faster then a graphics card with 32 MB or 64 MB.

Why limit yourself to USB 2 ?
Fireware is way faster.......

Here's a site comparing usb2 v firewire.

http://www.frozentech.com/article.php?story_id=27

Have a cheerful day...
 
I hope that I'm not breaking any forum rules, but YOU can very easily get Mac Copies of all the apps you desire. You just have to know where to look, or who to ask. I've always thought that if you buy a Mac version why can't you also get the PC version for free? You legally can keep the same license when you buy a new computer, why can't you use the same license when you buy a new platform? Not that I want to get into a whole discussion here, but I'm just saying.
 

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