3-D printer color gamuts

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There have been many questions lately in this forum about the color range of various printers and papers. As an aid to visualizing the color range of various printers and papers, I built and uploaded a series of interactive three dimensional models of the color gamuts for dozens of printers. The models can be spun around using your mouse to view the color spaces from all angles. Each one shows a particular printer/paper combination along with Adobe RGB and sRGB.

There are models for inkjets, sye sublimation, RA-4, and hybrid printers. All are available for viewing at: http://www.drycreekphoto.com/tools/printer_gamuts/

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Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
Hi Ethan,

Thanks for providing with this info, it is greatly appreciated!

One thing that would make comparision even easier would be to also have a volumetric size for each gamut. Is this something you could add?

Ofcourse it would be nice to be able to select two different printers/lab machines and show them in the same 3D graph.

I've been testing different labs here in Stockholm/Sweden (some won't even provide me with an profile for their machines/papers!) and I've yet to find a lab I'm 100% satisfied with regarding color.

Which brings me to a thought I've had, that you might have the answer too.

Shouldn't the profile for a system convert the whole gamut, meaning that I should not need to set the white/black point after converting to their profile?

Let me try to explain better.. If a do a softproof and the blackpoint/whitepoint looks good it shouldn't be able to burn out in either end when I print it, right?

Seems like one of the labs profiles is a custom one which seems to differ greatly from what I get, specially in the white and black point..

After having a quick look through the different outputs it looks like the canon 9900 is performing amongst the best. So it looks like if you want to get the largest gamout today you have to use a inkjey printer?

Thanks again Ethan for supplying this 3D charts!

Best regards,
Roberto Chaves
http://www.tabi.se

One thing
There have been many questions lately in this forum about the color
range of various printers and papers. As an aid to visualizing the
color range of various printers and papers, I built and uploaded a
series of interactive three dimensional models of the color gamuts
for dozens of printers. The models can be spun around using your
mouse to view the color spaces from all angles. Each one shows a
particular printer/paper combination along with Adobe RGB and sRGB.

There are models for inkjets, sye sublimation, RA-4, and hybrid
printers. All are available for viewing at:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/tools/printer_gamuts/

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
There have been many questions lately in this forum about the color
range of various printers and papers. As an aid to visualizing the
color range of various printers and papers, I built and uploaded a
series of interactive three dimensional models of the color gamuts
for dozens of printers. The models can be spun around using your
mouse to view the color spaces from all angles. Each one shows a
particular printer/paper combination along with Adobe RGB and sRGB.

There are models for inkjets, sye sublimation, RA-4, and hybrid
printers. All are available for viewing at:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/tools/printer_gamuts/

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
Wow, someone's been busy; when do you sleep? Thanks for the info.

Curious to know why yellow is so much brighter and more "volumetric" on the Canon i9900 vs the i950; same ink and paper, no?
Regards,
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WillieB
 
There have been many questions lately in this forum about the color
range of various printers and papers. As an aid to visualizing the
color range of various printers and papers, I built and uploaded a
series of interactive three dimensional models of the color gamuts
for dozens of printers. The models can be spun around using your
mouse to view the color spaces from all angles. Each one shows a
particular printer/paper combination along with Adobe RGB and sRGB.

There are models for inkjets, sye sublimation, RA-4, and hybrid
printers. All are available for viewing at:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/tools/printer_gamuts/

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
I love the wire frame for the 2 color spaces, really lets you see through to the ink/paper in question. I've played with the Gretag utility for the same, and wish they had thought to offer wire frame as a "color" choice. VERY NICE work! Would you be interested in profiles from other printer/paper/ink combos, or would you like to keep it limited to the profiles that you have created?
 
Wow, someone's been busy; when do you sleep? Thanks for the info.
If you bought coffee futures earlier this year, I have been on a one-man crusade to make you rich!
Curious to know why yellow is so much brighter and more
"volumetric" on the Canon i9900 vs the i950; same ink and paper, no?
The i9900 adds red and green ink. These are what expand the color gamut in the range from greenn through yellow to red.

