Canon S1 IS vs Canon G5

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i'm completely lost, what photocamera to pick: canon s1 is or canon g5...
eachone has diferent postitive points, and diferent negative points...
what camera to pick?
 
only YOU can decide on what you are willing to live with & what you're willing to give up....every camera will be a compromise, this is a fact.

CHIA
i'm completely lost, what photocamera to pick: canon s1 is or canon
g5...
eachone has diferent postitive points, and diferent negative points...
what camera to pick?
 
i'm completely lost, what photocamera to pick: canon s1 is or canon
g5...
eachone has diferent postitive points, and diferent negative points...
what camera to pick?
The best thing is to handle both at a store.

That's what I did today. I compared the Nikon 5400, Sony DSC-V1, and the G5. I am not a photographer, so I just went with feel. In the end, I think the G5 was best. 5400's layout was confusing, DSC-V1 is too small for my hands, G5 is solid, and comes with an infrared remote.

But Wait! They also had the S1 there too. Omg, the S1's layout and build is just beautiful. Better, the 10x stabilizing zoom is great. You can actually see the stabilization effect on the LCD. Movie mode is like a camcorder. It has enough manual controls for me.

More pluses are that the flash is over the lens (compared to the left corner of the G5, which your finger can cover), the EVF is good for macro mode (not that important for me), cheaper than the G5.

I was going for more of a prosumer camera, but my next digicam is the S1. I don't know if that helped you at all. Sorry if it didn't.
 
The S1 can also use a remote control, I purchased it, and it works with other Canon digital cameras that allow this use.
i'm completely lost, what photocamera to pick: canon s1 is or canon
g5...
eachone has diferent postitive points, and diferent negative points...
what camera to pick?
The best thing is to handle both at a store.

That's what I did today. I compared the Nikon 5400, Sony DSC-V1,
and the G5. I am not a photographer, so I just went with feel. In
the end, I think the G5 was best. 5400's layout was confusing,
DSC-V1 is too small for my hands, G5 is solid, and comes with an
infrared remote.

But Wait! They also had the S1 there too. Omg, the S1's layout
and build is just beautiful. Better, the 10x stabilizing zoom is
great. You can actually see the stabilization effect on the LCD.
Movie mode is like a camcorder. It has enough manual controls for
me.

More pluses are that the flash is over the lens (compared to the
left corner of the G5, which your finger can cover), the EVF is
good for macro mode (not that important for me), cheaper than the
G5.

I was going for more of a prosumer camera, but my next digicam is
the S1. I don't know if that helped you at all. Sorry if it
didn't.
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Really? That's sweet! Is there a part number for it? how much does it cost?
i'm completely lost, what photocamera to pick: canon s1 is or canon
g5...
eachone has diferent postitive points, and diferent negative points...
what camera to pick?
The best thing is to handle both at a store.

That's what I did today. I compared the Nikon 5400, Sony DSC-V1,
and the G5. I am not a photographer, so I just went with feel. In
the end, I think the G5 was best. 5400's layout was confusing,
DSC-V1 is too small for my hands, G5 is solid, and comes with an
infrared remote.

But Wait! They also had the S1 there too. Omg, the S1's layout
and build is just beautiful. Better, the 10x stabilizing zoom is
great. You can actually see the stabilization effect on the LCD.
Movie mode is like a camcorder. It has enough manual controls for
me.

More pluses are that the flash is over the lens (compared to the
left corner of the G5, which your finger can cover), the EVF is
good for macro mode (not that important for me), cheaper than the
G5.

I was going for more of a prosumer camera, but my next digicam is
the S1. I don't know if that helped you at all. Sorry if it
didn't.
--
ICQ: 125470635
AIM: Schockwave500
Yahoo: schockwave500
MSN: [email protected]
http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Schockwave/
http://www.pbase.com/schockwave
 
You aren't exactly comparing apples to apples. The G5 is $100 more than the S1.

