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Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a horror story?
 
I've been told by MANY writing is good.

Yes I know it's OT, but I think a few of us on this forum can use the advise before posting a rude post.
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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this world would be a lot better off if it didn't have any people in it! :^)

Gene
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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Hey Don,

It's not that OT. Most of us have experienced this sort of thing at one time or another. Drives you crazy, but you can't let it. I've seen people with cheap point and shoots tell the official wedding photographer what to do! Argh!
Gene Bonin122762 said:
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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Jimmer said:
It's not that OT. Most of us have experienced this sort of thing
at one time or another. Drives you crazy, but you can't let it.
I've seen people with cheap point and shoots tell the official
wedding photographer what to do! Argh!
Jimmer said:
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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carpe diem, or just don't ..... but shoot, shoot, shoot
 
Just knock the selfish b* h outta the way
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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If all brides are beautiful,where do ugly women come from.
 
Bah. It's not that much of a problem. I feel that there is a lot of agressivity lately. If people are agressive,.. let them use their energy in the way they want. Use yours to make wonderfull pictures of such a day.

And POST that picture, now :-)

My 0.02€
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Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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And God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light. God saw the light was good, and he seperated the light into ten zones.
 
When these things happen to me I always thank God I am not one of those ignorant fools! Imagine you have to live your life like that!!!!
 
I have the same problem most times I try to take pics of my daughter at events. Some folks act like it's a dog eat dog world. If they would just be courteous, we could all get nice pics.

I think parents (except of course the ones on this forum, ;-) ) can be the worst. Many act as though their child and their needs are the only ones that matter. With parents like this, is it any wonder so many kids lack manners??

Lisa
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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http://www.pbase.com/lisafx
 
Frank P. Francioli said:
Welcome to the world of wedding photography....you deal with this
kind of situation all day long sometimes. But then again, I LOVE
IT!!!
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I have only tried wedding photography once, and as much as I would like to help people capture great memories of a special day, I CANNOT deal with the rude jerks. I don't see myself making it a career.

Lisa

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LisaFX
http://www.pbase.com/lisafx
 
I got a story for you. There is a message in it that I think applies.

A few years back I worked as a audio technician. I had always been really nice and helpful with all the clients that came in.. let alone the voice talent, and in turn, they were all really nice to me. Everything was great, and I was in turn extemely happy, confident and secure in my job. I worked hard for my job and everything was great. Well, until this one producer came in to do 6 cartoon trailers. I swear, I had no idea what I was about to get myself into because, she was the evilest woman I had ever met. She would cus out anyone (in English and in French), even to the point where she would make the weak cry (mostly voice talent). She was sooo rotten that when she entered the room everyone would wince.. and hide. I even remember the look of horror on some peoples faces when she made herself known and these people were fully grown adults. She was the first person I ever lothed!! and day in and out I had to hear her behind me b$%#ching and moaning about what I did and what everyone else did, like as if she was the worst ever back seat driver. I kept my cool with her the whole time because I knew that if I went ballistic then I'd shurly loose my job. But the more I had to work with her the harder it got, until one day, after getting to the point of handing in the towel, I realized something. I realized she was the saddest and loniest person I had ever met. You could see how she hated life and totally disregarded every good moment that passed by. She had no friends, and no one would ever confide in her. It was like she was living on a island by herself. So sad. The moment I realized this was really happening, all the stress lifted and I felt so much better. And when she would start bitching, it just bounced right off me. From then on till the last time I had worked with her, I didn't hate her anymore. I felt more sorry for her and that she was living such a horrible life. In turn, I was ever more nice to her because I knew it had nothing to do with me.. it was all her.

Anyways, I leave the moral of the story to you, even though its as clear as day. But I totally think it applies. And in a way, it has actually helped alot for me.
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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Gallery: http://www.members.shaw.ca/clayphish/FlashPhotoGallery/photogallery.html
 
Some people can be really, really rude. I feel for you Don, and I think that you were definitely not in the wrong for wanting to get some photos of your daughter.

Here's my story:

So I got en email today from a guy who expressly went to my website, got my email address, and wrote me this:

"Daniel, the current images you have posted on dpreview.com are not
good. You need to learn about composition and lighting. Also you should
fire your make up artist. Making a striking image is a lot more
challenging than it appears."

This is in response to my post:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=9074660

I really dont' understand why people go out of their way to be jerks to others. I'm an Eagle Scout and I always try and treat people the way I want to be treated. The guy who sent me this email didn't give me any useful suggestions other than implying that I'm a bad photographer. Obviously, I took his words with a grain of salt, but it still disappoints me that people have so much angst for one another.

It's all very immature. Keep fighting the good fight, Don.
  • Chui
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that sounds really terrible. YOu know, I have a friend who is an audio technician and he was talking to me about people that come into the recording studio with poorly-tuned instruments and then expect you to fix it in Protools.

I totally related because yesterday I photographed a girl who came in wearing no makeup and just said "Oh, you can just fix all of my blemishes in photoshop." I had given her a list of things to prepare for, and makeup was an explicit must.