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
As an aid to visualizing the
color range of various printers and papers, I built and uploaded a
series of interactive three dimensional models of the color gamuts
for dozens of printers.
Thank you! We all owe you a debt of gratitude for your contribution. What follows are some comments and suggestions in no way intended to diminish the value of what you have done already:

1. I was struck by the high contrast ratio for the Canon i9900 with Canon Photo Pro paper. In my quick scan, I did not notice any other printer with a higher number. On the other hand, you only addressed Epson pigment ink printers. In fairness to Epson, you might cover an Epson dye printer such as the 1280.

2. As others have suggested, I would like to see the ability to compare two printers in terms of gamut. Not sure what conclusions one could draw safely, but it still would be nice. As a practical matter, you already provide the ability to compare contrast ratios. Intuitively, that should be a very important comparison. (Is my intuition correct?)

3. Obviously, your website is a great promotion for your business. In terms of assessing whether I should buy profiles from your company, two questions are obvious:

a. How different is one instance of a particular printer (e.g., Canon i9900) from another? In other words, how tight are the manufacturing tolerances? Do you have any quantitative data? (Obviously, I am trying to understand whether your profile is likely to be more accurate for my printer than the one provided by the manufacturer.)

b. How much does a particular instance of a printer change over time? In other words, how often does one need to update printer profiles? Do you have any quantitative data on how things change over time?

One final observation from a prospective customer. There are a glut of different papers on the market, and the printer manufacturers tend to support only their own brands with profiles. That means a lot of interesting papers are a mystery for me as a user. I have tried some Epson papers (Premium Glossy, Colorlife, and Matte Heavyweight) with the "obvious" Canon profiles for my i9900. The results have be very good -- surprisingly good. There might be a market for a package of Epson paper profiles for specific Canon printers. Speaking more generally, I can see a real value to profile packages (i.e., a collection of different papers) for specific printers. Today, I am expected to buy (or make) a single profile for a particular paper before I know whether the result will be any better than what I already have. If you provided a package of profiles (especially with a comparison capability), I could use your profiles to help in selecting the papers to try out. I think that would be quite valuable (i.e., worth paying for).

In any case, thanks again for your contribution.
 
I love the wire frame for the 2 color spaces, really lets you see
through to the ink/paper in question. I've played with the Gretag
utility for the same, and wish they had thought to offer wire frame
as a "color" choice. VERY NICE work!
I stole the idea from ColorThink - it makes seeing the difference between color spaces far easier than trying to peer through one solid to another.
Would you be interested in
profiles from other printer/paper/ink combos, or would you like to
keep it limited to the profiles that you have created?
We have hundreds, no make that thousands, of printer/paper combinations that are not represented in the charts. This was an effort to get a representative bunch of printers and papers rather than be absolutely comprehensive. I kept thinking of printers that I had not put up, and some papers - Ilford in particular - are under-represented. Stuff to put on a to-do list.

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
Roberto,

Thank you for the detailed coments. I intespersed replies and random thoughts below.
Hi Ethan,

Thanks for providing with this info, it is greatly appreciated!

One thing that would make comparision even easier would be to also
have a volumetric size for each gamut. Is this something you could
add?
This was something I thought about: giving a volume metric of how many Delta-E a color space contained. It did not make the final cut for two reasons. First, I could not think of a smart method for calculating volume other than a brute-force integration of many a-b plane slices through the color gamut. Finding the maximum saturation points to plot is easy; rebuilding the color model to pluck out arbitrary L-planes is not.

The second reason is that I hesitate to add too many single-number comparison values for the color gamuts. A large color gamut is a useful thing in a printer, however I submit that good ink linearization, sensible ink limiting, etc. are all of more importance in getting good looking prints. Exhibit A in this regard is the Epson 1270/80/90. In No Color Adjustments mode it has a remarkably wide gamut. (And, no, there isn't a plot of it on our web site - need to add some later!). The problem is that the ink linearization is lousy in NCA mode, making for posterization and banding in shadow areas. Printing with one of the Automatic modes sacrifices absolute gamut range for greatly improved inking strategy. You wil not get the radioactive cyan/green colors, but you will be able to distinguish differences between dark brown tones.
Ofcourse it would be nice to be able to select two different
printers/lab machines and show them in the same 3D graph.
I agree. That, however, was more work than I had time for. My colleagues and assistants thought what I did was crazy enough. What this calls for is a serious computer geek intern willing to work for coffee and beer.
I've been testing different labs here in Stockholm/Sweden (some
won't even provide me with an profile for their machines/papers!)
and I've yet to find a lab I'm 100% satisfied with regarding color.