We'd need more info on the intended use of the camera: able to do good point and shoot for use by a family member who just likes P&S; lots of flash photography where you want option to use a more power flash with flash bounch; a super zoom; lots of manual control use where a command wheel is faster/easier to use than arrow buttons.

If cost is not an issue, you don't need an uber zoom, and you still can't decide, go with the G5. It has a metal body, a flash shoe, and it is black.
  • Marcos
i'm completely lost, what photocamera to pick: canon s1 is or canon
g5...
eachone has diferent postitive points, and diferent negative points...
what camera to pick?
 
Yes, the wireless controller part number is WL-DC100, and is not very expensive at all, is between 20 and 25 pounds in the UK. I actually paid £20.99 at Jessops.
i'm completely lost, what photocamera to pick: canon s1 is or canon
g5...
eachone has diferent postitive points, and diferent negative points...
what camera to pick?
The best thing is to handle both at a store.

That's what I did today. I compared the Nikon 5400, Sony DSC-V1,
and the G5. I am not a photographer, so I just went with feel. In
the end, I think the G5 was best. 5400's layout was confusing,
DSC-V1 is too small for my hands, G5 is solid, and comes with an
infrared remote.

But Wait! They also had the S1 there too. Omg, the S1's layout
and build is just beautiful. Better, the 10x stabilizing zoom is
great. You can actually see the stabilization effect on the LCD.
Movie mode is like a camcorder. It has enough manual controls for
me.

More pluses are that the flash is over the lens (compared to the
left corner of the G5, which your finger can cover), the EVF is
good for macro mode (not that important for me), cheaper than the
G5.

I was going for more of a prosumer camera, but my next digicam is
the S1. I don't know if that helped you at all. Sorry if it
didn't.
--
ICQ: 125470635
AIM: Schockwave500
Yahoo: schockwave500
MSN: [email protected]
http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Schockwave/
http://www.pbase.com/schockwave
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ICQ: 125470635
AIM: Schockwave500
Yahoo: schockwave500
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http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Schockwave/
http://www.pbase.com/schockwave
 
Did anybody forget that there's a 2 megapixel difference there also?
I like the 10x, but theres no hotshoe!

Movies are for movie cameras, and the S1 is limited by the length, lighting, sound, and storage.

Sorry I'm a little G5 bias :)

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Ron
Canon Powershot G5
 
If you dont need the extra 10x, the IS, and the video definately a G5 is a better buy if you have the extra money. U might even consider the Lumix DMC-LC1.
Did anybody forget that there's a 2 megapixel difference there also?
I like the 10x, but theres no hotshoe!
Movies are for movie cameras, and the S1 is limited by the length,
lighting, sound, and storage.

Sorry I'm a little G5 bias :)

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Ron
Canon Powershot G5
 
Did anybody forget that there's a 2 megapixel difference there also?
I like the 10x, but theres no hotshoe!
Movies are for movie cameras, and the S1 is limited by the length,
lighting, sound, and storage.
The problem is that with digtal cameras becoming so much more popular these days, the manufacturers are luring all type of people into the arena....many of them not really photagraphers, or even aspiring photograhers. Features such as video and ultra compact size is getting put before actual image quality.

When you see a poster who is obviously swayed one way or the other by these features alone, you have to accept the fact that they not and will not buy a camera with still image quality as their critical decission making factor.

I find it a bit annoying, as this is reason I stumbled on this forum, and have frequented it for so long. I have finally accepted the fact that this particular forum has changed, and that many of the new posters are techies, who are more sold on gadgets and features than ultimate image. The funny thing is that I'm a young male, who also loves gadgets, but will not compromise still image quality for 640X480 video, IS, AA betteries,a cool colour, or stealth like size.

Don't get me wrong.....I think those are all really great features, but image quality as a still camera will be numero uno, and any of the other bells & whistles will simply be cherrys on top.

CHIA
 
Hey, I am no techie!! If you want to shoot anything more than whole family potraits or neat landscapes you will NEED at least a 28mm a 50mm and a +200mm for half body portraits and blury backround stuff and maybe even a 300mm for close up and sports.

I dont want to spend time croping stuff

I think you guys are the techies that talk about quality all the time.