Because of this I had to go through every single proof and photoshop each one for her.

Have you ever gotten that "oh you can make it better in photoshop/protools" BS? It's very frustrating.

For a portrait photographer, the face is a canvas. The better the canvas we start with, the more beautiful the painting we can make. I'm sure it's there are similar parallels in your line of work.
  • Chui
Clayphish said:
A few years back I worked as a audio technician. I had always been
really nice and helpful with all the clients that came in.. let
alone the voice talent, and in turn, they were all really nice to
me. Everything was great, and I was in turn extemely happy,
confident and secure in my job. I worked hard for my job and
everything was great. Well, until this one producer came in to do 6
cartoon trailers. I swear, I had no idea what I was about to get
myself into because, she was the evilest woman I had ever met. She
would cus out anyone (in English and in French), even to the point
where she would make the weak cry (mostly voice talent). She was
sooo rotten that when she entered the room everyone would wince..
and hide. I even remember the look of horror on some peoples faces
when she made herself known and these people were fully grown
adults. She was the first person I ever lothed!! and day in and out
I had to hear her behind me b$%#ching and moaning about what I did
and what everyone else did, like as if she was the worst ever back
seat driver. I kept my cool with her the whole time because I knew
that if I went ballistic then I'd shurly loose my job. But the more
I had to work with her the harder it got, until one day, after
getting to the point of handing in the towel, I realized something.
I realized she was the saddest and loniest person I had ever met.
You could see how she hated life and totally disregarded every good
moment that passed by. She had no friends, and no one would ever
confide in her. It was like she was living on a island by herself.
So sad. The moment I realized this was really happening, all the
stress lifted and I felt so much better. And when she would start
bitching, it just bounced right off me. From then on till the last
time I had worked with her, I didn't hate her anymore. I felt more
sorry for her and that she was living such a horrible life. In
turn, I was ever more nice to her because I knew it had nothing to
do with me.. it was all her.

Anyways, I leave the moral of the story to you, even though its as
clear as day. But I totally think it applies. And in a way, it has
actually helped alot for me.
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
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Gallery:
http://www.members.shaw.ca/clayphish/FlashPhotoGallery/photogallery.html
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http://www.chewyphoto.com
 
I remember viewing those images and being very impressed with them. Your friend is lovely and your photographs do her justice.

I guess the guy's entitled to his opinion, and I know we can't expect everyone to adore all of our work, but if he sees a problem(??) the least he could do is offer some constructive suggestions for improvement.

Lisa
Daniel Chui said:
Some people can be really, really rude. I feel for you Don, and I
think that you were definitely not in the wrong for wanting to get
some photos of your daughter.

Here's my story:

So I got en email today from a guy who expressly went to my
website, got my email address, and wrote me this:

"Daniel, the current images you have posted on dpreview.com are not
good. You need to learn about composition and lighting. Also you
should
fire your make up artist. Making a striking image is a lot more
challenging than it appears."

This is in response to my post:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=9074660

I really dont' understand why people go out of their way to be
jerks to others. I'm an Eagle Scout and I always try and treat
people the way I want to be treated. The guy who sent me this email
didn't give me any useful suggestions other than implying that I'm
a bad photographer. Obviously, I took his words with a grain of
salt, but it still disappoints me that people have so much angst
for one another.

It's all very immature. Keep fighting the good fight, Don.
  • Chui
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http://www.chewyphoto.com
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LisaFX
http://www.pbase.com/lisafx
 
That really sucks Lisa. So far I've had good experiences with parents, but it's really only a matter of time. Sometimes I'll ask if I may take some portraits of a baby, and while reactions have been good so far it's probably only a matter of time before I am accused of being a creep and/or stalker.

Oh well, live and learn!
  • Chui
lisafx said:
I think parents (except of course the ones on this forum, ;-) ) can
be the worst. Many act as though their child and their needs are
the only ones that matter. With parents like this, is it any
wonder so many kids lack manners??

Lisa
Don Trust said:
Yesterday I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and as the
graduates were coming down the main isle at the end I got up to
take a picture of my daughter. Now there were about a dozen of so
people at this spot, and two women in particular who were blocking
everyone's way during the first half of the procession. Neither
one them had taken a single photo yet. I excused myself and tried
to get around one of them long enough to get a grab shot of my
daughter.

This rude person looks at me and says "I'm taking pictures here
too, you know!" Now, she hasn't yet taken one, she didn't take
one while I tried to get my daughter's photo, and for at least a
couple minutes afterward just stood there until her son/daughter
came by.

Bottom line, while I was being chastized by this jerk, and me being
the idiot I am apologizing for getting in her way, I missed my
opportunity. Not the end of the world, but a lost shot anyway.

What the heck is wrong with some people? In a situation like this
I try my best to duck low, only be 'in the way' for an absolute
minimum of time, and in general be considerate of others. Then
there are those that think they 'own the road'.

OK, rant over. I feel better now. Anyone else want to tell a
horror story?
Click to expand...
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LisaFX
http://www.pbase.com/lisafx
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http://www.chewyphoto.com
 
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