Which brings me to a thought I've had, that you might have the
answer too.
Shouldn't the profile for a system convert the whole gamut, meaning
that I should not need to set the white/black point after
converting to their profile?
Much of this is governed by the rendering intent you choose for the profile conversion. Adobe also offers Black Point Compensation to scale the black point of your image to the destination color space black. The problem is that when you go from a monitor with a contrast range of 300-600:1 down to a print with less than 100:1 something needs to give. Different rendering intents use different strategies in how the black to white range compression occurs.

This is also a function of the profiling software and, ideally, the folks making the profile. For example, we use the relative freedom of the Perceptual rendering intent to open up shadows on difficult printers. This lightens the entire image slightly, otherwise there would be curious looking transitions. For images with significant shadow detail that otherwise would go to dark mush, this apporach works exceptionally well.
Let me try to explain better.. If a do a softproof and the
blackpoint/whitepoint looks good it shouldn't be able to burn out
in either end when I print it, right?
True.
Seems like one of the labs profiles is a custom one which seems to
differ greatly from what I get, specially in the white and black
point..
There could be two reasons for this. The first is on your end: if your monitor is not calibrated accurately, the extremes of contrast can be off. On an LCD, it is easy to set the white level too high, giving an overly optimistic view of how much highlight detail will be preserved. The second is that the profile may not be accurate at either extreme. We built our own profiling targets and much of the analysis software in large part to handle shadows and highlights better than would otherwise be possible.
After having a quick look through the different outputs it looks
like the canon 9900 is performing amongst the best. So it looks
like if you want to get the largest gamout today you have to use a
inkjey printer?
No other printing process else can match the overall color range of an inkjet. As multicolor printing comes to the desktop (Canon i9900, Epson R800) this difference becomes larger. Some dye subs, Kodak in particilar, have a terrific range in yellows. This, I assume, is to better match the gamut of E6 film. The Fuji Pictrography has the largest overall color range of any printer that uses actual photo paper. In pure magenta, you'll find little that exceeds what a LightJet or Durst can do on good, glossy paper.
Thanks again Ethan for supplying this 3D charts!

Best regards,
Roberto Chaves
http://www.tabi.se
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Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
Wow, someone's been busy; when do you sleep? Thanks for the info.
If you bought coffee futures earlier this year, I have been on a
one-man crusade to make you rich!
Curious to know why yellow is so much brighter and more
"volumetric" on the Canon i9900 vs the i950; same ink and paper, no?
The i9900 adds red and green ink. These are what expand the color
gamut in the range from greenn through yellow to red.

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
Ok, I understand the volumetric contribution of R & G in general. Up around L=85--90, though, the yellow vector pokes its nose through sRGB noticibly farther on the i9900; R & G helping this far "north"?
Regards,
--
WillieB
 
The top reads R800 color gamut but the text in yellow reads Epson 2200. I assume that was a typo. Just FYI.
There have been many questions lately in this forum about the color
range of various printers and papers. As an aid to visualizing the
color range of various printers and papers, I built and uploaded a
series of interactive three dimensional models of the color gamuts
for dozens of printers. The models can be spun around using your
mouse to view the color spaces from all angles. Each one shows a
particular printer/paper combination along with Adobe RGB and sRGB.

There are models for inkjets, sye sublimation, RA-4, and hybrid
printers. All are available for viewing at:
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/tools/printer_gamuts/
 