NO doubt any decent canon or other main brand camera will give awesome pictures in almost all settings. Technologie has gone that far.

NO doubt that the photographer is the key NOT the camera!

It has never been easier to take greater pictures.

If image quality is important YOU should not wave IS so lightly. IS will let you take indoor pics without a Flash with iso100 sensibility!! NOT a joke at all.

The best oportunities for great pictures come in low light conditions such as indoors, night events etc. Is either IS or a tripod.

Until DSLR become even cheaper something like the S1 is a great oportunity. The 640X movie, IS and the batterie are just features that will set it appart from similar models from other brands. The S1 and the G5 are not competitors.

A 1x lens of a given brand will have more quality image than its 3x. And its 3x will be more flexible than its 1x. Similar to 3x with 10x.
Did anybody forget that there's a 2 megapixel difference there also?
I like the 10x, but theres no hotshoe!
Movies are for movie cameras, and the S1 is limited by the length,
lighting, sound, and storage.
The problem is that with digtal cameras becoming so much more
popular these days, the manufacturers are luring all type of people
into the arena....many of them not really photagraphers, or even
aspiring photograhers. Features such as video and ultra compact
size is getting put before actual image quality.

When you see a poster who is obviously swayed one way or the other
by these features alone, you have to accept the fact that they not
and will not buy a camera with still image quality as their
critical decission making factor.

I find it a bit annoying, as this is reason I stumbled on this
forum, and have frequented it for so long. I have finally accepted
the fact that this particular forum has changed, and that many of
the new posters are techies, who are more sold on gadgets and
features than ultimate image. The funny thing is that I'm a young
male, who also loves gadgets, but will not compromise still image
quality for 640X480 video, IS, AA betteries,a cool colour, or
stealth like size.

Don't get me wrong.....I think those are all really great features,
but image quality as a still camera will be numero uno, and any of
the other bells & whistles will simply be cherrys on top.

CHIA
 
Personally I like the G3 a little more than I like the G5 since I didn't think the G5 was innovative enough over the G3 --- I was disappointed.

In my situation, my roommate owns a G3 and good friend bought a G5. That G5 was my friend's first digicam and I had to help me figure out how to use it. He did grow into it, but, lamented the lack of a powerful zoom.

The S1 IS is a great camera for its size. I wouldn't want a 5 megapixel S1 IS if the noise level was to sky rocket higher than it already is with the S1. The S1 isn't a good deal if it listed higher than $500 with an online price of $430 or so. Any higher and you are looking at G5 or Sony V1 class cameras with hot shoe.

The S1's movie mode is surprisingly very good. It's perfect for those of us who don't want to lug a DV camcorder around, but, want the option of a few quick video clips. I'm using mine to capture golf swings at the driving range for analysis.
  • Marcos
Did anybody forget that there's a 2 megapixel difference there also?
I like the 10x, but theres no hotshoe!
Movies are for movie cameras, and the S1 is limited by the length,
lighting, sound, and storage.

Sorry I'm a little G5 bias :)

