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I use both the Canon 10d and the Ist D and honestly, whether it is out of loyalty to pentax or not, I prefer the Ist D, as do many canon users who cant seem to quit playing with my camera. I find none of the features you have listed as desireable to make my Ist D competitive. The Ist D is a great camera. If there is one thing Pentax could do to make thier camera more competitive with the top two, IMO it would be USM. The only reason I use the 10D over the Ist D is when I am shooting at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway (every week). You just cant match the speed and smoothness of the 70-200 2.8 USM. Sharpness wise, my Sigma 70-200 2.8 is just as sharp on the Pentax.That is the most anal reply I've heard in a long time. Buy and useGoogle?
Now there is an imaginative name. Not.
Strange that this fellow has such a limited imagination, yet writes
such drivel.
a bunch of cameras and you will soon realize that the three things
that could make the *istD more competitive are a smaller more
powerful lithium battery, a good long zoom kit lens, and a little
stronger in camera sharpening. Whether you think those things are
important for you or not is really drivel. When it comes to
producing a camera that can compete, it better equal or surpass the
competition. Those are the three main areas where the *istD is
falling behind.
Sure the 16-45 zoom is a great companion, well make it such. Don't
include a cheap plastic little monster like the 18-50 lens that
everybody regards as the softest lens in the industry and expect to
compete with a $950 Rebel D. Don't come with a $900 camera that
produces softer images than the competition when you are trying to
sell it to consumers who are coming from consumer cameras with
heavily pushed sharpening parameters. The battery is a debatable
compromise, since most folks will probably prefer AA's simply
because they are familiar when lithium batteries are vastly
superior in power to size ratio and keep their idle charge much
longer.
When you come along and accuse folks of uttering drivel, you best
not back it up with obvious drivel of your own.
--
Dave Lewis
--about *ist D image softness. Pentax should improve their image
process algorithm and in-camera software, not just try to ruin the
noise by soften the image -- it is an easy way to eliminate noise
but not an advanced way. An old DSLR, Fuji S2 pro can tell how the
images are balanced in detail, sharpness, satuation and noise
reduction.
I dont believe the Rebel D has a magnisium internal frame. It only uses a small amt of metal reinforcement in a few critical areas. Other than that it is entirely poly carbonate. Which is not necessariy a bad thing, but would explain the lightness of the Rebel.though much bigger than the *istD weighs a good bit less and it has
a magnisum inner frame just like the *istD. It is the batteries
that make the Pentax heavy.
--
Dave Lewis
Who knows why Canon decided to stay with that dated and veryhttp://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04060601pentax900dslr.asp
Let's hope the new DSLR's image will be sharper than the very soft
*ist D image, and use a Li-ion battery and come with a good, 4x kit
D lens.
expensive battery in the MKII. Who knows why they chose to use
Lythium batteries in almost every other camera they produce. State
of the art in batteries now is the Lythium battery. It doesn't
require conditioning, it doesn't get extremely hot during charging
and discharging. It retains its idle charge far far longer than
NiMH batteries do. Supporting the use of a particular component
just because an outrageously expensive product uses it is an old
falacy. You should recognize that.
--
Dave Lewis
Well, you weren't really talking to Google either, and with this post you really aren't talking very nicely either.Dave Lewis
We met before.
I wasnt talking to you, nor would I normally wish to.
Kindly shut the f* up.
Well good. Then why not respond to my post rather than issue another anal attack..............And, may I add, that my experience is probably in
excess of yours, so off.
Actually I probably didn't make it all that clear. What I was mainly thinking of was the cheaper version Pentax is coming out with. My point was that folks coming to that camera will probably be coming from consumer cameras that have a lot of in camera sharpening and they will expect the same from that camera. The biggest criticism of the Rebel D from new users it its softness. DSLR softness has been a hot topic from the beginning. Like you, I have no problem with it.I use both the Canon 10d and the Ist D and honestly, whether it is
out of loyalty to pentax or not, I prefer the Ist D, as do many
canon users who cant seem to quit playing with my camera. I find
none of the features you have listed as desireable to make my Ist D
competitive. The Ist D is a great camera. If there is one thing
Pentax could do to make thier camera more competitive with the top
two, IMO it would be USM. The only reason I use the 10D over the
Ist D is when I am shooting at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway (every
week). You just cant match the speed and smoothness of the 70-200
2.8 USM. Sharpness wise, my Sigma 70-200 2.8 is just as sharp on
the Pentax.
And as for Pentax in Camera sharpness, as anyone knows who uses
this camera, it is just as sharp as everybody elses when processed.
If you dont like the default settings, you can turn up to the
sharpness. I do not care for the in camera sharpness of the Canon
as I prefer to do my own post processing. I like having FULL
control of my images, even if it takes a little more time (as do
most pros).
Another comment on sharpness, you cant use a cheap lens on a
digital camera and expect the image to be sharp. We go out and
spend $1500 on a nice camera body and expect to get results with a
$300 lens. Wont happen.
Thats my opinion, (the battery thing is really a non issue, let it
die)
J2D2, I'd like to buy you a beer. I'll bet you're a really nice fellow when you aren't hiding behind that keyboard.This means,I'm curious about how many DSLR's you've owned and compared the
*istD to.
"I've had more experience than you!"
Big deal DL.
Yes, it has the frame. That was discussed a while back on the Rebel D forum. I think the Canon site has a cutaway picture showing it somewhere. It really is light, though.My Rebel D,
I dont believe the Rebel D has a magnisium internal frame. It onlythough much bigger than the *istD weighs a good bit less and it has
a magnisum inner frame just like the *istD. It is the batteries
that make the Pentax heavy.
--
Dave Lewis
uses a small amt of metal reinforcement in a few critical areas.
Other than that it is entirely poly carbonate. Which is not
necessariy a bad thing, but would explain the lightness of the
Rebel.
John
Well tell us about those reasons, then. Tell us too how a similar sized lythium battery would provide lesser performance. I'm listening. Tell me. I already admitted I don't know why Canon stuck with the NiMH battery when they went to lythium in everything else. If you know why tell me.You really should read up before you open your mouth and make a
fool of your self. There are reasons why they use them and good
reasons. Just ask the guys with the new MK ii's that get 1100 to
1200 shots on a charge.
Yes, it has the frame. That was discussed a while back on the Rebel
D forum. I think the Canon site has a cutaway picture showing it
somewhere. It really is light, though.
--
Dave Lewis
Ha, ha, I've heard folks suggest that about the Rebel D. I'm rather deaf so can't hear creaks. I do know the Pentax feels more solid to me.Yes, it has the frame. That was discussed a while back on the Rebel
D forum. I think the Canon site has a cutaway picture showing it
somewhere. It really is light, though.
--
Dave Lewis
We'll talk about that over a beer, J2.Dave Lewis wrote:
That card door is almost laughable and having to dump the card out
on the floor every time is a bit of a joke too.
Pathetic DL.
You're troubled by the door?
Sad.
--We'll talk about that over a beer, J2.Dave Lewis wrote:
That card door is almost laughable and having to dump the card out
on the floor every time is a bit of a joke too.
Pathetic DL.
You're troubled by the door?
Sad.
I'm curious, J2, do you have an *istD? How do you get the card our
of yours. I'm looking for a better way. Remember, the first beer is
on me.
--
Dave Lewis