Thank you! We all owe you a debt of gratitude for your
contribution. What follows are some comments and suggestions in no
way intended to diminish the value of what you have done already:
No problem! I can't say my ego is tied to a web site, so all comments and criticisms are welcome.
1. I was struck by the high contrast ratio for the Canon i9900 with
Canon Photo Pro paper. In my quick scan, I did not notice any other
printer with a higher number. On the other hand, you only addressed
Epson pigment ink printers. In fairness to Epson, you might cover
an Epson dye printer such as the 1280.
Not having the 1280 was an omission. It was on the original list, which I happily lost during the wee hours one night. I'll get some 1280 plots for both NCA and automatic modes uploaded before long.
2. As others have suggested, I would like to see the ability to
compare two printers in terms of gamut. Not sure what conclusions
one could draw safely, but it still would be nice.
It sure would. Realistically, however, I just don't see having enough time to do this in the near future. Interactive web programming is not something I am familiar enough with to do at any reasonable speed.
As a practical
matter, you already provide the ability to compare contrast ratios.
Intuitively, that should be a very important comparison. (Is my
intuition correct?)
It is for some purposes. As I mentioned in a reply above, I hesitated to even provide this metric. Having high contrast capability is always a good thing - that's why B&W printers worshipped to the gods of DMax. All things being equal, a higher contrast range makes for prints that offer more visual pop. The Noritsu Mytis (a strange dye-sub/inkjet hybrid) is one example. The color range is not the greatest, but the exceptional DMax and range in the shadows makes for prints that leap off the page. Nonetheless, neither color nor contrast range are the be-all and end-all of digital printing. Having good ink linearization and limiting, along with a balanced color gamut, makes for high quality, visually pleasing colors.
3. Obviously, your website is a great promotion for your business.
In terms of assessing whether I should buy profiles from your
company, two questions are obvious:

a. How different is one instance of a particular printer (e.g.,
Canon i9900) from another? In other words, how tight are the
manufacturing tolerances? Do you have any quantitative data?
(Obviously, I am trying to understand whether your profile is
likely to be more accurate for my printer than the one provided by
the manufacturer.)
We do not have a huge number of i9900's profiled yet - a total of 9 - but the numbers look comparable to previous printers. The average printer-to-printer variation is about 5 Delta E-94, with the occasional color up to 10 or more. For reference, the typical contract proof to print match for commercial acceptance is an average of 3 dE and a maximum of 6.

My recommendation is always to evaluate the manufacturer's own profiles first. Canon uses oddball matrix shaper profiles that sacrifice absolute accuracy for smooth transitions. In many instances, these profiles are good enough. If you are happy with their performance, by all means keep your money in your wallet. If you see an overall color cast, or there is a defined color range (usually reds with Canon printers) that is far off, a good custom profile can certainly help.
b. How much does a particular instance of a printer change over
time? In other words, how often does one need to update printer
profiles? Do you have any quantitative data on how things change
over time?
That depends on the printer. We have the most data for Fuji Frontier, Noritsu, and Agfa printers. With all three, we pooled our data with measurements provided by the printer manufacturers. Our findingswere that after six months, our instruments could easily detect a systematic color shift (1-2 dE), but your eyes would be hard pressed to see the change. After a year, changes in the printer make for visible shifts in output color (2-5 dE on average), but still not that bad. That was where our recommendation (also now being provided by Noritsu, Agfa, and Fuji) of a six-month re-profiling schedule for maximum accuracy came from. For many labs, we tie in new profiles to software and hardware upgrades.

Epson and Canon printers have proven to be remarkably stable. Epson's experience with ink formulation changes a few years back obviously taught them something. The exception is the "silent upgrade" Canon made to their PPP paper. This made for a distinct change in output characteristics (avg. of 5 dE). Photographers with critical color requirements are left needing new profiles for PPP. Aside from such gaffes, both Epson and Canon machines seem to be able to go for years without a systematic drift of more than a few Delta E-94. That is remarkable. We see the occasional printer that varies much more; this likely indicates a hardware flaw.

HP printers are more likely to vary with ink/print head changes. HP's paper itself is also inconsistent from batch to batch. Our data points to this perhaps being the result of different paper manufacturing lines - the HP paper surfaces we have measured look to fall into distinct "clumps" of spectral characteristics. We do not get a large HP printers or papers for measurement, so this is equal parts speculation and actual data.

The printer stability champ are the Fuji Pictrography printers. They go for years with no more color shift than what you get between morning and afternoon (less than 1 dE average). One profilie is all that is needed until the printer is put out to pasture or has major repairs.