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Ron
Canon Powershot G5
 
Hey, I am no techie!! If you want to shoot anything more than whole
family potraits or neat landscapes you will NEED at least a 28mm a
50mm and a +200mm for half body portraits and blury backround stuff
and maybe even a 300mm for close up and sports.
Sounds like you could use a DSLR.
I think you guys are the techies that talk about quality all the time.
"You" guys? Clearly I have been put in a different leauge....were does that put you?
NO doubt any decent canon or other main brand camera will give
awesome pictures in almost all settings. Technologie has gone that
far.
So has your imagination....this is what I am talking about...point made.
NO doubt that the photographer is the key NOT the camera!
All other things being equal...yes.
It has never been easier to take greater pictures.
No kidding......even I can take nice pics.....sometimes.
If image quality is important YOU should not wave IS so lightly.
IS will let you take indoor pics without a Flash with iso100
sensibility!! NOT a joke at all.
I know about IS, I have a 28-135IS for my Drebel. You need IS for those P&S cameras....takes so long to focus! Ha Ha. I should have been more clear.....long zoom is not a big selling point to me in the P&S type arena, as there is always compromise on image quality....the IS feature helps.
The best oportunities for great pictures come in low light
conditions such as indoors, night events etc. Is either IS or a
tripod.
That's quite a generalization. While there are some great opportunities for photos in low light/indoors, I would hardly say the "BEST". This is really 100% dependant on what type of photos you like to take.
Until DSLR become even cheaper something like the S1 is a great
oportunity. The 640X movie, IS and the batterie are just features
that will set it appart from similar models from other brands. The
S1 and the G5 are not competitors.
There's no similarity between the DSLR and the S1, so don't even try to draw comparisons. You are suggesting that the S1 is a low cost alternative to a DSLR....not even close.
A 1x lens of a given brand will have more quality image than its
3x. And its 3x will be more flexible than its 1x. Similar to 3x
with 10x.
Again.....quite a generalization...........Hey, I'm not knocking the S1, I think it's a great camera....sounds like it's perfect for you.

CHIA
 
Personally I like the G3 a little more than I like the G5 since I
didn't think the G5 was innovative enough over the G3 --- I was
disappointed.

In my situation, my roommate owns a G3 and good friend bought a G5.
That G5 was my friend's first digicam and I had to help me figure
out how to use it. He did grow into it, but, lamented the lack of
a powerful zoom.

The S1 IS is a great camera for its size. I wouldn't want a 5
megapixel S1 IS if the noise level was to sky rocket higher than it
already is with the S1. The S1 isn't a good deal if it listed
higher than $500 with an online price of $430 or so. Any higher
and you are looking at G5 or Sony V1 class cameras with hot shoe.

The S1's movie mode is surprisingly very good. It's perfect for
those of us who don't want to lug a DV camcorder around, but, want
the option of a few quick video clips. I'm using mine to capture
golf swings at the driving range for analysis.
  • Marcos
Speaking of golf swings, how well does the s1 capture it? That's what I want to do with the s1 once I get it.
 
The G5 is now going for $499 at CircuitCity!!!

I just got a refund of about 80 bucks from them. I bought mine a little over 3 weeks ago, and was still covered by there price match policy...Just made it though :)

Guess what also, the S1 is going for $499 at the same store, so this brings an interesting point alot of people here are making. What will the average consumer buy more of ??? Hell they'll would probably buy a cheap Kodak :) :)

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Ron
Canon Powershot G5
 
The S1 does a good job. I had the camera on a tripod and took a quick video of a friend. I haven't tried looking at the video in-camera, but, playing with the AVI file at home showed me what I was looking for.

I'm thinking things would be improved if I got the wide angle lens attachment so that I can be a bit closer. The wireless remote might also come in handy if I'm alone.

The next thing I need to look at is to see if any of those non-linear editing software packages (e.g., Ulead's Movie Factory; Pinnacle's Studio; etc.) let's me superimpose lines on the image so that I can see if my weight shift, head movement, etc. are correct.
  • Marcos
Personally I like the G3 a little more than I like the G5 since I
didn't think the G5 was innovative enough over the G3 --- I was
disappointed.

In my situation, my roommate owns a G3 and good friend bought a G5.
That G5 was my friend's first digicam and I had to help me figure
out how to use it. He did grow into it, but, lamented the lack of
a powerful zoom.

The S1 IS is a great camera for its size. I wouldn't want a 5
megapixel S1 IS if the noise level was to sky rocket higher than it
already is with the S1. The S1 isn't a good deal if it listed
higher than $500 with an online price of $430 or so. Any higher
and you are looking at G5 or Sony V1 class cameras with hot shoe.

The S1's movie mode is surprisingly very good. It's perfect for
those of us who don't want to lug a DV camcorder around, but, want
the option of a few quick video clips. I'm using mine to capture
golf swings at the driving range for analysis.
  • Marcos
Speaking of golf swings, how well does the s1 capture it? That's
what I want to do with the s1 once I get it.
 

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