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
One final observation from a prospective customer. There are a glut
of different papers on the market, and the printer manufacturers
tend to support only their own brands with profiles.
Of course! That's where the real money is for them - ink and paper.
That means a
lot of interesting papers are a mystery for me as a user. I have
tried some Epson papers (Premium Glossy, Colorlife, and Matte
Heavyweight) with the "obvious" Canon profiles for my i9900. The
results have be very good -- surprisingly good. There might be a
market for a package of Epson paper profiles for specific Canon
printers. Speaking more generally, I can see a real value to
profile packages (i.e., a collection of different papers) for
specific printers. Today, I am expected to buy (or make) a single
profile for a particular paper before I know whether the result
will be any better than what I already have. If you provided a
package of profiles (especially with a comparison capability), I
could use your profiles to help in selecting the papers to try out.
I think that would be quite valuable (i.e., worth paying for).
Some companies provide a bag 'o generic profiles as you suggest. Check out inkjetmall.com and Mike Chaney's ddisoftware.com. This is also the approach used by RIP vendors such as ImagePrint and ColorBurst. You buy the RIP and they give you profiles made for somebody else's machine. We debated this approach and decided against it. The main reason was that we could not stand behind our product - how well it would work for any customer would be a matter of blind luck.

You read many postings here and elsewhere about how well the profiles provided with any particular printer work. Some people praise them highly, others say the profiles stink. Both comments are probably correct. One fellow's printer was a close match to the one characterized by the manufacturer, the other one was not.

We are exploring working with third party media manufacturers to make generic profiles for their media. These will be intentionally de-tuned from our custom profiles. The reason is that a profile that is highly optimized for one particular printer can easily give visually less good looking results on a different printer than a profile that is overall less accurate. Our goal is to provide the equivalent of the manufacturer's own profiles - OK performance in most cases, while photographers who desire the ultimate in accuracy will get profiles made for their own machine. I simply could not in good conscience sell these profiles to individual photographers. I want to be able to stand behind the work we do rather than taking your money and wishing you good luck.

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
The top reads R800 color gamut but the text in yellow reads Epson
2200. I assume that was a typo. Just FYI.
Thanks for the catch! I looked through all those plots way too many times and didn't see that one. It was more than a typo - the 2200 data was loaded as well. I fixed it; the R800 plot shows the greater range in blues.

Thanks!

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
Ok, I understand the volumetric contribution of R & G in general.
Up around L=85--90, though, the yellow vector pokes its nose
through sRGB noticibly farther on the i9900; R & G helping this
far "north"?
It looks as though Canon either changed the yellow formulation (less likely) or the ink mixing methodology (more likely) in producing yellows. By not relying on any cyan or magenta in the mix, the yellow can be turned on more agressively over a wider range and still get good colors as you bend off towards green or red.

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
 
We are exploring working with third party media manufacturers to
make generic profiles for their media. These will be intentionally
de-tuned from our custom profiles. The reason is that a profile
that is highly optimized for one particular printer can easily give
visually less good looking results on a different printer than a
profile that is overall less accurate. Our goal is to provide the
equivalent of the manufacturer's own profiles - OK performance in
most cases, while photographers who desire the ultimate in accuracy
will get profiles made for their own machine. I simply could not in
good conscience sell these profiles to individual photographers. I
want to be able to stand behind the work we do rather than taking
your money and wishing you good luck.

--
Ethan Hansen
http://www.drycreekphoto.com/
Good call on that policy, never lose your integrity. There are enough average places to fill the empty holes.
 
I simply could not in
good conscience sell these profiles to individual photographers. I
want to be able to stand behind the work we do
I certainly would not suggest you sell anything which you could not "stand behind". For whatever it is worth, my interest was not in seeing a collection of stand-alone profiles like those from ddisoftware or inkjetmall but a collection of profiles along with your (perhaps further enhanced) comparative information. Buying a collection of stand-alone protocols implies that I already know which paper/ink combinations are good or that I am willing to spend lots of time experimenting. Neither is true for me. I would like help zeroing in on the "right" paper/ink combination, and only then do I care about the actual profile.

As for the question of selling generic or de-tuned profiles to individual photographers, I think the issue is setting expectations properly. If you tell me that I am buying a profile based on some averaging process across multiple instances of a particular printer model, then I would expect one level of accuracy. If you sell me a custom profile for my specific instance of that printer model, I would expect a very different level of accuracy. You ought to be able to "stand behind" both products.

In any case, you are making a real contribution toward improving the messy world of printers and color management. Please keep at it.
 
Hi again Ethan,

Thanks for your input and sharing your experience and knowledge, a few comments follow below...
One thing that would make comparision even easier would be to also
have a volumetric size for each gamut. Is this something you could
add?
This was something I thought about: giving a volume metric of how
many Delta-E a color space contained. It did not make the final cut
for two reasons. First, I could not think of a smart method for
calculating volume other than a brute-force integration of many a-b
plane slices through the color gamut. Finding the maximum
saturation points to plot is easy; rebuilding the color model to
pluck out arbitrary L-planes is not.
Hmm.. there might be an easy solution to calculating this. Some 3D modelling programs let you calculate the volume of a 3D mesh and as you have create VRLM files they might be able to import correctly.
Maybe I can help you with this if you wish.
The second reason is that I hesitate to add too many single-number
comparison values for the color gamuts. A large color gamut is a
useful thing in a printer, however I submit that good ink
linearization, sensible ink limiting, etc. are all of more
importance in getting good looking prints. Exhibit A in this regard
is the Epson 1270/80/90. In No Color Adjustments mode it has a
remarkably wide gamut. (And, no, there isn't a plot of it on our
web site - need to add some later!). The problem is that the ink
linearization is lousy in NCA mode, making for posterization and
banding in shadow areas. Printing with one of the Automatic modes
sacrifices absolute gamut range for greatly improved inking
strategy. You wil not get the radioactive cyan/green colors, but
you will be able to distinguish differences between dark brown
tones.
I agree that having single-number comparision values might lead people to make the wrong asumptions.

As you say other factors such as linearization have great impact on the final visual result.

Another problem would be having a great gamut but most of it residing outside the AdobeRGB space that most people use.

Still I think it is a nice complementary metric that might be easier to implement than to be able to merge different profiles into the same VRML object.

This metric could also be defined in a few different ways such as:
1) Volume size

2) Volume size clipped against AdobeRGB volume space so to just get the results that are inside AdobeRGB
3) Percentage of AdobeRGB/sRGB space
Ofcourse it would be nice to be able to select two different
printers/lab machines and show them in the same 3D graph.
I agree. That, however, was more work than I had time for. My
colleagues and assistants thought what I did was crazy enough. What
this calls for is a serious computer geek intern willing to work
for coffee and beer.
:-) Yes, that is a lot of work. Fortunately wishing is free!
Let me try to explain better.. If a do a softproof and the
blackpoint/whitepoint looks good it shouldn't be able to burn out
in either end when I print it, right?
True.
Seems like one of the labs profiles is a custom one which seems to
differ greatly from what I get, specially in the white and black
point..
There could be two reasons for this. The first is on your end: if
your monitor is not calibrated accurately, the extremes of contrast
can be off. On an LCD, it is easy to set the white level too high,
giving an overly optimistic view of how much highlight detail will
be preserved. The second is that the profile may not be accurate at
either extreme. We built our own profiling targets and much of the
analysis software in large part to handle shadows and highlights
better than would otherwise be possible.
I usually calibrate and create a new profile for my crt monitor just before processing the pictures for print just to make sure everything is good.

Maybe the hardware I use hasn't good enough precision (I use MonacoOptix), but I doubt (and hope!) it doesn't have that bad precision.
After having a quick look through the different outputs it looks
like the canon 9900 is performing amongst the best. So it looks
like if you want to get the largest gamout today you have to use a
inkjey printer?
No other printing process else can match the overall color range of
an inkjet. As multicolor printing comes to the desktop (Canon
i9900, Epson R800) this difference becomes larger. Some dye subs,
Kodak in particilar, have a terrific range in yellows. This, I
assume, is to better match the gamut of E6 film. The Fuji
Pictrography has the largest overall color range of any printer
that uses actual photo paper. In pure magenta, you'll find little
that exceeds what a LightJet or Durst can do on good, glossy paper.
This is very interesting to hear, knowledge that you just get by trying all of these machines yourself (I guess most labs would be annoyed if questioned how the work and asked to see their settings!) or by getting it from someone like you!
Best regards,
Roberto Chaves
http://www.tabi.se
 

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